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5 December 2021

Reproducible Builds: Reproducible Builds in November 2021

Welcome to the November 2021 report from the Reproducible Builds project. As a quick recap, whilst anyone may inspect the source code of free software for malicious flaws, almost all software is distributed to end users as pre-compiled binaries. The motivation behind the reproducible builds effort is therefore to ensure no flaws have been introduced during this compilation process by promising identical results are always generated from a given source, thus allowing multiple third-parties to come to a consensus on whether a build was compromised. If you are interested in contributing to our project, please visit our Contribute page on our website.
On November 6th, Vagrant Cascadian presented at this year s edition of the SeaGL conference, giving a talk titled Debugging Reproducible Builds One Day at a Time:
I ll explore how I go about identifying issues to work on, learn more about the specific issues, recreate the problem locally, isolate the potential causes, dissect the problem into identifiable parts, and adapt the packaging and/or source code to fix the issues.
A video recording of the talk is available on archive.org.
Fedora Magazine published a post written by Zbigniew J drzejewski-Szmek about how to Use Diffoscope in packager workflows, specifically around ensuring that new versions of a package do not introduce breaking changes:
In the role of a packager, updating packages is a recurring task. For some projects, a packager is involved in upstream maintenance, or well written release notes make it easy to figure out what changed between the releases. This isn t always the case, for instance with some small project maintained by one or two people somewhere on GitHub, and it can be useful to verify what exactly changed. Diffoscope can help determine the changes between package releases. [ ]

kpcyrd announced the release of rebuilderd version 0.16.3 on our mailing list this month, adding support for builds to generate multiple artifacts at once.
Lastly, we held another IRC meeting on November 30th. As mentioned in previous reports, due to the global events throughout 2020 etc. there will be no in-person summit event this year.

diffoscope diffoscope is our in-depth and content-aware diff utility. Not only can it locate and diagnose reproducibility issues, it can provide human-readable diffs from many kinds of binary formats. This month, Chris Lamb made the following changes, including preparing and uploading versions 190, 191, 192, 193 and 194 to Debian:
  • New features:
    • Continue loading a .changes file even if the referenced files do not exist, but include a comment in the returned diff. [ ]
    • Log the reason if we cannot load a Debian .changes file. [ ]
  • Bug fixes:
    • Detect XML files as XML files if file(1) claims if they are XML files or if they are named .xml. (#999438)
    • Don t duplicate file lists at each directory level. (#989192)
    • Don t raise a traceback when comparing nested directories with non-directories. [ ]
    • Re-enable test_android_manifest. [ ]
    • Don t reject Debian .changes files if they contain non-printable characters. [ ]
  • Codebase improvements:
    • Avoid aliasing variables if we aren t going to use them. [ ]
    • Use isinstance over type. [ ]
    • Drop a number of unused imports. [ ]
    • Update a bunch of %-style string interpolations into f-strings or str.format. [ ]
    • When pretty-printing JSON, mark the difference as being reformatted, additionally avoiding including the full path. [ ]
    • Import itertools top-level module directly. [ ]
Chris Lamb also made an update to the command-line client to trydiffoscope, a web-based version of the diffoscope in-depth and content-aware diff utility, specifically only waiting for 2 minutes for try.diffoscope.org to respond in tests. (#998360) In addition Brandon Maier corrected an issue where parts of large diffs were missing from the output [ ], Zbigniew J drzejewski-Szmek fixed some logic in the assert_diff_startswith method [ ] and Mattia Rizzolo updated the packaging metadata to denote that we support both Python 3.9 and 3.10 [ ] as well as a number of warning-related changes[ ][ ]. Vagrant Cascadian also updated the diffoscope package in GNU Guix [ ][ ].

