• did some clerical work for the DebConf videoteam
• tried to book a plane ticket for DC24
• triaged #1067620 (dependency problem with whipper)
• closed #1067121 (flaky test in supysonic)
• closed #1065514 (qpdfview crossbuilding)

• organized his custom Application Manager stuff in a private repo
• did some coding for the New Maintainers website to make sure applicants agree with the Debian Code of Conduct alongside the SC/DFSG/DMUP
• closed #1057910 (new apticron upload)

• planned & brainstormed for the upcoming Debian usability tests
• mentored a student/new contributor (justin)
• babysat a future contributor!
• closed #1067649
• learnt about fabre.debian.net & element.debian.social (thanks, pollo!)

• uploaded puppet-strings 4.1.2-1 to unstable
• updated various services in personal infra
• cleaned vagrant-hostmanager and worked on packaging the new upstream release (1.8.10)
• extended GPG key expiry
• looked at options for a new backup machine

• updated puppetdb to 8.4.1

• opened #1068152 after a misfortune with #1068151
• created new contributor accounts (salsa & wiki)

SSO Authentication for jitsi.debian.social, by Stefano Rivera Debian.social s jitsi instance has been getting some abuse by (non-Debian) people sharing sexually explicit content on the service. After playing whack-a-mole with this for a month, and shutting the instance off for another month, we opened it up again and the abuse immediately re-started. Stefano sat down and wrote an SSO Implementation that hooks into Jitsi s existing JWT SSO support. This requires everyone using jitsi.debian.social to have a Salsa account. With only a little bit of effort, we could change this in future, to only require an account to open a room, and allow guests to join the call.

/usr-move, by Helmut Grohne The biggest task this month was sending mitigation patches for all of the /usr-move issues arising from package renames due to the 2038 transition. As a result, we can now say that every affected package in unstable can either be converted with dh-sequence-movetousr or has an open bug report. The package set relevant to debootstrap except for the set that has to be uploaded concurrently has been moved to /usr and is awaiting migration. The move of coreutils happened to affect piuparts which hard codes the location of /bin/sync and received multiple updates as a result.

Miscellaneous contributions

• Stefano Rivera uploaded a stable release update to python3.11 for bookworm, fixing a use-after-free crash.
• Stefano uploaded a new version of python-html2text, and updated python3-defaults to build with it.
• In support of Python 3.12, Stefano dropped distutils as a Build-Dependency from a few packages, and uploaded a complex set of patches to python-mitogen.
• Stefano landed some merge requests to clean up dead code in dh-python, removed the flit plugin, and uploaded it.
• Stefano uploaded new upstream versions of twisted, hatchling, python-flexmock, python-authlib, python mitogen, python-pipx, and xonsh.
• Stefano requested removal of a few packages supporting the Opsis HDMI2USB hardware that DebConf Video team used to use for HDMI capture, as they are not being maintained upstream. They started to FTBFS, with recent sdcc changes.
• DebConf 24 is getting ready to open registration, Stefano spent some time fixing bugs in the website, caused by infrastructure updates.
• Stefano reviewed all the DebConf 23 travel reimbursements, filing requests for more information from SPI where our records mismatched.
• Stefano spun up a Wafer website for the Berlin 2024 mini DebConf.
• Roberto C. S nchez worked on facilitating the transfer of upstream maintenance responsibility for the dormant Shorewall project to a new team led by the current maintainer of the Shorewall packages in Debian.
• Colin Watson fixed build failures in celery-haystack-ng, db1-compat, jsonpickle, libsdl-perl, kali, knews, openssh-ssh1, python-json-log-formatter, python-typing-extensions, trn4, vigor, and wcwidth. Some of these were related to the 64-bit time_t transition, since that involved enabling -Werror=implicit-function-declaration.
• Colin fixed an off-by-one error in neovim, which was already causing a build failure in Ubuntu and would eventually have caused a build failure in Debian with stricter toolchain settings.
• Colin added an sshd@.service template to openssh to help newer systemd versions make containers and VMs SSH-accessible over AF_VSOCK sockets.
• Following the xz-utils backdoor, Colin spent some time testing and discussing OpenSSH upstream s proposed inline systemd notification patch, since the current implementation via libsystemd was part of the attack vector used by that backdoor.
• Utkarsh reviewed and sponsored some Go packages for Lena Voytek and Rajudev.
• Utkarsh also helped Mitchell Dzurick with the adoption of pyparted package.
• Helmut sent 10 patches for cross build failures.
• Helmut partially fixed architecture cross bootstrap tooling to deal with changes in linux-libc-dev and the recent gcc-for-host changes and also fixed a 64bit-time_t FTBFS in libtextwrap.
• Thorsten Alteholz uploaded several packages from debian-printing: cjet, lprng, rlpr and epson-inkjet-printer-escpr were affected by the newly enabled compiler switch -Werror=implicit-function-declaration. Besides fixing these serious bugs, Thorsten also worked on other bugs and could fix one or the other.
• Carles updated simplemonitor and python-ring-doorbell packages with new upstream versions.
• Santiago is still working on the Salsa CI MRs to adapt the build jobs so they can rely on sbuild. Current work includes adapting the images used by the build job, implementing the basic sbuild support the related jobs, and adjusting the support for experimental and *-backports releases..
  Additionally, Santiago reviewed some MR such as Make timeout action explicit in the logs and the subsequent Implement conditional timeout verbosity, and the batch of MRs included in https://salsa.debian.org/salsa-ci-team/pipeline/-/merge_requests/482.
• Santiago also reviewed applications for the improving Salsa CI in Debian GSoC 2024 project. We received applications from four very talented candidates. The selection process is currently ongoing. A huge thanks to all of them!
• As part of the DebConf 24 organization, Santiago has taken part in the Content team discussions.

Assumptions I didn t want to build a general purpose RF simulator, anything particularly generic, or something that would solve for any more than the things right in front of me. To do this as simply (and quickly all this code took about a day to write, including the beamforming math) I had to reduce the amount of work in front of me. Given that I was concerend with visualizing what the antenna pattern would look like in 3-D given some antenna geometry, operating frequency and configured beam, I made the following assumptions: All anetnnas are perfectly isotropic they receive a signal that is exactly the same strength no matter what direction the signal originates from. There s a single point-source isotropic emitter in the far-field (I modeled this as being 1 million meters away 1000 kilometers) of the antenna system. There is no noise, multipath, loss or distortion in the signal as it travels through space. Antennas will never interfere with each other.

2-D Polar Plots The last time I wrote something like this, I generated 2-D GIFs which show a radiation pattern, not unlike the polar plots you d see on a microphone. These are handy because it lets you visualize what the directionality of the antenna looks like, as well as in what direction emissions are captured, and in what directions emissions are nulled out. You can see these plots on spec sheets for antennas in both 2-D and 3-D form. Now, let s port the 2-D approach to 3-D and see how well it works out.

Writing the 3-D simulator As an EM wave travels through free space, the place at which you sample the wave controls that phase you observe at each time-step. This means, assuming perfectly synchronized clocks, a transmitter and receiver exactly one RF wavelength apart will observe a signal in-phase, but a transmitter and receiver a half wavelength apart will observe a signal 180 degrees out of phase. This means that if we take the distance between our point-source and antenna element, divide it by the wavelength, we can use the fractional part of the resulting number to determine the phase observed. If we multiply that number (in the range of 0 to just under 1) by tau, we can generate a complex number by taking the cos and sin of the multiplied phase (in the range of 0 to tau), assuming the transmitter is emitting a carrier wave at a static amplitude and all clocks are in perfect sync.

 let observed_phases: Vec<Complex> = antennas
.iter()
.map( antenna   
let distance = (antenna - tx).magnitude();
let distance = distance - (distance as i64 as f64);
((distance / wavelength) * TAU)
 )
.map( phase  Complex(phase.cos(), phase.sin()))
.collect();

At this point, given some synthetic transmission point and each antenna, we know what the expected complex sample would be at each antenna. At this point, we can adjust the phase of each antenna according to the beamforming phase offset configuration, and add up every sample in order to determine what the entire system would collectively produce a sample as.

 let beamformed_phases: Vec<Complex> = ...;
let magnitude = beamformed_phases
.iter()
.zip(observed_phases.iter())
.map( (beamformed, observed)  observed * beamformed)
.reduce( acc, el  acc + el)
.unwrap()
.abs();

Armed with this information, it s straight forward to generate some number of (Azimuth, Elevation) points to sample, generate a transmission point far away in that direction, resolve what the resulting Complex sample would be, take its magnitude, and use that to create an (x, y, z) point at (azimuth, elevation, magnitude). The color attached two that point is based on its distance from (0, 0, 0). I opted to use the Life Aquatic table for this one. After this process is complete, I have a point cloud of ((x, y, z), (r, g, b)) points. I wrote a small program using kiss3d to render point cloud using tons of small spheres, and write out the frames to a set of PNGs, which get compiled into a GIF. Now for the fun part, let s take a look at some radiation patterns!

1x4 Phased Array The first configuration is a phased array where all the elements are in perfect alignment on the y and z axis, and separated by some offset in the x axis. This configuration can sweep 180 degrees (not the full 360), but can t be steared in elevation at all. Let s take a look at what this looks like for a well constructed 1x4 phased array: And now let s take a look at the renders as we play with the configuration of this array and make sure things look right. Our initial quarter-wavelength spacing is very effective and has some outstanding performance characteristics. Let s check to see that everything looks right as a first test. Nice. Looks perfect. When pointing forward at (0, 0), we d expect to see a torus, which we do. As we sweep between 0 and 360, astute observers will notice the pattern is mirrored along the axis of the antennas, when the beam is facing forward to 0 degrees, it ll also receive at 180 degrees just as strong. There s a small sidelobe that forms when it s configured along the array, but it also becomes the most directional, and the sidelobes remain fairly small.

Long compared to the wavelength (1 ) Let s try again, but rather than spacing each antenna of a wavelength apart, let s see about spacing each antenna 1 of a wavelength apart instead. The main lobe is a lot more narrow (not a bad thing!), but some significant sidelobes have formed (not ideal). This can cause a lot of confusion when doing things that require a lot of directional resolution unless they re compensated for.

Going from ( to 5 ) The last model begs the question - what do things look like when you separate the antennas from each other but without moving the beam? Let s simulate moving our antennas but not adjusting the configured beam or operating frequency. Very cool. As the spacing becomes longer in relation to the operating frequency, we can see the sidelobes start to form out of the end of the antenna system.

2x2 Phased Array The second configuration I want to try is a phased array where the elements are in perfect alignment on the z axis, and separated by a fixed offset in either the x or y axis by their neighbor, forming a square when viewed along the x/y axis. Let s take a look at what this looks like for a well constructed 2x2 phased array: Let s do the same as above and take a look at the renders as we play with the configuration of this array and see what things look like. This configuration should suppress the sidelobes and give us good performance, and even give us some amount of control in elevation while we re at it. Sweet. Heck yeah. The array is quite directional in the configured direction, and can even sweep a little bit in elevation, a definite improvement from the 1x4 above.

Long compared to the wavelength (1 ) Let s do the same thing as the 1x4 and take a look at what happens when the distance between elements is long compared to the frequency of operation say, 1 of a wavelength apart? What happens to the sidelobes given this spacing when the frequency of operation is much different than the physical geometry? Mesmerising. This is my favorate render. The sidelobes are very fun to watch come in and out of existence. It looks absolutely other-worldly.

Going from ( to 5 ) Finally, for completeness' sake, what do things look like when you separate the antennas from each other just as we did with the 1x4? Let s simulate moving our antennas but not adjusting the configured beam or operating frequency. Very very cool. The sidelobes wind up turning the very blobby cardioid into an electromagnetic dog toy. I think we ve proven to ourselves that using a phased array much outside its designed frequency of operation seems like a real bad idea.

Future Work Now that I have a system to test things out, I m a bit more confident that my beamforming code is close to right! I d love to push that code over the line and blog about it, since it s a really interesting topic on its own. Once I m sure the code involved isn t full of lies, I ll put it up on the hztools org, and post about it here and on mastodon.

