Search Results: "krooger"

13 May 2006

Aigars Mahinovs: Debconf6 days -2 and -1: Internet or Inter-Net?

There have been not too many exiting events in the real life here in Oaxtepec, Mexico. The main reason for that is the return of the drug of choice around here - the Internet. In order not to overwhelm people that were withdrawn from the cruel drug for several days, the first day the service was a bit shaky - we only got Internet from noon until 16:00 and then some more later in the evening. In the evening there was a bit of a storm around here and after that I noticed that could not get wireless in the hotel anymore and also noticed that the AP on the roof of the hotel has moved, so I figured that it must have been blown by the wind into the wall and does not work because of that which I promptly reported to Ganneff. So we went to check that out by walking the roofs of the resorts walkways. The view is really much nicer from up there and the amount of cables that the organizers had to put up to get some connectivity around here is astonishing - more then 1.7 kilometers of CAT5 cable has been used so far and a lot of wireless hotspots were installed in waterproof containers on roofs. On the day -1 the bags were ready and started to be distributed. It was really useful, for example I found out that I should have changed my room two days ago and that I am changing it again today. One hour with Marga at the registry fixed that problem. In other news we had: stable Internet, romantic hacking, impossibly small notebooks and taped switches. A really crazy game of Mao ensued late in the evening - there were more then 20 discard piles at the same time! We also had several newcomers to the game and it was fun even if they were a bit unobservant (in the beginning). Major part of people started arriving this evening, including a person from Intel and Ted The Krooger. Fun should start tomorrow with the Debian Day.

21 March 2006

Riku Voipio: krooger effect

Umm no. The krooger effect is that every time krooger appears MJ. Ray and some other people start defending jonathan/ted walther regardless of what loony things he has done in past. Somehow absolutely obvious things like "You get banned from women-targeted mailing list for sending sexists mails" get turned upside down into "poor krooger is a victim of religious discrimination".

[ 7 ] Choice 6: Jonathan aka Ted Walther
[ 6 ] Choice 8: None Of The Above

Make sure your ballot includes it. It's not religious discrimination, and it's not again universal human rights declarations vote that someone is just not fit as our DPL.

Even those who rank Ted Walther low should admit that he asked some of the trickiest questions in part III and mixed it up a bit.

"Mixing up issues" is about the last quality a DPL should have. His questions where not hard, but irrelevant. Most Debian Developers couldn't care less about arguing in the internet about Tax registrations or religious discrimination on IRC.

MJ Ray: The DPL Debate 2006: The krooger effect

While discussing the debate with another DD, I noticed something interesting. While Ted Walther goes in too hard and too heavy in part III of the debate (lines 600 on in the log), two of his targets demand evidence rather than answer his questions. One example was Jeroen van Wolffelaar responding to Ted Walther's questions like "do you think that trying to kick people out of the project because you don't like their religious views is something to sweep under the carpet?" with the answer "can you prove one quote where I'm discriminating based on religion?" Why do that? It's usual to ask for evidence when one is undecided, but how could he be undecided about whether he discriminates based on religion? Why not reject that suggestion too? Some will assume the target(s) are avoiding or ignoring the question because they're undecided whether they need to confess yet, but don't want to lie. However, I decided I think Jeroen is ignorant or careless, rather than bigoted. At least he gave some answer, unlike several others. The other notable evader IMO was Steve McIntyre about debian commercial activity and DUS's tax registration (presumably based on the -project and/or -uk list traffic from the last year) but I'm a bit too close to that for it to change my vote. Even those who rank Ted Walther low should admit that he asked some of the trickiest questions in part III and mixed it up a bit.

19 March 2006

Clint Adams: This report is flawed, but it sure is fun

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Erich Schubert: DPL elections

This year was the first time I think I watched the debate live, and didn't just read the logs. We had some fun in the discussion channel, and one question of mine was actually posted to the candidates. Unfortunately, I didn't manage to get my point across (the "size barrier" question, it wasn't about Debian not growing any more, but about wether we could need some structural changes - e.g. bugmasters, first-level supporters with some privileges, but not the full DD requirements - to use our resources (that is mostly the time of our developers, i.e. us) more effectively. E.g. by preventing flamewars somehow. I hadn't really made up my mind yet. But some trends are there:

10 March 2006

Aigars Mahinovs: Interview with Ted Walther (Was: KROOGER SPEAKS!!!)

For the second year in a row Ted Walther (formerly known as Jonathan Walther) runs as a candidate in Debian Project Leader (DPL) elections. Last year "None of the above" got more voter support then Ted. Inside the Debian project he is used as a poster boy for chauvinistic, racist and rude behavior on a mailing list and for causing a few huge flame-wars in years 2003 and 2004. Ted claims that his behavior was misunderstood and that he has learned from those events. After getting a very sane and reasonable impression from Ted's this years platform I was surprised when I was reminded that he is in fact still the same Jonathan (now Ted) Walther we all know from those times. Fascinated by this discrepancy I decided to make a one-to-one interview with Ted to clarify. The interview follows after the break. Ted's replies are indented. (4848 more words in the post)
Continue reading ...

28 February 2006

MJ Ray: How I read the DPL 2006 platforms

Bill Allombert
  • Lars Wirzenius had denominated himself
  • fully volunteer project implications
  • some rules for better communications
  • mediate
  • consider the distribution globally
  • "assistant" projects, Debian-specific projects
  • neutral observers
Jonathan (Ted) Walther
  • unpopular
  • GIANT ROBOTS sex JET PACKS sex CITIES ON THE MOON sex SPACE COLONIES sex FLYING CARS beer
  • Most of us are disfunctional in various ways
  • if a person tries to get another person kicked out of the Debian project, and they fail, they themselves will be kicked out. wiki
  • developers who didn't go through NM to go through it within the next year. From that point on, every developer would be required to renew their membership every three years, similar to drivers licenses [MJR: not English driving licences, it's not]
  • honor James Troup
Andreas Schuldei
  • not found on this server
Anthony Towns
  • a leadership hat
  • increasing its tempo
  • DPL and others actively and visibly recruit people on an ongoing basis
  • raise topics for discussion, and help guide them through
  • Gratuitous Song Parody
  • [seems to see the arbitrary expulsion and ban procedures as good developments?]
  • [title claims to be Ari Pollak's platform :) This is a good thing, will win votes.]
Steve McIntyre
  • [officer of the trader called "Debian-UK"]
  • regular status updates
  • agree a Debian code of conduct
  • more NM training can/should happen more within teams
  • more open discussion will happen naturally
  • Professionalism [(!) why not think of the children, too?]
  • detect [MIA] more quickly and more easily
Ari Pollak
  • half-joke candidate
  • half-DPL
  • Team Ari: Debian Police
  • who needs such complicated licenses, anyway?
Jeroen van Wolffelaar
  • DPL team
  • adoption of a code of conduct
  • insider reports
  • more use of the official wiki
  • Increase transparency of infrastructure teams
  • mediator/ombudsman ... team like the tech-ctte
  • actively approach the press
The above are in the reverse of the vote page order, in case you were wondering. I've not worked out my preference yet. Let's see what happens.