Distribution work In Debian, Roland Clobus updated the wiki page documenting Debian reproducible Live images to mention some new bug reports and also posted an in-depth status update to our mailing list. In addition, 90 reviews of Debian packages were added, 18 were updated and 23 were removed this month adding to our knowledge about identified issues. Chris Lamb identified a new toolchain issue, absolute_path_in_cmake_file_generated_by_meson.
Work has begun on classifying reproducibility issues in packages within the Arch Linux distribution. Similar to the analogous effort within Debian (outlined above), package information is listed in a human-readable packages.yml YAML file and a sibling README.md file shows how to classify packages too. Finally, Bernhard M. Wiedemann posted his monthly reproducible builds status report for openSUSE and Vagrant Cascadian updated a link on our website to link to the GNU Guix reproducibility testing overview [ ].

Software development The Reproducible Builds project detects, dissects and attempts to fix as many currently-unreproducible packages as possible. We endeavour to send all of our patches upstream where appropriate. This month, we wrote a large number of such patches, including: Elsewhere, in software development, Jonas Witschel updated strip-nondeterminism, our tool to remove specific non-deterministic results from a completed build so that it did not fail on JAR archives containing invalid members with a .jar extension [ ]. This change was later uploaded to Debian by Chris Lamb. reprotest is the Reproducible Build s project end-user tool to build the same source code twice in widely different environments and checking whether the binaries produced by the builds have any differences. This month, Mattia Rizzolo overhauled the Debian packaging [ ][ ][ ] and fixed a bug surrounding suffixes in the Debian package version [ ], whilst Stefano Rivera fixed an issue where the package tests were broken after the removal of diffoscope from the package s strict dependencies [ ].

Testing framework The Reproducible Builds project runs a testing framework at tests.reproducible-builds.org, to check packages and other artifacts for reproducibility. This month, the following changes were made:
  • Holger Levsen:
    • Document the progress in setting up snapshot.reproducible-builds.org. [ ]
    • Add the packages required for debian-snapshot. [ ]
    • Make the dstat package available on all Debian based systems. [ ]
    • Mark virt32b-armhf and virt64b-armhf as down. [ ]
  • Jochen Sprickerhof:
    • Add SSH authentication key and enable access to the osuosl168-amd64 node. [ ][ ]
  • Mattia Rizzolo:
    • Revert reproducible Debian: mark virt(32 64)b-armhf as down - restored. [ ]
  • Roland Clobus (Debian live image generation):
    • Rename sid internally to unstable until an issue in the snapshot system is resolved. [ ]
    • Extend testing to include Debian bookworm too.. [ ]
    • Automatically create the Jenkins view to display jobs related to building the Live images. [ ]
  • Vagrant Cascadian:
    • Add a Debian package set group for the packages and tools maintained by the Reproducible Builds maintainers themselves. [ ]


If you are interested in contributing to the Reproducible Builds project, please visit our Contribute page on our website. However, you can get in touch with us via:

30 November 2016

Arturo Borrero Gonz lez: Creating a team for netfilter packages in debian

Debian - Netfilter There are about 15 Netfilter packages in Debian, and they are maintained by separate people. Yersterday, I contacted the maintainers of the main packages to propose the creation of a pkg-netfilter team to maintain all the packages together. The benefits of maintaining packages in a team is already known to all, and I would expect to rise the overall quality of the packages due to this movement. By now, the involved packages and maintainers are: We should probably ping Jochen Friedrich as well who maintains arptables and ebtables. Also, there are some other non-official Netfilter packages, like iptables-persistent. I m undecided to what to do with them, as my primary impulse is to only put in the team upstream packages. Given the release of Stretch is just some months ahead, the creation of this packaging team will happen after the release, so we don t have any hurry moving things now.

3 September 2016

Bits from Debian: New Debian Developers and Maintainers (July and August 2016)

The following contributors got their Debian Developer accounts in the last two months: The following contributors were added as Debian Maintainers in the last two months: Congratulations!