Pre-Debugging Steps: Before diving into an issue, it s crucial to perform two essential steps: 1) Check the latest changes: Ensure you re working with the latest AMD driver modifications located in the amd-staging-drm-next branch maintained by Alex Deucher. You may also find bug fixes for newer kernel versions on branches that have the name pattern drm-fixes-<date>. 2) Examine the issue tracker: Confirm that your issue isn t already documented and addressed in the AMD display driver issue tracker. If you find a similar issue, you can team up with others and speed up the debugging process.

Understanding the issue: Do you really need to change this? Where should you start looking for changes? 3) Is the issue in the AMD kernel driver or in the userspace?: Identifying the source of the issue is essential regardless of the GPU vendor. Sometimes this can be challenging so here are some helpful tips:

• Record the screen: Capture the screen using a recording app while experiencing the issue. If the bug appears in the capture, it s likely a userspace issue, not the kernel display driver.
• Analyze the dmesg log: Look for error messages related to the display driver in the dmesg log. If the error message appears before the message [drm] Display Core v... , it s not likely a display driver issue. If this message doesn t appear in your log, the display driver wasn t fully loaded and you will see a notification that something went wrong here.

4) AMD Display Manager vs. AMD Display Core: The AMD display driver consists of two components:

• Display Manager (DM): This component interacts directly with the Linux DRM infrastructure. Occasionally, issues can arise from misinterpretations of DRM properties or features. If the issue doesn t occur on other platforms with the same AMD hardware - for example, only happens on Linux but not on Windows - it s more likely related to the AMD DM code.
• Display Core (DC): This is the platform-agnostic part responsible for setting and programming hardware features. Modifications to the DC usually require validation on other platforms, like Windows, to avoid regressions.

5) Identify the DC HW family: Each AMD GPU has variations in its hardware architecture. Features and helpers differ between families, so determining the relevant code for your specific hardware is crucial.

• Find GPU product information in Linux/AMD GPU documentation
• Check the dmesg log for the Display Core version (since this commit in Linux kernel 6.3v). For example:
  • [drm] Display Core v3.2.241 initialized on DCN 2.1
  • [drm] Display Core v3.2.237 initialized on DCN 3.0.1

Investigating the relevant driver code: Keep from letting unrelated driver code to affect your investigation. 6) Narrow the code inspection down to one DC HW family: the relevant code resides in a directory named after the DC number. For example, the DCN 3.0.1 driver code is located at drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/dc/dcn301. We all know that the AMD s shared code is huge and you can use these boundaries to rule out codes unrelated to your issue. 7) Newer families may inherit code from older ones: you can find dcn301 using code from dcn30, dcn20, dcn10 files. It s crucial to verify which hooks and helpers your driver utilizes to investigate the right portion. You can leverage ftrace for supplemental validation. To give an example, it was useful when I was updating DCN3 color mapping to correctly use their new post-blending color capabilities, such as:

• [PATCH] drm/amd/display: set stream gamut remap matrix to MPC for DCN3+

Additionally, you can use two different HW families to compare behaviours. If you see the issue in one but not in the other, you can compare the code and understand what has changed and if the implementation from a previous family doesn t fit well the new HW resources or design. You can also count on the help of the community on the Linux AMD issue tracker to validate your code on other hardware and/or systems. This approach helped me debug a 2-year-old issue where the cursor gamma adjustment was incorrect in DCN3 hardware, but working correctly for DCN2 family. I solved the issue in two steps, thanks for community feedback and validation:

• [PATCH] drm/amd/display: check attr flag before set cursor degamma on DCN3+
• [PATCH] drm/amd/display: enable cursor degamma for DCN3+ DRM legacy gamma

8) Check the hardware capability screening in the driver: You can currently find a list of display hardware capabilities in the drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/dc/dcn*/dcn*_resource.c file. More precisely in the dcn*_resource_construct() function. Using DCN301 for illustration, here is the list of its hardware caps:

	/*************************************************
	 *  Resource + asic cap harcoding                *
	 *************************************************/
	pool->base.underlay_pipe_index = NO_UNDERLAY_PIPE;
	pool->base.pipe_count = pool->base.res_cap->num_timing_generator;
	pool->base.mpcc_count = pool->base.res_cap->num_timing_generator;
	dc->caps.max_downscale_ratio = 600;
	dc->caps.i2c_speed_in_khz = 100;
	dc->caps.i2c_speed_in_khz_hdcp = 5; /*1.4 w/a enabled by default*/
	dc->caps.max_cursor_size = 256;
	dc->caps.min_horizontal_blanking_period = 80;
	dc->caps.dmdata_alloc_size = 2048;
	dc->caps.max_slave_planes = 2;
	dc->caps.max_slave_yuv_planes = 2;
	dc->caps.max_slave_rgb_planes = 2;
	dc->caps.is_apu = true;
	dc->caps.post_blend_color_processing = true;
	dc->caps.force_dp_tps4_for_cp2520 = true;
	dc->caps.extended_aux_timeout_support = true;
	dc->caps.dmcub_support = true;
	/* Color pipeline capabilities */
	dc->caps.color.dpp.dcn_arch = 1;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.input_lut_shared = 0;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.icsc = 1;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.dgam_ram = 0; // must use gamma_corr
	dc->caps.color.dpp.dgam_rom_caps.srgb = 1;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.dgam_rom_caps.bt2020 = 1;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.dgam_rom_caps.gamma2_2 = 1;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.dgam_rom_caps.pq = 1;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.dgam_rom_caps.hlg = 1;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.post_csc = 1;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.gamma_corr = 1;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.dgam_rom_for_yuv = 0;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.hw_3d_lut = 1;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.ogam_ram = 1;
	// no OGAM ROM on DCN301
	dc->caps.color.dpp.ogam_rom_caps.srgb = 0;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.ogam_rom_caps.bt2020 = 0;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.ogam_rom_caps.gamma2_2 = 0;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.ogam_rom_caps.pq = 0;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.ogam_rom_caps.hlg = 0;
	dc->caps.color.dpp.ocsc = 0;
	dc->caps.color.mpc.gamut_remap = 1;
	dc->caps.color.mpc.num_3dluts = pool->base.res_cap->num_mpc_3dlut; //2
	dc->caps.color.mpc.ogam_ram = 1;
	dc->caps.color.mpc.ogam_rom_caps.srgb = 0;
	dc->caps.color.mpc.ogam_rom_caps.bt2020 = 0;
	dc->caps.color.mpc.ogam_rom_caps.gamma2_2 = 0;
	dc->caps.color.mpc.ogam_rom_caps.pq = 0;
	dc->caps.color.mpc.ogam_rom_caps.hlg = 0;
	dc->caps.color.mpc.ocsc = 1;
	dc->caps.dp_hdmi21_pcon_support = true;
	/* read VBIOS LTTPR caps */
	if (ctx->dc_bios->funcs->get_lttpr_caps)  
		enum bp_result bp_query_result;
		uint8_t is_vbios_lttpr_enable = 0;
		bp_query_result = ctx->dc_bios->funcs->get_lttpr_caps(ctx->dc_bios, &is_vbios_lttpr_enable);
		dc->caps.vbios_lttpr_enable = (bp_query_result == BP_RESULT_OK) && !!is_vbios_lttpr_enable;
	 
	if (ctx->dc_bios->funcs->get_lttpr_interop)  
		enum bp_result bp_query_result;
		uint8_t is_vbios_interop_enabled = 0;
		bp_query_result = ctx->dc_bios->funcs->get_lttpr_interop(ctx->dc_bios, &is_vbios_interop_enabled);
		dc->caps.vbios_lttpr_aware = (bp_query_result == BP_RESULT_OK) && !!is_vbios_interop_enabled;
	 

Keep in mind that the documentation of color capabilities are available at the Linux kernel Documentation.

Understanding the development history: What has brought us to the current state? 9) Pinpoint relevant commits: Use git log and git blame to identify commits targeting the code section you re interested in. 10) Track regressions: If you re examining the amd-staging-drm-next branch, check for regressions between DC release versions. These are defined by DC_VER in the drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/dc/dc.h file. Alternatively, find a commit with this format drm/amd/display: 3.2.221 that determines a display release. It s useful for bisecting. This information helps you understand how outdated your branch is and identify potential regressions. You can consider each DC_VER takes around one week to be bumped. Finally, check testing log of each release in the report provided on the amd-gfx mailing list, such as this one Tested-by: Daniel Wheeler:

• RE: [PATCH 00/13] DC Patches for Dec 11, 2023

Reducing the inspection area: Focus on what really matters. 11) Identify involved HW blocks: This helps isolate the issue. You can find more information about DCN HW blocks in the DCN Overview documentation. In summary:

• Plane issues are closer to HUBP and DPP.
• Blending/Stream issues are closer to MPC, OPP and OPTC. They are related to DRM CRTC subjects.

This information was useful when debugging a hardware rotation issue where the cursor plane got clipped off in the middle of the screen. Finally, the issue was addressed by two patches:

• [PATCH 21/22] drm/amd/display: Fix rotated cursor offset calculation
• [PATCH] drm/amd/display: fix cursor offset on rotation 180

12) Issues around bandwidth (glitches) and clocks: May be affected by calculations done in these HW blocks and HW specific values. The recalculation equations are found in the DML folder. DML stands for Display Mode Library. It s in charge of all required configuration parameters supported by the hardware for multiple scenarios. See more in the AMD DC Overview kernel docs. It s a math library that optimally configures hardware to find the best balance between power efficiency and performance in a given scenario. Finding some clk variables that affect device behavior may be a sign of it. It s hard for a external developer to debug this part, since it involves information from HW specs and firmware programming that we don t have access. The best option is to provide all relevant debugging information you have and ask AMD developers to check the values from your suspicions.

• Do a trick: If you suspect the power setup is degrading performance, try setting the amount of power supplied to the GPU to the maximum and see if it affects the system behavior with this command: sudo bash -c "echo high > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_dpm_force_performance_level"

I learned it when debugging glitches with hardware cursor rotation on Steam Deck. My first attempt was changing the clock calculation. In the end, Rodrigo Siqueira proposed the right solution targeting bandwidth in two steps:

• Patch series to create a new internal commit sequence
• Enabling pipe split on DCN301

Checking implicit programming and hardware limitations: Bring implicit programming to the level of consciousness and recognize hardware limitations. 13) Implicit update types: Check if the selected type for atomic update may affect your issue. The update type depends on the mode settings, since programming some modes demands more time for hardware processing. More details in the source code:

/* Surface update type is used by dc_update_surfaces_and_stream
 * The update type is determined at the very beginning of the function based
 * on parameters passed in and decides how much programming (or updating) is
 * going to be done during the call.
 *
 * UPDATE_TYPE_FAST is used for really fast updates that do not require much
 * logical calculations or hardware register programming. This update MUST be
 * ISR safe on windows. Currently fast update will only be used to flip surface
 * address.
 *
 * UPDATE_TYPE_MED is used for slower updates which require significant hw
 * re-programming however do not affect bandwidth consumption or clock
 * requirements. At present, this is the level at which front end updates
 * that do not require us to run bw_calcs happen. These are in/out transfer func
 * updates, viewport offset changes, recout size changes and pixel
depth changes.
 * This update can be done at ISR, but we want to minimize how often
this happens.
 *
 * UPDATE_TYPE_FULL is slow. Really slow. This requires us to recalculate our
 * bandwidth and clocks, possibly rearrange some pipes and reprogram
anything front
 * end related. Any time viewport dimensions, recout dimensions,
scaling ratios or
 * gamma need to be adjusted or pipe needs to be turned on (or
disconnected) we do
 * a full update. This cannot be done at ISR level and should be a rare event.
 * Unless someone is stress testing mpo enter/exit, playing with
colour or adjusting
 * underscan we don't expect to see this call at all.
 */
enum surface_update_type  
UPDATE_TYPE_FAST, /* super fast, safe to execute in isr */
UPDATE_TYPE_MED,  /* ISR safe, most of programming needed, no bw/clk change*/
UPDATE_TYPE_FULL, /* may need to shuffle resources */
 ;

Using tools: Observe the current state, validate your findings, continue improvements. 14) Use AMD tools to check hardware state and driver programming: help on understanding your driver settings and checking the behavior when changing those settings.