1 August 2016

Uwe Kleine-K nig: Fixing Debian bug #794266

After finally being able to fix Debian bug #794266 I want to thank those who made this possible: Some time ago my colleague Bj rn offered an Arietta G25 to me. After Jochen, another colleague, helped me to solder pin headers on it, this machine served as host computer for my tests. As I didn't have a machine with the relevant RTC chip, I contacted Seiko Instruments and they provided me a few chips including oscillators. It was again Jochen who then created a break-out board from these components that I could wire to my Arietta board. Finally Wolfram Sang's i2ctransfer helped me a lot to access and so understand the chip. It's has not landed in i2c-tools.git, but I hope this will change soon given that this is a really useful tool. A big thank you to all who helped me. It was fun and would have been less so without your efforts!

3 January 2016

Lunar: Reproducible builds: week 35 in Stretch cycle

What happened in the reproducible builds effort between December 20th to December 26th: Toolchain fixes Mattia Rizzolo rebased our experimental versions of debhelper (twice!) and dpkg on top of the latest releases. Reiner Herrmann submited a patch for mozilla-devscripts to sort the file list in generated preferences.js files. To be able to lift the restriction that packages must be built in the same path, translation support for the __FILE__ C pre-processor macro would also be required. Joerg Sonnenberger submitted a patch back in 2010 that would still be useful today. Chris Lamb started work on providing a deterministic mode for debootstrap. Packages fixed The following packages have become reproducible due to changes in their build dependencies: bouncycastle, cairo-dock-plug-ins, darktable, gshare, libgpod, pafy, ruby-redis-namespace, ruby-rouge, sparkleshare. The following packages became reproducible after getting fixed: Some uploads fixed some reproducibility issues, but not all of them: Patches submitted which have not made their way to the archive yet: reproducible.debian.net Statistics for package sets are now visible for the armhf architecture. (h01ger) The second build now has a longer timeout (18 hours) than the first build (12 hours). This should prevent wasting resources when a machine is loaded. (h01ger) Builds of Arch Linux packages are now done using a tmpfs. (h01ger) 200 GiB have been added to jenkins.debian.net (thanks to ProfitBricks!) to make room for new jobs. The current count is at 962 and growing! diffoscope development Aside from some minor bugs that have been fixed, a one-line change made huge memory (and time) savings as the output of transformation tool is now streamed line by line instead of loaded entirely in memory at once. disorderfs development Andrew Ayer released disorderfs version 0.4.2-1 on December 22th. It fixes a memory corruption error when processing command line arguments that could cause command line options to be ignored. Documentation update Many small improvements for the documentation on reproducible-builds.org sent by Georg Koppen were merged. Package reviews 666 (!) reviews have been removed, 189 added and 162 updated in the previous week. 151 new fail to build from source reports have been made by Chris West, Chris Lamb, Mattia Rizzolo, and Niko Tyni. New issues identified: unsorted_filelist_in_xul_ext_preferences, nondeterminstic_output_generated_by_moarvm. Misc. Steven Chamberlain drew our attention to one analysis of the Juniper ScreenOS Authentication Backdoor: Whilst this may have been added in source code, it was well-disguised in the disassembly and just 7 instructions long. I thought this was a good example of the current state-of-the-art, and why we'd like our binaries and eventually, installer and VM images reproducible IMHO. Joanna Rutkowska has mentioned possible ways for Qubes to become reproducible on their development mailing-list.

24 January 2013

Hideki Yamane: net-snmp package

Current net-snmp package maintainers are busy, so now I'm trying to update it. One of maintainers Jochen Friedrich kindly checked my experimental package (thank!), and point MIB files should be removed to upload to Debian out (at least).