• DC Visual confirmation: Check multiple planes and pipe split policy.
• DTN logs: Check display hardware state, including rotation, size, format, underflow, blocks in use, color block values, etc.
• UMR: Check ASIC info, register values, KMS state - links and elements (framebuffers, planes, CRTCs, connectors). Source: UMR project documentation

15) Use generic DRM/KMS tools:

• IGT test tools: Use generic KMS tests or develop your own to isolate the issue in the kernel space. Compare results across different GPU vendors to understand their implementations and find potential solutions. Here AMD also has specific IGT tests for its GPUs that is expect to work without failures on any AMD GPU. You can check results of HW-specific tests using different display hardware families or you can compare expected differences between the generic workflow and AMD workflow.
• drm_info: This tool summarizes the current state of a display driver (capabilities, properties and formats) per element of the DRM/KMS workflow. Output can be helpful when reporting bugs.

Don t give up! Debugging issues in the AMD display driver can be challenging, but by following these tips and leveraging available resources, you can significantly improve your chances of success. Worth mentioning: This blog post builds upon my talk, I m not an AMD expert, but presented at the 2022 XDC. It shares guidelines that helped me debug AMD display issues as an external developer of the driver. Open Source Display Driver: The Linux kernel/AMD display driver is open source, allowing you to actively contribute by addressing issues listed in the official tracker. Tackling existing issues or resolving your own can be a rewarding learning experience and a valuable contribution to the community. Additionally, the tracker serves as a valuable resource for finding similar bugs, troubleshooting tips, and suggestions from AMD developers. Finally, it s a platform for seeking help when needed. Remember, contributing to the open source community through issue resolution and collaboration is mutually beneficial for everyone involved.

• A server with docker-compose installed
• An existing setup of nginx reverse proxy
• A domain name pointing to your server.

Step 1 : The docker-compose file for nextcloud AIOThe original compose.yml file is present in nextcloud AIO&aposs git repo here . By taking a reference of that file, we have own compose.yml here.

services:
  nextcloud-aio-mastercontainer:
    image: nextcloud/all-in-one:latest
    init: true
    restart: always
    container_name: nextcloud-aio-mastercontainer # This line is not allowed to be changed as otherwise AIO will not work correctly
    volumes:
      - nextcloud_aio_mastercontainer:/mnt/docker-aio-config # This line is not allowed to be changed as otherwise the built-in backup solution will not work
      - /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock:ro # May be changed on macOS, Windows or docker rootless. See the applicable documentation. If adjusting, don&apost forget to also set &aposWATCHTOWER_DOCKER_SOCKET_PATH&apos!
    ports:
      - 8080:8080
    environment: # Is needed when using any of the options below
      # - AIO_DISABLE_BACKUP_SECTION=false # Setting this to true allows to hide the backup section in the AIO interface. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-disable-the-backup-section
      - APACHE_PORT=32323 # Is needed when running behind a web server or reverse proxy (like Apache, Nginx, Cloudflare Tunnel and else). See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one/blob/main/reverse-proxy.md
      - APACHE_IP_BINDING=127.0.0.1 # Should be set when running behind a web server or reverse proxy (like Apache, Nginx, Cloudflare Tunnel and else) that is running on the same host. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one/blob/main/reverse-proxy.md
      # - BORG_RETENTION_POLICY=--keep-within=7d --keep-weekly=4 --keep-monthly=6 # Allows to adjust borgs retention policy. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-adjust-borgs-retention-policy
      # - COLLABORA_SECCOMP_DISABLED=false # Setting this to true allows to disable Collabora&aposs Seccomp feature. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-disable-collaboras-seccomp-feature
      - NEXTCLOUD_DATADIR=/opt/docker/cloud.raju.dev/nextcloud # Allows to set the host directory for Nextcloud&aposs datadir.   Warning: do not set or adjust this value after the initial Nextcloud installation is done! See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-change-the-default-location-of-nextclouds-datadir
      # - NEXTCLOUD_MOUNT=/mnt/ # Allows the Nextcloud container to access the chosen directory on the host. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-allow-the-nextcloud-container-to-access-directories-on-the-host
      # - NEXTCLOUD_UPLOAD_LIMIT=10G # Can be adjusted if you need more. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-adjust-the-upload-limit-for-nextcloud
      # - NEXTCLOUD_MAX_TIME=3600 # Can be adjusted if you need more. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-adjust-the-max-execution-time-for-nextcloud
      # - NEXTCLOUD_MEMORY_LIMIT=512M # Can be adjusted if you need more. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-adjust-the-php-memory-limit-for-nextcloud
      # - NEXTCLOUD_TRUSTED_CACERTS_DIR=/path/to/my/cacerts # CA certificates in this directory will be trusted by the OS of the nexcloud container (Useful e.g. for LDAPS) See See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-trust-user-defined-certification-authorities-ca
      # - NEXTCLOUD_STARTUP_APPS=deck twofactor_totp tasks calendar contacts notes # Allows to modify the Nextcloud apps that are installed on starting AIO the first time. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-change-the-nextcloud-apps-that-are-installed-on-the-first-startup
      # - NEXTCLOUD_ADDITIONAL_APKS=imagemagick # This allows to add additional packages to the Nextcloud container permanently. Default is imagemagick but can be overwritten by modifying this value. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-add-os-packages-permanently-to-the-nextcloud-container
      # - NEXTCLOUD_ADDITIONAL_PHP_EXTENSIONS=imagick # This allows to add additional php extensions to the Nextcloud container permanently. Default is imagick but can be overwritten by modifying this value. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-add-php-extensions-permanently-to-the-nextcloud-container
      # - NEXTCLOUD_ENABLE_DRI_DEVICE=true # This allows to enable the /dev/dri device in the Nextcloud container.   Warning: this only works if the &apos/dev/dri&apos device is present on the host! If it should not exist on your host, don&apost set this to true as otherwise the Nextcloud container will fail to start! See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-enable-hardware-transcoding-for-nextcloud
      # - NEXTCLOUD_KEEP_DISABLED_APPS=false # Setting this to true will keep Nextcloud apps that are disabled in the AIO interface and not uninstall them if they should be installed. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-keep-disabled-apps
      # - TALK_PORT=3478 # This allows to adjust the port that the talk container is using. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-adjust-the-talk-port
      # - WATCHTOWER_DOCKER_SOCKET_PATH=/var/run/docker.sock # Needs to be specified if the docker socket on the host is not located in the default &apos/var/run/docker.sock&apos. Otherwise mastercontainer updates will fail. For macos it needs to be &apos/var/run/docker.sock&apos
    # networks: # Is needed when you want to create the nextcloud-aio network with ipv6-support using this file, see the network config at the bottom of the file
      # - nextcloud-aio # Is needed when you want to create the nextcloud-aio network with ipv6-support using this file, see the network config at the bottom of the file
      # - SKIP_DOMAIN_VALIDATION=true
    # # Uncomment the following line when using SELinux
    # security_opt: ["label:disable"]
volumes: # If you want to store the data on a different drive, see https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-store-the-filesinstallation-on-a-separate-drive
  nextcloud_aio_mastercontainer:
    name: nextcloud_aio_mastercontainer # This line is not allowed to be changed as otherwise the built-in backup solution will not work

I have not removed many of the commented options in the compose file, for a possibility of me using them in the future.If you want a smaller cleaner compose with the extra options, you can refer to

services:
  nextcloud-aio-mastercontainer:
    image: nextcloud/all-in-one:latest
    init: true
    restart: always
    container_name: nextcloud-aio-mastercontainer
    volumes:
      - nextcloud_aio_mastercontainer:/mnt/docker-aio-config
      - /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock:ro
    ports:
      - 8080:8080
    environment:
      - APACHE_PORT=32323
      - APACHE_IP_BINDING=127.0.0.1
      - NEXTCLOUD_DATADIR=/opt/docker/nextcloud
volumes:
  nextcloud_aio_mastercontainer:
    name: nextcloud_aio_mastercontainer

I am using a separate directory to store nextcloud data. As per nextcloud documentation you should be using a separate partition if you want to use this feature, however I did not have that option on my server, so I used a separate directory instead. Also we use a custom port on which nextcloud listens for operations, we have set it up as 32323 above, but you can use any in the permissible port range. The 8080 port is used the setup the AIO management interface. Both 8080 and the APACHE_PORT do not need to be open on the host machine, as we will be using reverse proxy setup with nginx to direct requests. once you have your preferred compose.yml file, you can start the containers using

$ docker-compose -f compose.yml up -d 
Creating network "clouddev_default" with the default driver
Creating volume "nextcloud_aio_mastercontainer" with default driver
Creating nextcloud-aio-mastercontainer ... done

once your container&aposs are running, we can do the nginx setup.

Step 2: Configuring nginx reverse proxy for our domain on host. A reference nginx configuration for nextcloud AIO is given in the nextcloud git repository here . You can modify the configuration file according to your needs and setup. Here is configuration that we are using

map $http_upgrade $connection_upgrade  
    default upgrade;
    &apos&apos close;
 
server  
    listen 80;
    #listen [::]:80;            # comment to disable IPv6
    if ($scheme = "http")  
        return 301 https://$host$request_uri;
     
    listen 443 ssl http2;      # for nginx versions below v1.25.1
    #listen [::]:443 ssl http2; # for nginx versions below v1.25.1 - comment to disable IPv6
    # listen 443 ssl;      # for nginx v1.25.1+
    # listen [::]:443 ssl; # for nginx v1.25.1+ - keep comment to disable IPv6
    # http2 on;                                 # uncomment to enable HTTP/2        - supported on nginx v1.25.1+
    # http3 on;                                 # uncomment to enable HTTP/3 / QUIC - supported on nginx v1.25.0+
    # quic_retry on;                            # uncomment to enable HTTP/3 / QUIC - supported on nginx v1.25.0+
    # add_header Alt-Svc &aposh3=":443"; ma=86400' # uncomment to enable HTTP/3 / QUIC - supported on nginx v1.25.0+
    # listen 443 quic reuseport;       # uncomment to enable HTTP/3 / QUIC - supported on nginx v1.25.0+ - please remove "reuseport" if there is already another quic listener on port 443 with enabled reuseport
    # listen [::]:443 quic reuseport;  # uncomment to enable HTTP/3 / QUIC - supported on nginx v1.25.0+ - please remove "reuseport" if there is already another quic listener on port 443 with enabled reuseport - keep comment to disable IPv6
    server_name cloud.example.com;
    location /  
        proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:32323$request_uri;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Port $server_port;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Scheme $scheme;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Proto $scheme;
        proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr;
        proxy_set_header Accept-Encoding "";
        proxy_set_header Host $host;
    
        client_body_buffer_size 512k;
        proxy_read_timeout 86400s;
        client_max_body_size 0;
        # Websocket
        proxy_http_version 1.1;
        proxy_set_header Upgrade $http_upgrade;
        proxy_set_header Connection $connection_upgrade;
     
    ssl_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/live/cloud.example.com/fullchain.pem; # managed by Certbot
    ssl_certificate_key /etc/letsencrypt/live/cloud.example.com/privkey.pem; # managed by Certbot
    ssl_session_timeout 1d;
    ssl_session_cache shared:MozSSL:10m; # about 40000 sessions
    ssl_session_tickets off;
    ssl_protocols TLSv1.2 TLSv1.3;
    ssl_ciphers ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:DHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305;
    ssl_prefer_server_ciphers on;
    # Optional settings:
    # OCSP stapling
    # ssl_stapling on;
    # ssl_stapling_verify on;
    # ssl_trusted_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/live/<your-nc-domain>/chain.pem;
    # replace with the IP address of your resolver
    # resolver 127.0.0.1; # needed for oscp stapling: e.g. use 94.140.15.15 for adguard / 1.1.1.1 for cloudflared or 8.8.8.8 for google - you can use the same nameserver as listed in your /etc/resolv.conf file
 

Please note that you need to have valid SSL certificates for your domain for this configuration to work. Steps on getting valid SSL certificates for your domain are beyond the scope of this article. You can give a web search on getting SSL certificates with letsencrypt and you will get several resources on that, or may write a blog post on it separately in the future.once your configuration for nginx is done, you can test the nginx configuration using

$ sudo nginx -t 
nginx: the configuration file /etc/nginx/nginx.conf syntax is ok
nginx: configuration file /etc/nginx/nginx.conf test is successful

and then reload nginx with

$ sudo nginx -s reload

Step 3: Setup of Nextcloud AIO from the browser.To setup nextcloud AIO, we need to access it using the web browser on URL of our domain.tld:8080, however we do not want to open the 8080 port publicly to do this, so to complete the setup, here is a neat hack from sahilister

ssh -L 8080:127.0.0.1:8080 username:<server-ip>

you can bind the 8080 port of your server to the 8080 of your localhost using Unix socket forwarding over SSH.The port forwarding only last for the duration of your SSH session, if the SSH session breaks, your port forwarding will to. So, once you have the port forwarded, you can open the nextcloud AIO instance in your web browser at 127.0.0.1:8080

you will get this error because you are trying to access a page on localhost over HTTPS. You can click on advanced and then continue to proceed to the next page. Your data is encrypted over SSH for this session as we are binding the port over SSH. Depending on your choice of browser, the above page might look different.once you have proceeded, the nextcloud AIO interface will open and will look something like this.

nextcloud AIO initial screen with capsicums as password

It will show an auto generated passphrase, you need to save this passphrase and make sure to not loose it. For the purposes of security, I have masked the passwords with capsicums. once you have noted down your password, you can proceed to the Nextcloud AIO login, enter your password and then login. After login you will be greeted with a screen like this.

now you can put the domain that you want to use in the Submit domain field. Once the domain check is done, you will proceed to the next step and see another screen like this

here you can select any optional containers for the features that you might want. IMPORTANT: Please make sure to also change the time zone at the bottom of the page according to the time zone you wish to operate in.

The timezone setup is also important because the data base will get initialized according to the set time zone. This could result in wrong initialization of database and you ending up in a startup loop for nextcloud. I faced this issue and could only resolve it after getting help from sahilister . Once you are done changing the timezone, and selecting any additional features you want, you can click on Download and start the containersIt will take some time for this process to finish, take a break and look at the farthest object in your room and take a sip of water. Once you are done, and the process has finished you will see a page similar to the following one.

wait patiently for everything to turn green.

once all the containers have started properly, you can open the nextcloud login interface on your configured domain, the initial login details are auto generated as you can see from the above screenshot. Again you will see a password that you need to note down or save to enter the nextcloud interface. Capsicums will not work as passwords. I have masked the auto generated passwords using capsicums.Now you can click on Open your Nextcloud button or go to your configured domain to access the login screen.

You can use the login details from the previous step to login to the administrator account of your Nextcloud instance. There you have it, your very own cloud!

Additional Notes:

How to properly reset Nextcloud setup?While following the above steps, or while following steps from some other tutorial, you may have made a mistake, and want to start everything again from scratch. The instructions for it are present in the Nextcloud documentation here . Here is the TLDR for a docker-compose setup. These steps will delete all data, do not use these steps on an existing nextcloud setup unless you know what you are doing.

• Stop your master container.

docker-compose -f compose.yml down -v

The above command will also remove the volume associated with the master container

• Stop all the child containers that has been started by the master container.

docker stop nextcloud-aio-apache nextcloud-aio-notify-push nextcloud-aio-nextcloud nextcloud-aio-imaginary nextcloud-aio-fulltextsearch nextcloud-aio-redis nextcloud-aio-database nextcloud-aio-talk nextcloud-aio-collabora

• Remove all the child containers that has been started by the master container

docker rm nextcloud-aio-apache nextcloud-aio-notify-push nextcloud-aio-nextcloud nextcloud-aio-imaginary nextcloud-aio-fulltextsearch nextcloud-aio-redis nextcloud-aio-database nextcloud-aio-talk nextcloud-aio-collabora

• If you also wish to remove all images associated with nextcloud you can do it with

docker rmi $(docker images --filter "reference=nextcloud/*" -q)

• remove all volumes associated with child containers

docker volume rm <volume-name>

• remove the network associated with nextcloud

docker network rm nextcloud-aio

Additional references.

1. Nextcloud Github
2. Nextcloud reverse proxy documentation
3. Nextcloud Administration Guide
4. Nextcloud User Manual
5. Nextcloud Developer&aposs manual

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• Clone the virtual machine and test the upgrade.
• Create a snapshot beforehand, do an in-place upgrade and hope everything works. If not, revert the snapshot..
• Combine both methods
• Use LVM or filesystem snapshots (snapper, etc)

• Issue an backup-begin statement and freeze the virtual machines file systems during this process (using qemu-agent) so you get an consistent system state.
• Create an qcow2 image with backing image option that points to the created (readonly) NBD export via unix socket as overlay.
• Use the created overlay image to boot up the instance and test the system upgrade.
• Do so while the virtual machine is operating without any downtime.

# virsh list --all
 Id Name State 
 ------------------------------------------ 
 1 debian11_default running

# virtnbdbackup -d debian11_default -o /tmp/foo -s
INFO lib common - printVersion [MainThread]: Version: 1.9.45 Arguments: ./virtnbdbackup -d debian11_default -o /tmp/foo -s
[..] 
INFO root virtnbdbackup - main [MainThread]: Local NBD Endpoint socket: [/var/tmp/virtnbdbackup.5727] 
INFO root virtnbdbackup - startBackupJob [MainThread]: Starting backup job.
INFO fs fs - freeze [MainThread]: Freezed [2] filesystems. 
INFO fs fs - thaw [MainThread]: Thawed [2] filesystems. 
INFO root virtnbdbackup - main [MainThread]: Started backup job for debugging, exiting.

# nbdinfo "nbd+unix:///vda?socket=/var/tmp/virtnbdbackup.5727" 
    protocol: newstyle-fixed without TLS, using structured packets 
    export="vda": 
    export-size: 137438953472 (128G) 
    content: 
        DOS/MBR boot sector uri: nbd+unix:///vda?socket=/var/tmp/virtnbdbackup.5727

# qemu-img create -F raw -b nbd+unix:///vda?socket=/var/tmp/virtnbdbackup.5727 -f qcow2 upgrade.qcow2

• Create another domain config in libvirt which points to this disk image, boot.
• Extract the current qemu command line for the the running domain using virsh domxml-to-native qemu-argv --domain debian11_default and execute it manually after adjusting required parameters.
• Trust for everything to work out in the simplest way and simply boot up the image via:

# qemu-system-x86_64 -hda upgrade.qcow2 -m 2500 --enable-kvm

# virtnbdbackup -d debian11_default -o /tmp/foo -k
INFO lib common - printVersion [MainThread]: Version: 1.9.45 Arguments: ./virtnbdbackup -d debian11_default -o /tmp/foo -k 
[..]
INFO root virtnbdbackup - main [MainThread]: Stopping backup job

# rm -f upgrade.qcow2

postfix/smtpd[3319640]: warning: TLS library problem: error:1417A0C1:SSL routines:tls_post_process_client_hello:no shared cipher:../ssl/statem/statem_srvr.c:2283:
postfix/smtpd[3319640]: lost connection after STARTTLS from mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61]

postfix/smtpd[3320018]: initializing the server-side TLS engine
postfix/tlsmgr[3320020]: open smtpd TLS cache btree:/var/lib/postfix/smtpd_scache
postfix/tlsmgr[3320020]: tlsmgr_cache_run_event: start TLS smtpd session cache cleanup
postfix/smtpd[3320018]: connect from mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61]
postfix/smtpd[3320018]: setting up TLS connection from mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61]
postfix/smtpd[3320018]: mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61]: TLS cipher list "aNULL:-aNULL:HIGH:MEDIUM:+RC4:@STRENGTH"
postfix/smtpd[3320018]: SSL_accept:before SSL initialization
postfix/smtpd[3320018]: SSL_accept:before SSL initialization
postfix/smtpd[3320018]: SSL3 alert write:fatal:handshake failure
postfix/smtpd[3320018]: SSL_accept:error in error
postfix/smtpd[3320018]: SSL_accept error from mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61]: -1
postfix/smtpd[3320018]: warning: TLS library problem: error:1417A0C1:SSL routines:tls_post_process_client_hello:no shared cipher:../ssl/statem/statem_srvr.c:2283:
postfix/smtpd[3320018]: lost connection after STARTTLS from mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61]
postfix/smtpd[3320018]: disconnect from mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61] ehlo=1 starttls=0/1 commands=1/2
postfix/smtpd[3320018]: connect from mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61]
postfix/smtpd[3320018]: disconnect from mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61] ehlo=1 quit=1 commands=2

% testssl --cipher-per-proto -t=smtp mx01.arz.at:25
[...]
Hexcode  Cipher Suite Name (OpenSSL)       KeyExch.   Encryption  Bits     Cipher Suite Name (IANA/RFC)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SSLv2
SSLv3
TLS 1
TLS 1.1
TLS 1.2
 xc030   ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384       ECDH 256   AESGCM      256      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
 xc028   ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384           ECDH 256   AES         256      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384
 xc014   ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA              ECDH 256   AES         256      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x9d     AES256-GCM-SHA384                 RSA        AESGCM      256      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
 x3d     AES256-SHA256                     RSA        AES         256      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
 x35     AES256-SHA                        RSA        AES         256      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 xc02f   ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256       ECDH 256   AESGCM      128      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
 xc027   ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256           ECDH 256   AES         128      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
 xc013   ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA              ECDH 256   AES         128      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x9c     AES128-GCM-SHA256                 RSA        AESGCM      128      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
 x3c     AES128-SHA256                     RSA        AES         128      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
 x2f     AES128-SHA                        RSA        AES         128      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
TLS 1.3

[000.705] 	<-- 	220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS
[000.705] 		STARTTLS command works on this server
[001.260] 		Connection converted to SSL
		SSLVersion in use: TLSv1_2
		Cipher in use: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
		Perfect Forward Secrecy: yes
		Session Algorithm in use: Curve P-256 DHE(256 bits)
		Certificate #1 of 3 (sent by MX):
		Cert VALIDATED: ok
		Cert Hostname VERIFIED (mx01.arz.at = *.arz.at   DNS:*.arz.at   DNS:arz.at)
[...]
[001.517] 		TLS successfully started on this server

% testssl --cipher-per-proto -t=smtp mail.example.com:25
[...]
Hexcode  Cipher Suite Name (OpenSSL)       KeyExch.   Encryption  Bits     Cipher Suite Name (IANA/RFC)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SSLv2
SSLv3
TLS 1
 xc00a   ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA            ECDH 253   AES         256      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 xc019   AECDH-AES256-SHA                  ECDH 253   AES         256      TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x3a     ADH-AES256-SHA                    DH 2048    AES         256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x89     ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA               DH 2048    Camellia    256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA
 xc009   ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA            ECDH 253   AES         128      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 xc018   AECDH-AES128-SHA                  ECDH 253   AES         128      TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x34     ADH-AES128-SHA                    DH 2048    AES         128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x9b     ADH-SEED-SHA                      DH 2048    SEED        128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_SEED_CBC_SHA
 x46     ADH-CAMELLIA128-SHA               DH 2048    Camellia    128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA
TLS 1.1
 xc00a   ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA            ECDH 253   AES         256      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 xc019   AECDH-AES256-SHA                  ECDH 253   AES         256      TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x3a     ADH-AES256-SHA                    DH 2048    AES         256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x89     ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA               DH 2048    Camellia    256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA
 xc009   ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA            ECDH 253   AES         128      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 xc018   AECDH-AES128-SHA                  ECDH 253   AES         128      TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x34     ADH-AES128-SHA                    DH 2048    AES         128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x9b     ADH-SEED-SHA                      DH 2048    SEED        128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_SEED_CBC_SHA
 x46     ADH-CAMELLIA128-SHA               DH 2048    Camellia    128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA
TLS 1.2
 xc02c   ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384     ECDH 253   AESGCM      256      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
 xc024   ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA384         ECDH 253   AES         256      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384
 xc00a   ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA            ECDH 253   AES         256      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 xcca9   ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305     ECDH 253   ChaCha20    256      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256
 xc0af   ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-CCM8           ECDH 253   AESCCM8     256      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CCM_8
 xc0ad   ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-CCM            ECDH 253   AESCCM      256      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CCM
 xc073   ECDHE-ECDSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA384    ECDH 253   Camellia    256      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA384
 xc019   AECDH-AES256-SHA                  ECDH 253   AES         256      TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 xa7     ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384             DH 2048    AESGCM      256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
 x6d     ADH-AES256-SHA256                 DH 2048    AES         256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
 x3a     ADH-AES256-SHA                    DH 2048    AES         256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 xc5     ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA256            DH 2048    Camellia    256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA256
 x89     ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA               DH 2048    Camellia    256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA
 xc05d   ECDHE-ECDSA-ARIA256-GCM-SHA384    ECDH 253   ARIAGCM     256      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_ARIA_256_GCM_SHA384
 xc02b   ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256     ECDH 253   AESGCM      128      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
 xc023   ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA256         ECDH 253   AES         128      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
 xc009   ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA            ECDH 253   AES         128      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 xc0ae   ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-CCM8           ECDH 253   AESCCM8     128      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM_8
 xc0ac   ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-CCM            ECDH 253   AESCCM      128      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM
 xc072   ECDHE-ECDSA-CAMELLIA128-SHA256    ECDH 253   Camellia    128      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA256
 xc018   AECDH-AES128-SHA                  ECDH 253   AES         128      TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 xa6     ADH-AES128-GCM-SHA256             DH 2048    AESGCM      128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
 x6c     ADH-AES128-SHA256                 DH 2048    AES         128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
 x34     ADH-AES128-SHA                    DH 2048    AES         128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 xbf     ADH-CAMELLIA128-SHA256            DH 2048    Camellia    128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA256
 x9b     ADH-SEED-SHA                      DH 2048    SEED        128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_SEED_CBC_SHA
 x46     ADH-CAMELLIA128-SHA               DH 2048    Camellia    128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA
 xc05c   ECDHE-ECDSA-ARIA128-GCM-SHA256    ECDH 253   ARIAGCM     128      TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_ARIA_128_GCM_SHA256
TLS 1.3
 x1302   TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384            ECDH 253   AESGCM      256      TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
 x1303   TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256      ECDH 253   ChaCha20    256      TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256
 x1301   TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256            ECDH 253   AESGCM      128      TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256