Anyway, current changelog is here (a little bit long). If you want to try it, get dsc file and build it.


net-snmp (5.7.2~dfsg-1~0.1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
* Non-maintainer upload.
* New upstream version 5.7.2 (Closes: #557348, #631063, #684388, #599929,
#673197, #581185, #558356, #568550, #514842, #445608, #557186, #411858,
#428824, #611837)
* debian/control
- set "Standards-Version: 3.9.4"
- set "Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 9)" to enable hardening
- set "Build-Depends: automake", instead of automake1.9
- drop "Build-Depends: python-central", use dh_python2 by default, instead
- remove duplicational "Priority:" and "Section:" fields
- make it "Multi-Arch" enable
- add description for non-free snmp-mibs-downloader for users' convinience
(Closes: #561124)
- add "Build-Depends: libmysqld-dev" to support MySQL
- add "Build-Depends: dh-autoreconf"
- use python-all (2.6.6-3~) instead of python-all-dev (>= 2.5.4-1~), python
(>=2.3.5-7) for Build-Depends
- add "Build-Depends: python2.7-dev"
- s/libsnmp-python/python-netsnmp/ as Python Policy compliant (Closes: #661899)
* debian/compat
- set 9
* debian/*.install
- split into *.manpages
* debian/fixman: drop it.
* debian/*.manpages (Closes: #505149)
- remove unnecessary"snmp" from tail of all man pages
* debian/libsnmp-base.install
- move /usr/share/mibs to /usr/share/snmp/mibs (probably, previous setting
was just wrong...)
- install all mibs/*.txt
* debian/libsnmp-dev.install
- change from "usr/lib/*" to "usr/lib/*/*" to deal with Multi-Arch
* debian/libsnmp30.install
- change from "usr/lib/*.so" to "usr/lib/*/*.so" to deal with Multi-Arch
* debian/snmp.dirs: remove it since unnecessary
* debian/snmpd.dirs: remove lintian overrides direcotry, add /etc/snmp
* debian/libsnmp-dev.dirs: add it
* debian/libsnmp-perl.examples: add it since dh_installexamples target in
previous debian/rules doesn't work correctly.
* debian/patches
- remove all *.README files
- add fix_typo_in_snmpd.conf.patch (Closes: #603593)
Thanks to Slavko <linux@slavino.sk>
- add fix_logging_option.patch (Closes: #616437)
- add fix_snmpcheck_perl_path.patch to provide snmpcheck (Closes: #44373)
- add net-snmp-config_multi-arch.patch to enable Multi-Arch
- add fix_regular_expression.patch enable to build under Multi-Arch
- add to snmptranslate.1.patch fix lintian "hyphen-used-as-minus-sign"
warnings
- add fix_spelling_error.patch to fix typo
- adjust and refresh 03_makefiles.patch
- drop 25_duplicate_iftable.patch and 44_nlist_kvm.patch since it cannot be
applied to current code.
- drop 32_mnttab_path.patch since it was merged to upstream as
configure.d/config_os_misc4
- drop 56_manpage.patch since most of patches are merged, and others are
unnecessary because upstream files are disappeared.
- refresh 61_vacm_missing_dependency_check.patch
- drop 63_fix_shell.patch since it was merged to upstream
- reapplied 64_missing_lib.patch since upstream source has been changed.
- drop 65_CVE-2012-2141.patch since it was merged to upstream
- drop 66_formatstrings.patch since almost merged to upstream, some of
code are changed in upstream and become unnecessary.
- move 08_defaultconfig.patch to debian/snmptrapd.conf
* debian/rules
- enable hardening
(TODO: building perl module would be failed without -pie)
- specify LDFLAGS to enable hardening
- add "--with autotools-dev,autoreconf"
- export DEB_BUILD_MAINT_OPTIONS to enable hardening
- drop "dh --with python-central" (Closes: #616913)
- drop "include /usr/share/python/python.mk"
- remove "$(PYVERS:%=debian/python-install-stamp-%)"
- move exist python targets under override_dh_install
- remove unnecessary .PHONY lines
- enable tests by removing no instructions with dh_auto_test line
- set DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH to enable Multi-Arch
- enable install snmpcheck
- don't specify to copy files but install them by using .install file
(mostly)
- enable mysql support
- enable AES support (Closes: #447705)
- don't make symlink for /usr/share/doc/libsnmp-perl since other are okay
but it has examples files.
- snmpd doc files link to libsnmp (Closes: #453124)
- adjust dh_strip for dbg package.
- adjust dh_clean target
- remove override_dh_auto_build since LD_RUN_PATH is clearly specified
during building perl modules
- add mibII/mta_sendmail to build modules (Closes: #641608)
* debian/clean
- most listed files are cared by autotools-dev, so removed.
* debian/snmp.conf: fix typo (Closes: #623499, #647468)
* debian/snmpd.init
- force remove pid files (Closes: #528104)