% sudo postconf -nf smtpd_discard_ehlo_keyword_address_maps
smtpd_discard_ehlo_keyword_address_maps =
    hash:/etc/postfix/smtpd_discard_ehlo_keywords
% cat /etc/postfix/smtpd_discard_ehlo_keywords
# *disable* starttls for mx01.arz.at / mx02.arz.at:
193.110.182.61 starttls
193.110.182.62 starttls

postfix/smtpd[4151799]: connect from mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61]
postfix/smtpd[4151799]: discarding EHLO keywords: STARTTLS
postfix/smtpd[4151799]: disconnect from mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61] ehlo=1 quit=1 commands=2

% sudo postconf -Mf
[...]
10025      inet  n       -       -       -       -       smtpd
    -o syslog_name=postfix/smtpd/badstarttls
    -o smtpd_tls_security_level=none
    -o smtpd_helo_required=yes
    -o smtpd_helo_restrictions=pcre:/etc/postfix/helo_badstarttls_allow,reject
    -v
[...]
% cat /etc/postfix/helo_badstarttls_allow
/mx01.arz.at/ OK
/mx02.arz.at/ OK
/193.110.182.61/ OK
/193.110.182.62/ OK

% sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -s 193.110.182.61 --dport 25 -j REDIRECT --to-port 10025
% sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -s 193.110.182.62 --dport 25 -j REDIRECT --to-port 10025

[...]
postfix/smtpd/badstarttls/smtpd[3491900]: connect from mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61]
[...]
postfix/smtpd/badstarttls/smtpd[3491901]: disconnect from mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61] ehlo=1 quit=1 commands=2
postfix/smtpd/badstarttls/smtpd[3491901]: master_notify: status 1
postfix/smtpd/badstarttls/smtpd[3491901]: connection closed
[...]

% echo QUIT   openssl s_client -connect mail.example.com:25 -starttls
[...]
issuer=C = US, O = Let's Encrypt, CN = R3
---
No client certificate CA names sent
Peer signing digest: SHA384
Peer signature type: ECDSA
Server Temp Key: X25519, 253 bits
---
SSL handshake has read 4455 bytes and written 427 bytes
Verification: OK
---
New, TLSv1.3, Cipher is TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
Server public key is 384 bit
[...]

% echo KEY_ALGO=rsa > certs/mail.example.com/config
% ./dehydrated -c --domain mail.example.com --force
% sudo systemctl reload postfix

% echo QUIT   openssl s_client -connect mail.example.com:25 -starttls smtp
CONNECTED(00000003)
[...]
issuer=C = US, O = Let's Encrypt, CN = R3
---
No client certificate CA names sent
Peer signing digest: SHA256
Peer signature type: RSA-PSS
Server Temp Key: X25519, 253 bits
---
SSL handshake has read 5295 bytes and written 427 bytes
Verification: OK
---
New, TLSv1.3, Cipher is TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
Server public key is 4096 bit

% testssl --cipher-per-proto -t=smtp mail.example.com:25
[...]
Hexcode  Cipher Suite Name (OpenSSL)       KeyExch.   Encryption  Bits     Cipher Suite Name (IANA/RFC)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SSLv2
SSLv3
TLS 1
 xc014   ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA              ECDH 253   AES         256      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x39     DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA                DH 2048    AES         256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x88     DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA           DH 2048    Camellia    256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA
 xc019   AECDH-AES256-SHA                  ECDH 253   AES         256      TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x3a     ADH-AES256-SHA                    DH 2048    AES         256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x89     ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA               DH 2048    Camellia    256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA
 x35     AES256-SHA                        RSA        AES         256      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x84     CAMELLIA256-SHA                   RSA        Camellia    256      TLS_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA
 xc013   ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA              ECDH 253   AES         128      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x33     DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA                DH 2048    AES         128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x9a     DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA                  DH 2048    SEED        128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_SEED_CBC_SHA
 x45     DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA128-SHA           DH 2048    Camellia    128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA
 xc018   AECDH-AES128-SHA                  ECDH 253   AES         128      TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x34     ADH-AES128-SHA                    DH 2048    AES         128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x9b     ADH-SEED-SHA                      DH 2048    SEED        128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_SEED_CBC_SHA
 x46     ADH-CAMELLIA128-SHA               DH 2048    Camellia    128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA
 x2f     AES128-SHA                        RSA        AES         128      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x96     SEED-SHA                          RSA        SEED        128      TLS_RSA_WITH_SEED_CBC_SHA
 x41     CAMELLIA128-SHA                   RSA        Camellia    128      TLS_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA
TLS 1.1
 xc014   ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA              ECDH 253   AES         256      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x39     DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA                DH 2048    AES         256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x88     DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA           DH 2048    Camellia    256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA
 xc019   AECDH-AES256-SHA                  ECDH 253   AES         256      TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x3a     ADH-AES256-SHA                    DH 2048    AES         256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x89     ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA               DH 2048    Camellia    256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA
 x35     AES256-SHA                        RSA        AES         256      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x84     CAMELLIA256-SHA                   RSA        Camellia    256      TLS_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA
 xc013   ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA              ECDH 253   AES         128      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x33     DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA                DH 2048    AES         128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x9a     DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA                  DH 2048    SEED        128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_SEED_CBC_SHA
 x45     DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA128-SHA           DH 2048    Camellia    128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA
 xc018   AECDH-AES128-SHA                  ECDH 253   AES         128      TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x34     ADH-AES128-SHA                    DH 2048    AES         128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x9b     ADH-SEED-SHA                      DH 2048    SEED        128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_SEED_CBC_SHA
 x46     ADH-CAMELLIA128-SHA               DH 2048    Camellia    128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA
 x2f     AES128-SHA                        RSA        AES         128      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x96     SEED-SHA                          RSA        SEED        128      TLS_RSA_WITH_SEED_CBC_SHA
 x41     CAMELLIA128-SHA                   RSA        Camellia    128      TLS_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA
TLS 1.2
 xc030   ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384       ECDH 253   AESGCM      256      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
 xc028   ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384           ECDH 253   AES         256      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384
 xc014   ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA              ECDH 253   AES         256      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x9f     DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384         DH 2048    AESGCM      256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
 xcca8   ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305       ECDH 253   ChaCha20    256      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256
 xccaa   DHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305         DH 2048    ChaCha20    256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256
 xc0a3   DHE-RSA-AES256-CCM8               DH 2048    AESCCM8     256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CCM_8
 xc09f   DHE-RSA-AES256-CCM                DH 2048    AESCCM      256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CCM
 x6b     DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256             DH 2048    AES         256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
 x39     DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA                DH 2048    AES         256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 xc077   ECDHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA384      ECDH 253   Camellia    256      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA384
 xc4     DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA256        DH 2048    Camellia    256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA256
 x88     DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA           DH 2048    Camellia    256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA
 xc019   AECDH-AES256-SHA                  ECDH 253   AES         256      TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 xa7     ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384             DH 2048    AESGCM      256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
 x6d     ADH-AES256-SHA256                 DH 2048    AES         256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
 x3a     ADH-AES256-SHA                    DH 2048    AES         256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 xc5     ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA256            DH 2048    Camellia    256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA256
 x89     ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA               DH 2048    Camellia    256      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA
 x9d     AES256-GCM-SHA384                 RSA        AESGCM      256      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
 xc0a1   AES256-CCM8                       RSA        AESCCM8     256      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CCM_8
 xc09d   AES256-CCM                        RSA        AESCCM      256      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CCM
 x3d     AES256-SHA256                     RSA        AES         256      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
 x35     AES256-SHA                        RSA        AES         256      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 xc0     CAMELLIA256-SHA256                RSA        Camellia    256      TLS_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA256
 x84     CAMELLIA256-SHA                   RSA        Camellia    256      TLS_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA
 xc051   ARIA256-GCM-SHA384                RSA        ARIAGCM     256      TLS_RSA_WITH_ARIA_256_GCM_SHA384
 xc053   DHE-RSA-ARIA256-GCM-SHA384        DH 2048    ARIAGCM     256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_ARIA_256_GCM_SHA384
 xc061   ECDHE-ARIA256-GCM-SHA384          ECDH 253   ARIAGCM     256      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_ARIA_256_GCM_SHA384
 xc02f   ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256       ECDH 253   AESGCM      128      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
 xc027   ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256           ECDH 253   AES         128      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
 xc013   ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA              ECDH 253   AES         128      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x9e     DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256         DH 2048    AESGCM      128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
 xc0a2   DHE-RSA-AES128-CCM8               DH 2048    AESCCM8     128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM_8
 xc09e   DHE-RSA-AES128-CCM                DH 2048    AESCCM      128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM
 xc0a0   AES128-CCM8                       RSA        AESCCM8     128      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM_8
 xc09c   AES128-CCM                        RSA        AESCCM      128      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM
 x67     DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256             DH 2048    AES         128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
 x33     DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA                DH 2048    AES         128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 xc076   ECDHE-RSA-CAMELLIA128-SHA256      ECDH 253   Camellia    128      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA256
 xbe     DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA128-SHA256        DH 2048    Camellia    128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA256
 x9a     DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA                  DH 2048    SEED        128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_SEED_CBC_SHA
 x45     DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA128-SHA           DH 2048    Camellia    128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA
 xc018   AECDH-AES128-SHA                  ECDH 253   AES         128      TLS_ECDH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 xa6     ADH-AES128-GCM-SHA256             DH 2048    AESGCM      128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
 x6c     ADH-AES128-SHA256                 DH 2048    AES         128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
 x34     ADH-AES128-SHA                    DH 2048    AES         128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 xbf     ADH-CAMELLIA128-SHA256            DH 2048    Camellia    128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA256
 x9b     ADH-SEED-SHA                      DH 2048    SEED        128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_SEED_CBC_SHA
 x46     ADH-CAMELLIA128-SHA               DH 2048    Camellia    128      TLS_DH_anon_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA
 x9c     AES128-GCM-SHA256                 RSA        AESGCM      128      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
 x3c     AES128-SHA256                     RSA        AES         128      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
 x2f     AES128-SHA                        RSA        AES         128      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 xba     CAMELLIA128-SHA256                RSA        Camellia    128      TLS_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA256
 x96     SEED-SHA                          RSA        SEED        128      TLS_RSA_WITH_SEED_CBC_SHA
 x41     CAMELLIA128-SHA                   RSA        Camellia    128      TLS_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA
 xc050   ARIA128-GCM-SHA256                RSA        ARIAGCM     128      TLS_RSA_WITH_ARIA_128_GCM_SHA256
 xc052   DHE-RSA-ARIA128-GCM-SHA256        DH 2048    ARIAGCM     128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_ARIA_128_GCM_SHA256
 xc060   ECDHE-ARIA128-GCM-SHA256          ECDH 253   ARIAGCM     128      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_ARIA_128_GCM_SHA256
TLS 1.3
 x1302   TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384            ECDH 253   AESGCM      256      TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
 x1303   TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256      ECDH 253   ChaCha20    256      TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256
 x1301   TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256            ECDH 253   AESGCM      128      TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256

smtpd_tls_ciphers = medium
smtpd_tls_mandatory_ciphers = medium
smtpd_tls_mandatory_exclude_ciphers =
smtpd_tls_mandatory_protocols = !SSLv2, !SSLv3