-- Hideki Yamane <henrich@debian.org> Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:39:41 +0900

And if I can put it to Debian, then I hope someone will maintain it...

28 March 2011

R&#233;mi Vanicat: Booting rarely used os

For some time, I was looking for a way to change grub default entry for only one boot. I want to tell it that next time it should boot the entry 0, and the time after that, use the usual default (the entry 1). Founding documention for this is not as easy at it should, and the information on the debian wiki wasn't clear enough for me to understand. So I edit the wiki page to make clear that grub-reboot also available for those using grub2, and that it will only configure the boot, but not reboot the computer itself. As each time I wrote some text in English, I'm not sure my version correctly transmit my meaning. By the way, I'm changing my blog. The old one contain a post on my search of a solution for this. Thanks to stbuehler and Jochen for the indication leading to the correct solution for this. Thanks also to Vadim Solomin for a patch to make pm-hibernate notice the configured method for shutting-down the computer.

24 September 2008

Lucas Nussbaum: Cool stats about Debian bugs

Now that bug #500000 has been reported, let’s have a look at all our other bugs, using UDD. Number of archived bugs:
select count(*) from archived_bugs;
 count
--------
 402826
Number of unarchived bugs marked done:
select count(*) from bugs where status = 'done';
 count
-------
  8267
Status of unarchived bugs (”pending” doesn’t mean “tagged pending” here):
select status, count(*) from bugs group by status;
    status       count
---------------+-------
 pending         53587
 pending-fixed    1195
 forwarded        6778
 done             8267
 fixed             167
The sum isn’t even close to 500000. That’s because quite a lot of bugs disappeared:
select id from bugs union select id from archived_bugs order by id limit 10;
 id
-----
 563
 660
 710
 725
 740
 773
 775
 783
 817
 819
Now, let’s look at our open bugs.
Oldest open bugs:
select id, package, title, arrival from bugs where status != 'done' order by id limit 10;
  id       package                                         title                                            arrival
------+----------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+---------------------
  825   trn              trn warning messages corrupt thread selector display                         1995-04-22 18:33:01
 1555   dselect          dselect per-screen-half focus request                                        1995-10-06 15:48:04
 2297   xterm            xterm: xterm sometimes gets mouse-paste and RETURN keypress in wrong order   1996-02-07 21:33:01
 2298   trn              trn bug with shell escaping                                                  1996-02-07 21:48:01
 3175   xonix            xonix colors bad for colorblind                                              1996-05-31 23:18:04
 3180   linuxdoc-tools   linuxdoc-sgml semantics and formatting problems                              1996-06-02 05:18:03
 3251   acct             accounting file corruption                                                   1996-06-12 17:44:10
 3773   xless            xless default window too thin and won't go away when asked nicely            1996-07-14 00:03:09
 4073   make             make pattern rules delete intermediate files                                 1996-08-08 20:18:01
 4448   dselect          [PERF] dselect performance gripe (disk method doing dpkg -iGROEB)            1996-09-09 03:33:05
Breakdown by severity:
select severity, count(*) from bugs where status != 'done' group by severity;
 severity    count
-----------+-------
 normal      27680
 important    7606
 minor        6921
 wishlist    18898
 critical       29
 grave         209
 serious       384
Top 10 submitters for open bugs:
select submitter, count(*) from bugs where status != 'done' group by submitter order by count desc limit 10;
submitter                        count
----------------------------------------------------+-------
 Dan Jacobson                     1455
 martin f krafft                    667
 Raphael Geissert                    422
 Joey Hess                            392
 Marc Haber                368
 Julien Danjou                         342
 Josh Triplett                    331
 Vincent Lefevre                    296
 jidanni@jidanni.org                                    260
 Justin Pryzby      245
Top bugs reporters ever:
select submitter, count(*) from (select * from bugs union select * from archived_bugs) as all_bugs
group by submitter order by count desc limit 10;
                  submitter                     count
----------------------------------------------+-------
 Martin Michlmayr                4279
 Dan Jacobson               3652
 Daniel Schepler     3045
 Joey Hess                     2836
 Lucas Nussbaum        2701
 Andreas Jochens                   2605
 Matthias Klose            2442
 Christian Perrier           2302
 James Troup                   2198
 Matt Zimmerman                  2027
You want more data? Connect to UDD (from master.d.o or alioth.d.o, more info here), run your own queries, and post them with the results in the comments!