% sudo tshark -n -i eth0 -s 65535 -w arz.pcap -f "host 193.110.182.61 or host 193.110.182.62"

postfix/smtpd[4162835]: connect from mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61]
postfix/smtpd[4162835]: Anonymous TLS connection established from mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61]: TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)
postfix/smtpd[4162835]: E50D6401E6: client=mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61]
postfix/smtpd[4162835]: disconnect from mx01.arz.at[193.110.182.61] ehlo=2 starttls=1 mail=1 rcpt=1 data=1 quit=1 commands=7

[...]
% tshark -o smtp.decryption:true -r arz.pcap
    1 0.000000000 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TCP 74 24699   25 [SYN] Seq=0 Win=29200 Len=0 MSS=1460 SACK_PERM=1 TSval=2261106119 TSecr=0 WS=128
    2 0.000042827 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TCP 74 25   24699 [SYN, ACK] Seq=0 Ack=1 Win=65160 Len=0 MSS=1460 SACK_PERM=1 TSval=3233422181 TSecr=2261106119 WS=128
    3 0.020719269 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TCP 66 24699   25 [ACK] Seq=1 Ack=1 Win=29312 Len=0 TSval=2261106139 TSecr=3233422181
    4 0.022883259 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 SMTP 96 S: 220 mail.example.com ESMTP
    5 0.043682626 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TCP 66 24699   25 [ACK] Seq=1 Ack=31 Win=29312 Len=0 TSval=2261106162 TSecr=3233422203
    6 0.043799047 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 SMTP 84 C: EHLO mx01.arz.at
    7 0.043811363 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TCP 66 25   24699 [ACK] Seq=31 Ack=19 Win=65280 Len=0 TSval=3233422224 TSecr=2261106162
    8 0.043898412 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 SMTP 253 S: 250-mail.example.com   PIPELINING   SIZE 20240000   VRFY   ETRN   AUTH PLAIN   AUTH=PLAIN   ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES   8BITMIME   DSN   SMTPUTF8   CHUNKING
    9 0.064625499 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 SMTP 72 C: QUIT
   10 0.064750257 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 SMTP 81 S: 221 2.0.0 Bye
   11 0.064760200 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TCP 66 25   24699 [FIN, ACK] Seq=233 Ack=25 Win=65280 Len=0 TSval=3233422245 TSecr=2261106183
   12 0.085573715 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TCP 66 24699   25 [FIN, ACK] Seq=25 Ack=234 Win=30336 Len=0 TSval=2261106204 TSecr=3233422245
   13 0.085610229 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TCP 66 25   24699 [ACK] Seq=234 Ack=26 Win=65280 Len=0 TSval=3233422266 TSecr=2261106204
   14 1799.888108373 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TCP 74 10330   25 [SYN] Seq=0 Win=29200 Len=0 MSS=1460 SACK_PERM=1 TSval=2262906007 TSecr=0 WS=128
   15 1799.888161311 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TCP 74 25   10330 [SYN, ACK] Seq=0 Ack=1 Win=65160 Len=0 MSS=1460 SACK_PERM=1 TSval=3235222069 TSecr=2262906007 WS=128
   16 1799.909030335 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TCP 66 10330   25 [ACK] Seq=1 Ack=1 Win=29312 Len=0 TSval=2262906028 TSecr=3235222069
   17 1799.956621011 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 SMTP 96 S: 220 mail.example.com ESMTP
   18 1799.977229656 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TCP 66 10330   25 [ACK] Seq=1 Ack=31 Win=29312 Len=0 TSval=2262906096 TSecr=3235222137
   19 1799.977229698 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 SMTP 84 C: EHLO mx01.arz.at
   20 1799.977266759 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TCP 66 25   10330 [ACK] Seq=31 Ack=19 Win=65280 Len=0 TSval=3235222158 TSecr=2262906096
   21 1799.977351663 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 SMTP 267 S: 250-mail.example.com   PIPELINING   SIZE 20240000   VRFY   ETRN   STARTTLS   AUTH PLAIN   AUTH=PLAIN   ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES   8BITMIME   DSN   SMTPUTF8   CHUNKING
   22 1800.011494861 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 SMTP 76 C: STARTTLS
   23 1800.011589267 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 SMTP 96 S: 220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS
   24 1800.032812294 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TLSv1 223 Client Hello
   25 1800.032987264 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TLSv1.2 2962 Server Hello
   26 1800.032995513 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TCP 1266 25   10330 [PSH, ACK] Seq=3158 Ack=186 Win=65152 Len=1200 TSval=3235222214 TSecr=2262906151 [TCP segment of a reassembled PDU]
   27 1800.053546755 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TCP 66 10330   25 [ACK] Seq=186 Ack=3158 Win=36096 Len=0 TSval=2262906172 TSecr=3235222214
   28 1800.092852469 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TCP 66 10330   25 [ACK] Seq=186 Ack=4358 Win=39040 Len=0 TSval=2262906212 TSecr=3235222214
   29 1800.092892905 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TLSv1.2 900 Certificate, Server Key Exchange, Server Hello Done
   30 1800.113546769 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TCP 66 10330   25 [ACK] Seq=186 Ack=5192 Win=41856 Len=0 TSval=2262906232 TSecr=3235222273
   31 1800.114763363 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TLSv1.2 192 Client Key Exchange, Change Cipher Spec, Encrypted Handshake Message
   32 1800.115000416 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TLSv1.2 117 Change Cipher Spec, Encrypted Handshake Message
   33 1800.136070200 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TLSv1.2 113 Application Data
   34 1800.136155526 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TLSv1.2 282 Application Data
   35 1800.158854473 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TLSv1.2 162 Application Data
   36 1800.159254794 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TLSv1.2 109 Application Data
   37 1800.180286407 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TLSv1.2 144 Application Data
   38 1800.223005960 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TCP 66 25   10330 [ACK] Seq=5502 Ack=533 Win=65152 Len=0 TSval=3235222404 TSecr=2262906299
   39 1802.230300244 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TLSv1.2 146 Application Data
   40 1802.251994333 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TCP 2962 [TCP segment of a reassembled PDU]
   41 1802.252034015 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TCP 66 25   10330 [ACK] Seq=5582 Ack=3429 Win=63616 Len=0 TSval=3235224433 TSecr=2262908371
   42 1802.252279083 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TLSv1.2 1295 Application Data
   43 1802.252288316 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TCP 66 25   10330 [ACK] Seq=5582 Ack=4658 Win=64128 Len=0 TSval=3235224433 TSecr=2262908371
   44 1802.272816060 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TLSv1.2 833 Application Data, Application Data
   45 1802.272827542 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TCP 66 25   10330 [ACK] Seq=5582 Ack=5425 Win=64128 Len=0 TSval=3235224453 TSecr=2262908392
   46 1802.338807683 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TLSv1.2 131 Application Data
   47 1802.398968611 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TCP 66 10330   25 [ACK] Seq=5425 Ack=5647 Win=44800 Len=0 TSval=2262908518 TSecr=3235224519
   48 1863.257457500 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TLSv1.2 101 Application Data
   49 1863.257495688 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TCP 66 25   10330 [ACK] Seq=5647 Ack=5460 Win=64128 Len=0 TSval=3235285438 TSecr=2262969376
   50 1863.257654942 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TLSv1.2 110 Application Data
   51 1863.257721010 203.0.113.42   193.110.182.61 TLSv1.2 97 Encrypted Alert
   52 1863.278242216 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TCP 66 10330   25 [ACK] Seq=5460 Ack=5691 Win=44800 Len=0 TSval=2262969397 TSecr=3235285438
   53 1863.278464176 193.110.182.61   203.0.113.42 TCP 66 10330   25 [RST, ACK] Seq=5460 Ack=5723 Win=44800 Len=0 TSval=2262969397 TSecr=3235285438

% tshark -O tls -r arz.pcap
[...]
Transport Layer Security
    TLSv1 Record Layer: Handshake Protocol: Client Hello
        Content Type: Handshake (22)
        Version: TLS 1.0 (0x0301)
        Length: 152
        Handshake Protocol: Client Hello
            Handshake Type: Client Hello (1)
            Length: 148
            Version: TLS 1.2 (0x0303)
            Random: 4575d1e7c93c09a564edc00b8b56ea6f5d826f8cfe78eb980c451a70a9c5123f
                GMT Unix Time: Dec  5, 2006 21:09:11.000000000 CET
                Random Bytes: c93c09a564edc00b8b56ea6f5d826f8cfe78eb980c451a70a9c5123f
            Session ID Length: 0
            Cipher Suites Length: 26
            Cipher Suites (13 suites)
                Cipher Suite: TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (0xc030)
                Cipher Suite: TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (0xc02f)
                Cipher Suite: TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384 (0xc028)
                Cipher Suite: TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (0xc027)
                Cipher Suite: TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (0xc014)
                Cipher Suite: TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (0xc013)
                Cipher Suite: TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (0x009d)
                Cipher Suite: TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (0x009c)
                Cipher Suite: TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256 (0x003d)
                Cipher Suite: TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (0x003c)
                Cipher Suite: TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (0x0035)
                Cipher Suite: TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (0x002f)
                Cipher Suite: TLS_EMPTY_RENEGOTIATION_INFO_SCSV (0x00ff)
[...]
Transport Layer Security
    TLSv1.2 Record Layer: Handshake Protocol: Server Hello
        Content Type: Handshake (22)
        Version: TLS 1.2 (0x0303)
        Length: 89
        Handshake Protocol: Server Hello
            Handshake Type: Server Hello (2)
            Length: 85
            Version: TLS 1.2 (0x0303)
            Random: cf2ed24e3300e95e5f56023bf8b4e5904b862bb2ed8a5796444f574e47524401
                GMT Unix Time: Feb 23, 2080 23:16:46.000000000 CET
                Random Bytes: 3300e95e5f56023bf8b4e5904b862bb2ed8a5796444f574e47524401
            Session ID Length: 32
            Session ID: 63d041b126ecebf857d685abd9d4593c46a3672e1ad76228f3eacf2164f86fb9
            Cipher Suite: TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (0xc030)
[...]

smtpd_tls_ciphers = high
smtpd_tls_exclude_ciphers = aNULL CAMELLIA
smtpd_tls_mandatory_ciphers = high
smtpd_tls_mandatory_protocols = TLSv1.2 TLSv1.3
smtpd_tls_protocols = TLSv1.2 TLSv1.3

% testssl --cipher-per-proto -t=smtp mail.example.com:25
[...]
Hexcode  Cipher Suite Name (OpenSSL)       KeyExch.   Encryption  Bits     Cipher Suite Name (IANA/RFC)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SSLv2
SSLv3
TLS 1
TLS 1.1
TLS 1.2
 xc030   ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384       ECDH 253   AESGCM      256      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
 xc028   ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384           ECDH 253   AES         256      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384
 xc014   ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA              ECDH 253   AES         256      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x9f     DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384         DH 2048    AESGCM      256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
 xcca8   ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305       ECDH 253   ChaCha20    256      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256
 xccaa   DHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305         DH 2048    ChaCha20    256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256
 xc0a3   DHE-RSA-AES256-CCM8               DH 2048    AESCCM8     256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CCM_8
 xc09f   DHE-RSA-AES256-CCM                DH 2048    AESCCM      256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CCM
 x6b     DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256             DH 2048    AES         256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
 x39     DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA                DH 2048    AES         256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 x9d     AES256-GCM-SHA384                 RSA        AESGCM      256      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
 xc0a1   AES256-CCM8                       RSA        AESCCM8     256      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CCM_8
 xc09d   AES256-CCM                        RSA        AESCCM      256      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CCM
 x3d     AES256-SHA256                     RSA        AES         256      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
 x35     AES256-SHA                        RSA        AES         256      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
 xc051   ARIA256-GCM-SHA384                RSA        ARIAGCM     256      TLS_RSA_WITH_ARIA_256_GCM_SHA384
 xc053   DHE-RSA-ARIA256-GCM-SHA384        DH 2048    ARIAGCM     256      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_ARIA_256_GCM_SHA384
 xc061   ECDHE-ARIA256-GCM-SHA384          ECDH 253   ARIAGCM     256      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_ARIA_256_GCM_SHA384
 xc02f   ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256       ECDH 253   AESGCM      128      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
 xc027   ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256           ECDH 253   AES         128      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
 xc013   ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA              ECDH 253   AES         128      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x9e     DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256         DH 2048    AESGCM      128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
 xc0a2   DHE-RSA-AES128-CCM8               DH 2048    AESCCM8     128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM_8
 xc09e   DHE-RSA-AES128-CCM                DH 2048    AESCCM      128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM
 xc0a0   AES128-CCM8                       RSA        AESCCM8     128      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM_8
 xc09c   AES128-CCM                        RSA        AESCCM      128      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM
 x67     DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256             DH 2048    AES         128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
 x33     DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA                DH 2048    AES         128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 x9c     AES128-GCM-SHA256                 RSA        AESGCM      128      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
 x3c     AES128-SHA256                     RSA        AES         128      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
 x2f     AES128-SHA                        RSA        AES         128      TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
 xc050   ARIA128-GCM-SHA256                RSA        ARIAGCM     128      TLS_RSA_WITH_ARIA_128_GCM_SHA256
 xc052   DHE-RSA-ARIA128-GCM-SHA256        DH 2048    ARIAGCM     128      TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_ARIA_128_GCM_SHA256
 xc060   ECDHE-ARIA128-GCM-SHA256          ECDH 253   ARIAGCM     128      TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_ARIA_128_GCM_SHA256
TLS 1.3
 x1302   TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384            ECDH 253   AESGCM      256      TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
 x1303   TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256      ECDH 253   ChaCha20    256      TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256
 x1301   TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256            ECDH 253   AESGCM      128      TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256

• no matter what you change in your mail server settings, be aware that the type of your SSL certificate also matters for what ciphers are offered and used
• there are mail servers out there that don t support SSL certificates with ECDSA, using RSA for those ensure better compatibility (nowadays postfix supports parallel usage of ECDSA and RSA keys BTW, check out the smtpd_tls_eccert_file + smtpd_tls_eckey_file options)
• testssl is a very useful tool, especially with its cipher-per-proto -t=smtp option to check SMTP servers
• if you re uncertain what s going on, consider capturing network data (tshark/tcpdump/ are your friends)
• review your postfix configuration and logs every now and then :)

A modest proposal Global wireless services (like phone services) and home internet inevitably grow into monopolies. They are public utilities, just like water, power, railways, and roads. The question of how they should be managed is therefore inherently political, yet people don't seem to question the idea that only the market (i.e. "competition") can solve this problem. I disagree. 10 years ago (in french), I suggested we, in Qu bec, should nationalize large telcos and internet service providers. I no longer believe is a realistic approach: most of those companies have crap copper-based networks (at least for the last mile), yet are worth billions of dollars. It would be prohibitive, and a waste, to buy them out. Back then, I called this idea "R seau-Qu bec", a reference to the already nationalized power company, Hydro-Qu bec. (This idea, incidentally, made it into the plan of a political party.) Now, I think we should instead build our own, public internet. Start setting up municipal internet services, fiber to the home in all cities, progressively. Then interconnect cities with fiber, and build peering agreements with other providers. This also includes a bid on wireless spectrum to start competing with phone providers as well. And while that sounds really ambitious, I think it's possible to take this one step at a time.

Municipal broadband In many parts of the world, municipal broadband is an elegant solution to the problem, with solutions ranging from Stockholm's city-owned fiber network (dark fiber, layer 1) to Utah's UTOPIA network (fiber to the premises, layer 2) and municipal wireless networks like Guifi.net which connects about 40,000 nodes in Catalonia. A good first step would be for cities to start providing broadband services to its residents, directly. Cities normally own sewage and water systems that interconnect most residences and therefore have direct physical access everywhere. In Montr al, in particular, there is an ongoing project to replace a lot of old lead-based plumbing which would give an opportunity to lay down a wired fiber network across the city. This is a wild guess, but I suspect this would be much less expensive than one would think. Some people agree with me and quote this as low as 1000$ per household. There is about 800,000 households in the city of Montr al, so we're talking about a 800 million dollars investment here, to connect every household in Montr al with fiber and incidentally a quarter of the province's population. And this is not an up-front cost: this can be built progressively, with expenses amortized over many years. (We should not, however, connect Montr al first: it's used as an example here because it's a large number of households to connect.) Such a network should be built with a redundant topology. I leave it as an open question whether we should adopt Stockholm's more minimalist approach or provide direct IP connectivity. I would tend to favor the latter, because then you can immediately start to offer the service to households and generate revenues to compensate for the capital expenditures. Given the ridiculous profit margins telcos currently have 8 billion $CAD net income for BCE (2019), 2 billion $CAD for Rogers (2020) I also believe this would actually turn into a profitable revenue stream for the city, the same way Hydro-Qu bec is more and more considered as a revenue stream for the state. (I personally believe that's actually wrong and we should treat those resources as human rights and not money cows, but I digress. The point is: this is not a cost point, it's a revenue.) The other major challenge here is that the city will need competent engineers to drive this project forward. But this is not different from the way other public utilities run: we have electrical engineers at Hydro, sewer and water engineers at the city, this is just another profession. If anything, the computing science sector might be more at fault than the city here in its failure to provide competent and accountable engineers to society... Right now, most of the network in Canada is copper: we are hitting the limits of that technology with DSL, and while cable has some life left to it (DOCSIS 4.0 does 4Gbps), that is nowhere near the capacity of fiber. Take the town of Chattanooga, Tennessee: in 2010, the city-owned ISP EPB finished deploying a fiber network to the entire town and provided gigabit internet to everyone. Now, 12 years later, they are using this same network to provide the mind-boggling speed of 25 gigabit to the home. To give you an idea, Chattanooga is roughly the size and density of Sherbrooke.

Provincial public internet As part of building a municipal network, the question of getting access to "the internet" will immediately come up. Naturally, this will first be solved by using already existing commercial providers to hook up residents to the rest of the global network. But eventually, networks should inter-connect: Montr al should connect with Laval, and then Trois-Rivi res, then Qu bec City. This will require long haul fiber runs, but those links are not actually that expensive, and many of those already exist as a public resource at RISQ and CANARIE, which cross-connects universities and colleges across the province and the country. Those networks might not have the capacity to cover the needs of the entire province right now, but that is a router upgrade away, thanks to the amazing capacity of fiber. There are two crucial mistakes to avoid at this point. First, the network needs to remain decentralised. Long haul links should be IP links with BGP sessions, and each city (or MRC) should have its own independent network, to avoid Rogers-class catastrophic failures. Second, skill needs to remain in-house: RISQ has already made that mistake, to a certain extent, by selling its neutral datacenter. Tellingly, MetroOptic, probably the largest commercial dark fiber provider in the province, now operates the QIX, the second largest "public" internet exchange in Canada. Still, we have a lot of infrastructure we can leverage here. If RISQ or CANARIE cannot be up to the task, Hydro-Qu bec has power lines running into every house in the province, with high voltage power lines running hundreds of kilometers far north. The logistics of long distance maintenance are already solved by that institution. In fact, Hydro already has fiber all over the province, but it is a private network, separate from the internet for security reasons (and that should probably remain so). But this only shows they already have the expertise to lay down fiber: they would just need to lay down a parallel network to the existing one. In that architecture, Hydro would be a "dark fiber" provider.

International public internet None of the above solves the problem for the entire population of Qu bec, which is notoriously dispersed, with an area three times the size of France, but with only an eight of its population (8 million vs 67). More specifically, Canada was originally a french colony, a land violently stolen from native people who have lived here for thousands of years. Some of those people now live in reservations, sometimes far from urban centers (but definitely not always). So the idea of leveraging the Hydro-Qu bec infrastructure doesn't always work to solve this, because while Hydro will happily flood a traditional hunting territory for an electric dam, they don't bother running power lines to the village they forcibly moved, powering it instead with noisy and polluting diesel generators. So before giving me fiber to the home, we should give power (and potable water, for that matter), to those communities first. So we need to discuss international connectivity. (How else could we consider those communities than peer nations anyways?c) Qu bec has virtually zero international links. Even in Montr al, which likes to style itself a major player in gaming, AI, and technology, most peering goes through either Toronto or New York. That's a problem that we must fix, regardless of the other problems stated here. Looking at the submarine cable map, we see very few international links actually landing in Canada. There is the Greenland connect which connects Newfoundland to Iceland through Greenland. There's the EXA which lands in Ireland, the UK and the US, and Google has the Topaz link on the west coast. That's about it, and none of those land anywhere near any major urban center in Qu bec. We should have a cable running from France up to Saint-F licien. There should be a cable from Vancouver to China. Heck, there should be a fiber cable running all the way from the end of the great lakes through Qu bec, then up around the northern passage and back down to British Columbia. Those cables are expensive, and the idea might sound ludicrous, but Russia is actually planning such a project for 2026. The US has cables running all the way up (and around!) Alaska, neatly bypassing all of Canada in the process. We just look ridiculous on that map. (Addendum: I somehow forgot to talk about Teleglobe here was founded as publicly owned company in 1950, growing international phone and (later) data links all over the world. It was privatized by the conservatives in 1984, along with rails and other "crown corporations". So that's one major risk to any effort to make public utilities work properly: some government might be elected and promptly sell it out to its friends for peanuts.)

Wireless networks I know most people will have rolled their eyes so far back their heads have exploded. But I'm not done yet. I want wireless too. And by wireless, I don't mean a bunch of geeks setting up OpenWRT routers on rooftops. I tried that, and while it was fun and educational, it didn't scale. A public networking utility wouldn't be complete without providing cellular phone service. This involves bidding for frequencies at the federal level, and deploying a rather large amount of infrastructure, but it could be a later phase, when the engineers and politicians have proven their worth. At least part of the Rogers fiasco would have been averted if such a decentralized network backend existed. One might even want to argue that a separate institution should be setup to provide phone services, independently from the regular wired networking, if only for reliability. Because remember here: the problem we're trying to solve is not just technical, it's about political boundaries, centralisation, and automation. If everything is ran by this one organisation again, we will have failed. However, I must admit that phone services is where my ideas fall a little short. I can't help but think it's also an accessible goal maybe starting with a virtual operator but it seems slightly less so than the others, especially considering how closed the phone ecosystem is.

Counter points In debating these ideas while writing this article, the following objections came up.

I don't want the state to control my internet One legitimate concern I have about the idea of the state running the internet is the potential it would have to censor or control the content running over the wires. But I don't think there is necessarily a direct relationship between resource ownership and control of content. Sure, China has strong censorship in place, partly implemented through state-controlled businesses. But Russia also has strong censorship in place, based on regulatory tools: they force private service providers to install back-doors in their networks to control content and surveil their users. Besides, the USA have been doing warrantless wiretapping since at least 2003 (and yes, that's 10 years before the Snowden revelations) so a commercial internet is no assurance that we have a free internet. Quite the contrary in fact: if anything, the commercial internet goes hand in hand with the neo-colonial internet, just like businesses did in the "good old colonial days". Large media companies are the primary censors of content here. In Canada, the media cartel requested the first site-blocking order in 2018. The plaintiffs (including Qu becor, Rogers, and Bell Canada) are both content providers and internet service providers, an obvious conflict of interest. Nevertheless, there are some strong arguments against having a centralised, state-owned monopoly on internet service providers. FDN makes a good point on this. But this is not what I am suggesting: at the provincial level, the network would be purely physical, and regional entities (which could include private companies) would peer over that physical network, ensuring decentralization. Delegating the management of that infrastructure to an independent non-profit or cooperative (but owned by the state) would also ensure some level of independence.

Isn't the government incompetent and corrupt? Also known as "private enterprise is better skilled at handling this, the state can't do anything right" I don't think this is a "fait accomplit". If anything, I have found publicly ran utilities to be spectacularly reliable here. I rarely have trouble with sewage, water, or power, and keep in mind I live in a city where we receive about 2 meters of snow a year, which tend to create lots of trouble with power lines. Unless there's a major weather event, power just runs here. I think the same can happen with an internet service provider. But it would certainly need to have higher standards to what we're used to, because frankly Internet is kind of janky.