4 September 2006

Margarita Manterola: RC bug-squashing second-week

So, last week was a bit bumpy since I was sick for a couple of days, and then had a power outage on Friday and Saturday, thus not being able to keep up with my daily RC bug fixing, but I've been catching up since then. I've uploaded patches done by Arjan Oosting, for packages that wouldn't compile with autoconf2.6: #379812 (kde-style-polyester), #379813 (kxmleditor) and #379815 (klog).

I uploaded a patch by Mart n Ferrari for lilo: #374477 (use MAKEDEV instead of mknod at postinst), and another patch by Mart n for courier-authlib #378571 (fixing the permissions of /var/run/courier/authdaemon).

I uploaded a patch by Andreas Jochens for ntlmaps: #379700 (fixing the build-dependency). A patch by Luca Bruno for predict: #379495 (fixing a change of location of forms.h). And a patch by Mike O'Connor for stardict: #379152 (fixing a misuse of size_t that made it fail in 64bit architectures).
Stardict had a problem with rpath that made me get to know the LIBTOOL_IS_A_FOOL hack, and I had to apply that, so that the binaries were not screwed up.

I also uploaded a fixed version of yacas, that included patches from Arjan Oosting (fixing #379261 and #379895) and Braun Gabor (fixing non-RC #295413). However, it's not like the only thing I've done is upload patches done by others. I've also done some patches myself: The amount of bugs currently affecting the next release is 247. It's not a secret that we are a bit behind the schedule (we should be at less than 200 bugs by now). But it's also totally possible to get back on track if we work together on fixing the current bugs and we stop uploading unneeded new releases that trigger new transitions.

3 August 2006

Arnaud Vandyck: Debian packages upload

Yesterday, I uploaded libcommons-collection3-java to add the testframework jar (bug#268223). I investigate the security alert for tomcat5 (CVE2006-3835) as mentioned by Alec Berryman in bug#380361. Alec also filed this bug for tomcat5.5 but I was not able to reproduce the attack with the releases of tomcat in Debian. I filed a removal bug for libgnujaxp-java (bug#381014) which is in GNU-Classpath for a long time now. I uploaded a new upstream of libapache(2)-mod-jk (bug#338158). Today, I uploaded libmsv-xsdlib-java (the package was prepared by Eric Lavarde, but it was refused by ftpmasters because of the license) to non-free and solved the FTBFS of libjaxp1.3-java reported by Andreas Jochens (bug#379530). Except the security alert I closed because I think they were not affected releases of tomcat in Debian, I did not investigate more bugs of tomcat. But I’ll need it for my day-time and extra jobs so I hope I’ll be working on it after augustus 15. Update: I’m trying to fix argouml in Debian and that’s a huge job (well, the whole afternoon!)!
  1. Update libtoolbar-java (new upstream + comment issue#6);
  2. Update libswidgets-java (new upstream + comment issue#1);
  3. Downgrade libgef-java to match ArgoUML development;
  4. Update ArgoUML from 0.19.6 to 0.22.beta3 (new upstream + open issue#4391 and issue#4392). The main developer of ArgoUML said in the mailing list that this release will not be that much different to the final release and the new upstream upload (plus some corrections in the package) will permit to close some bugs: bug#342200, bug#217878, bug#335294, bug#353464, bug#368244, bug#289241.
Even with all this work, argouml does not want to start on my laptop. It’s a problem loading the ‘models’. I suspect a problem with the new mdr-model that I do not build because of dependencies not documented and not DFSG free. So I uploaded every package except argouml. I updated the subversion repository so the work is not lost and I’ll review the problem as soon as possible. You can find a copy of the generated package at my Debian’s webspace (click on the argouml directory).

19 March 2006

Clint Adams: This report is flawed, but it sure is fun

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9 March 2006

MJ Ray: Rank Further Discussion High

Yet again, someone posts a misunderstanding of Further Discussion to encourage more 2 and 3 preference votes for bad decisions. This time it's Raphael Hertzog. It could be insincerity, cluelessness, dislike of voting or something else motivating him and I don't mean to suggest any reason, but please don't rank FD below options that you dislike. Any compromise found from that insincere voting will not last long. Voting closes this weekend: if you have ranked FD below options you dislike, revote now if you want to find a real compromise. As you can find if you explore Jochen Voss's paper and references linked above this section on my blog page, the best way to get a good compromise decision is if there is a good spread of options. I don't think the three presented are a very high-granularity(?) range, so FD is the best outcome if we're really divided: try to get agreement again. If it goes to FD, I intend to propose a wide range of options after the DPL campaigns end (multiple votes being discussed at once are too much of a distraction, in my opinion).

27 February 2006

MJ Ray: The FDL Position Statement Vote

I just started composing my FDL PS ballot paper. Obviously, I prefer the "1.2 doesn't follow DFSG in any combo" option, but I was again arguing with myself about how to rank the others relative to Further Discussion (FD, which I regard as "try again to get agreement" instruction). One thing I can't remember is whether ordering multiple options beneath FD has any useful effect. I browsed The Debian Voting System by Jochen Voss, but I seem to be too stupid to find the answer from it today. Looking at past tally sheets, it seems many people do order them, so probably I will too.