A single monopoly will be less reliable I actually agree with that, but that is not what I am proposing anyways. Current commercial or non-profit entities will be free to offer their services on top of the public network. And besides, the current "ha! diversity is great" approach is exactly what we have now, and it's not working. The pretense that we can have competition over a single network is what led the US into the ridiculous situation where they also pretend to have competition over the power utility market. This led to massive forest fires in California and major power outages in Texas. It doesn't work.

Wouldn't this create an isolated network? One theory is that this new network would be so hostile to incumbent telcos and ISPs that they would simply refuse to network with the public utility. And while it is true that the telcos currently do also act as a kind of "tier one" provider in some places, I strongly feel this is also a problem that needs to be solved, regardless of ownership of networking infrastructure. Right now, telcos often hold both ends of the stick: they are the gateway to users, the "last mile", but they also provide peering to the larger internet in some locations. In at least one datacenter in downtown Montr al, I've seen traffic go through Bell Canada that was not directly targeted at Bell customers. So in effect, they are in a position of charging twice for the same traffic, and that's not only ridiculous, it should just be plain illegal. And besides, this is not a big problem: there are other providers out there. As bad as the market is in Qu bec, there is still some diversity in Tier one providers that could allow for some exits to the wider network (e.g. yes, Cogent is here too).

What about Google and Facebook? Nationalization of other service providers like Google and Facebook is out of scope of this discussion. That said, I am not sure the state should get into the business of organising the web or providing content services however, but I will point out it already does do some of that through its own websites. It should probably keep itself to this, and also consider providing normal services for people who don't or can't access the internet. (And I would also be ready to argue that Google and Facebook already act as extensions of the state: certainly if Facebook didn't exist, the CIA or the NSA would like to create it at this point. And Google has lucrative business with the US department of defense.)

What does not work So we've seen one thing that could work. Maybe it's too expensive. Maybe the political will isn't there. Maybe it will fail. We don't know yet. But we know what does not work, and it's what we've been doing ever since the internet has gone commercial.

Legal pressure and regulation In 1984 (of all years), the US Department of Justice finally broke up AT&T in half a dozen corporations, after a 10 year legal battle. Yet a decades later, we're back to only three large providers doing essentially what AT&T was doing back then, and those are regional monopolies: AT&T, Verizon, and Lumen (not counting T-Mobile that is from a different breed). So the legal approach really didn't work that well, especially considering the political landscape changed in the US, and the FTC seems perfectly happy to let those major mergers continue. In Canada, we never even pretended we would solve this problem at all: Bell Canada (the literal "father" of AT&T) is in the same situation now. We have either a regional monopoly (e.g. Videotron for cable in Qu bec) or an oligopoly (Bell, Rogers, and Telus controlling more than 90% of the market). Telus does have one competitor in the west of Canada, Shaw, but Rogers has been trying to buy it out. The competition bureau seems to have blocked the merger for now, but it didn't stop other recent mergers like Bell's acquisition one of its main competitors in Qu bec, eBox. Regulation doesn't seem capable of ensuring those profitable corporations provide us with decent pricing, which makes Canada one of the most expensive countries (research) for mobile data on the planet. The recent failure of the CRTC to properly protect smaller providers has even lead to price hikes. Meanwhile the oligopoly is actually agreeing on their own price hikes therefore becoming a real cartel, complete with price fixing and reductions in output. There are actually regulations in Canada supposed to keep the worst of the Rogers outage from happening at all. According to CBC:

Under Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) rules in place since 2017, telecom networks are supposed to ensure that cellphones are able to contact 911 even if they do not have service.

I could personally confirm that my phone couldn't reach 911 services, because all calls would fail: the problem was that towers were still up, so your phone wouldn't fall back to alternative service providers (which could have resolved the issue). I can only speculate as to why Rogers didn't take cell phone towers out of the network to let phones work properly for 911 service, but it seems like a dangerous game to play. Hilariously, the CRTC itself didn't have a reliable phone service due to the service outage:

Please note that our phone lines are affected by the Rogers network outage. Our website is still available: https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/contact/

https://mobile.twitter.com/CRTCeng/status/1545421218534359041 I wonder if they will file a complaint against Rogers themselves about this. I probably should. It seems the federal government is thinking more of the same medicine will fix the problem and has told companies should "help" each other in an emergency. I doubt this will fix anything, and could actually make things worse if the competitors actually interoperate more, as it could cause multi-provider, cascading failures.

Subsidies The absurd price we pay for data does not actually mean everyone gets high speed internet at home. Large swathes of the Qu bec countryside don't get broadband at all, and it can be difficult or expensive, even in large urban centers like Montr al, to get high speed internet. That is despite having a series of subsidies that all avoided investing in our own infrastructure. We had the "fonds de l'autoroute de l'information", "information highway fund" (site dead since 2003, archive.org link) and "branchez les familles", "connecting families" (site dead since 2003, archive.org link) which subsidized the development of a copper network. In 2014, more of the same: the federal government poured hundreds of millions of dollars into a program called connecting Canadians to connect 280 000 households to "high speed internet". And now, the federal and provincial governments are proudly announcing that "everyone is now connected to high speed internet", after pouring more than 1.1 billion dollars to connect, guess what, another 380 000 homes, right in time for the provincial election. Of course, technically, the deadline won't actually be met until 2023. Qu bec is a big area to cover, and you can guess what happens next: the telcos threw up their hand and said some areas just can't be connected. (Or they connect their CEO but not the poor folks across the lake.) The story then takes the predictable twist of giving more money out to billionaires, subsidizing now Musk's Starlink system to connect those remote areas. To give a concrete example: a friend who lives about 1000km away from Montr al, 4km from a small, 2500 habitant village, has recently got symmetric 100 mbps fiber at home from Telus, thanks to those subsidies. But I can't get that service in Montr al at all, presumably because Telus and Bell colluded to split that market. Bell doesn't provide me with such a service either: they tell me they have "fiber to my neighborhood", and only offer me a 25/10 mbps ADSL service. (There is Vid otron offering 400mbps, but that's copper cable, again a dead technology, and asymmetric.)

Conclusion Remember Chattanooga? Back in 2010, they funded the development of a fiber network, and now they have deployed a network roughly a thousand times faster than what we have just funded with a billion dollars. In 2010, I was paying Bell Canada 60$/mth for 20mbps and a 125GB cap, and now, I'm still (indirectly) paying Bell for roughly the same speed (25mbps). Back then, Bell was throttling their competitors networks until 2009, when they were forced by the CRTC to stop throttling. Both Bell and Vid otron still explicitly forbid you from running your own servers at home, Vid otron charges prohibitive prices which make it near impossible for resellers to sell uncapped services. Those companies are not spurring innovation: they are blocking it. We have spent all this money for the private sector to build us a private internet, over decades, without any assurance of quality, equity or reliability. And while in some locations, ISPs did deploy fiber to the home, they certainly didn't upgrade their entire network to follow suit, and even less allowed resellers to compete on that network. In 10 years, when 100mbps will be laughable, I bet those service providers will again punt the ball in the public courtyard and tell us they don't have the money to upgrade everyone's equipment. We got screwed. It's time to try something new.

Updates There was a discussion about this article on Hacker News which was surprisingly productive. Trigger warning: Hacker News is kind of right-wing, in case you didn't know. Since this article was written, at least two more major acquisitions happened, just in Qu bec:

• Bell acquired Distributel
• Qu becor acquired vMedia

In the latter case, vMedia was explicitly saying it couldn't grow because of "lack of access to capital". So basically, we have given those companies a billion dollars, and they are not using that very money to buy out their competition. At least we could have given that money to small players to even out the playing field. But this is not how that works at all. Also, in a bizarre twist, an "analyst" believes the acquisition is likely to help Rogers acquire Shaw. Also, since this article was written, the Washington Post published a review of a book bringing similar ideas: Internet for the People The Fight for Our Digital Future, by Ben Tarnoff, at Verso books. It's short, but even more ambitious than what I am suggesting in this article, arguing that all big tech companies should be broken up and better regulated:

He pulls from Ethan Zuckerman s idea of a web that is plural in purpose that just as pool halls, libraries and churches each have different norms, purposes and designs, so too should different places on the internet. To achieve this, Tarnoff wants governments to pass laws that would make the big platforms unprofitable and, in their place, fund small-scale, local experiments in social media design. Instead of having platforms ruled by engagement-maximizing algorithms, Tarnoff imagines public platforms run by local librarians that include content from public media.

(Links mine: the Washington Post obviously prefers to not link to the real web, and instead doesn't link to Zuckerman's site all and suggests Amazon for the book, in a cynical example.) And in another example of how the private sector has failed us, there was recently a fluke in the AMBER alert system where the entire province was warned about a loose shooter in Saint-Elz ar except the people in the town, because they have spotty cell phone coverage. In other words, millions of people received a strongly toned, "life-threatening", alert for a city sometimes hours away, except the people most vulnerable to the alert. Not missing a beat, the CAQ party is promising more of the same medicine again and giving more money to telcos to fix the problem, suggesting to spend three billion dollars in private infrastructure.

Changes in Rcpp hotfix release version 1.0.9 (2022-07-02)

• Changes in Rcpp API:
  • Accomodate C++98 compilation by adjusting attributes.cpp (Dirk in #1193 fixing #1192)
  • Accomodate newest compilers replacing deprecated std::unary_function and std::binary_function with std::function (Dirk in #1202 fixing #1201 and CRAN request)
  • Upon removal from precious list, the tag is set to null (I aki in #1205 fixing #1203)
  • Move constructor and assignment for strings have been added (Dean Scarff in #1219).
• Changes in Rcpp Documentation:
  • Adjust one overflowing column (Bill Denney in #1196 fixing #1195)
  • Correct a typo in the FAQ (Marco Colombo in #1217)
• Changes in Rcpp Deployment:
  • Accomodate four digit version numbers in unit test (Dirk)
  • Do not run complete test suite to limit test time to CRAN preference (Dirk in #1206)
  • Small updates to the CI test containers have been made
  • Some of changes also applied to an interim release 1.0.8.3 made for CRAN on 2022-03-14.

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Changes in RcppArmadillo version 0.11.1.1.0 (2022-05-15)

• Upgraded to Armadillo release 11.1.1 (Angry Kitchen Appliance)
  • added inv_opts::no_ugly option to inv() and inv_sympd() to disallow inverses of poorly conditioned matrices
  • more efficient handling of rank-deficient matrices via inv_opts::allow_approx option in inv() and inv_sympd()
  • better detection of rank deficient matrices by solve()
  • faster handling of symmetric and diagonal matrices by cond()
• The configure script again propagates the'found' case again, thanks to Justin Silverman for the heads-up and suggested fix (Dirk and Justin in #376 and #377 fixing #375).

Changes in RcppArmadillo version 0.11.0.1.0 (2022-04-14)

• Upgraded to Armadillo release 11.0.1 (Creme Brulee)
  • fix miscompilation of inv() and inv_sympd() functions when using inv_opts::allow_approx and inv_opts::tiny options

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Changes in Rcpp hotfix release version 1.0.8.3 (2022-03-14)

• Changes in Rcpp API:
  • Accomodate C++98 compilation by adjusting attributes.cpp (Dirk in #1193 fixing #1192)
  • Accomodate newest compilers replacing deprecated std::unary_function and std::binary_function with std::function (Dirk in #1202 fixing #1201 and CRAN request)
• Changes in Rcpp Documentation:
  • Adjust one overflowing column (Bill Denney in #1196 fixing #1195)
• Changes in Rcpp Deployment:
  • Accomodate four digit version numbers in unit test (Dirk)
  • Do not run complete test suite to limit test time to CRAN preference (Dirk)

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Changes in Rcpp hotfix release version 1.0.8.2 (2022-03-10)

• Changes in Rcpp API:
  • Accomodate C++98 compilation by adjusting attributes.cpp (Dirk in #1193 fixing #1192)
  • Accomodate newest compilers replacing deprecated std::unary_function and std::binary_function with std::function (Dirk in #1202 fixing #1201 and CRAN request)
• Changes in Rcpp Documentation:
  • Adjust one overflowing column (Bill Denney in #1196 fixing #1195)
• Changes in Rcpp Deployment:
  • Accomodate four digit version numbers in unit test (Dirk)

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