6 December 2005

Martin 'Joey' Schulze: Why I joined LinuxTag

In 1999 I went to LinuxTag as a Debian representative after the project has received an offer to staff a booth there. I took over the maintenance and organised the first Debian meeting in Germany. I also gave two talks during this event, one of them was even repeated on the second day. We've had a lot of fun and since this was the first meeting of Debian affiliated people in Germany, it was very interesting to connect faces to mail addresses and to learn more about the people behind a name. This LinuxTag was the last such event that took place at the University Kaiserslautern. Free projects such as KDE and Debian have been offered a booth in one building from which one could reach the lecture rooms, while company booths were located in the Mensa building with their own professional booths. It was a warm weekend and the Jolt people have supported us with cool and caffeined drinks. We had the opportunity to use a lecture room for sleeping with other project members. Klaus Knopper was supporting the network and supervised the security team, and hence, had the unfortunate job to move away all project members from their booths, out of the building or into the lecture room. I've heard, that he had a hard time, and still believes that Debian people don't need sleep. I guess we should have moved him into the lecture room for a sleep instead. This '99 LinuxTag was quite a real success. It took place at the rise of the dot com era and all people were happy about the event. There were about 7,000 visitors in total on both days. The city of Kaiserslautern has called the university several times since there were no free hotel rooms anymore. Former events happened more or less unnoticed by locals, but not anymore in 1999. After the show was over, we dismantled the booth, moved away our own equipment and left the place. However, I made the "mistake" to notice that the LinuxTag people, who have provided us such a great opportunity, still had work to do since they had to dismantle the booth system and clean the ground floor. My biggest "mistake" was that I didn't run away and have a nice evening but decided to help and ask other booth members who were still around to do the same. Having cleaned up the location quite fast was not the only result. Oliver Zendel, who was in charge of talking to the community and who offered Debian the booth, spoke to me afterwards and wondered whether I would be interested to join the team. Well, I knew how to organise stuff, can talk to people, know quite some people in the community, the LinuxTag people were a cool team, so why not. So for the event in 2000 I was in charge of the projects exhibition. In 2000 we also had to move out of the university of Kaiserslautern since 7,000 visitors were already too much for that small university and city. That's why we eventually moved to the Stuttgart fair. That was an interesting experience. It was also interesting to see how such an event can be organised by a team of friends and how the acceptance in the business world was. In Stuttgart we were able to use a small office (max. 15m ) for the entire team as working space. Two computers were installed which we were allowed to touch but not to install a real system on. Hence, Klaus brought Knoppix CDs. This was the first time that I learned about the Knoppix Live CD. Together with my notebook we've had three desks and could work. However, today I really wonder how this could have worked with so many people, but apparently it really did. Due to the need and my experience in both talking to the press and being the press I joined the LinuxTag press team and even held the final press conference, while my colleague held the opening press conference. So after all projects were happy, the show went fine and most of the office jobs were done, I prepared a press release together with others and maintained the final conference. This was also the first time LinuxTag has organised a business congress as a special extra program for business representatives. It was also the time I experienced the need for several supporters for various tasks. In that year, a dozen supporters were paid as "security" who also drove the shopping for us. Hence, I already acquired some people who supported us as volunteers. That was also the time when Benny joined the team. In 2000 the exhibition boomed and there were a lot of large dot com company booths, which was very nice because LinuxTag arose from a students association and became more and more professional, a platform for both companies and projects. It was organised just like a Free Software project and worked non-commercially. Despite several flame wars and disputes, which seem to be normal, it was organised by friends who believed of a higher goal. It was very nice and gave me a warm feeling when looking at what we have achieved. However, I had nothing to do with commercial interests, income, acquisition, invoices etc., so I may have missed a lot. This year, LinuxTag was planned to take place in one exhibition hall, but there were so many companies interested in running a booth that a second exhibition hall was later rented as well. That's why there were two adjacent halls instead of one large location. In 2001 we were using a different exhibition hall, a larger one due to the strong demand in 2000, but still at the Stuttgart fair. This time I was also in charge of the supporters and already dispatched jobs during the event. From time to time I also maintained the shuttle service to the airport to pick up speakers or take back speakers, which I've also done in 2000. This time we've had a larger office in which all of use fit and which was a nice working atmosphere. We were also able to provide more booth space to Free Software projects. In that year I've automatically taken over the office and communication with the outside world, collecting and distribution information. I don't think this was planned, but it just happened since I was able to do the job besides my other obligations. I also gave a talk about Debian, even though others in the team considered me insane for doing that as well. With a lot of help by the local user group, we were able to offer project members a cheap sleeping opportunity. The LUG acquired a gym hall during the night an cooked in the student's office "Hellblaues Nilpferd". After I've picked up Hans Reiser I went there for a snack with him before dumping him at the hotel. It was a nice atmosphere. One of the lead people for this effort, Hubert Kai er, was suddenly overtaken by death two weeks ago. In 2002 LinuxTag moved to Karlsruhe and thus to a new fair where everything had to start again from zero. We had to get acquainted with the local company and their representatives and learn how the new fairground works. The fairground was more interesting since there was a large open area between the conference site and the exhibition hall. Looking at past years, it was used by visitors. Thanks a lot to Jochen Topf from GUUG and members of the local user group KaLUG a lot of community events happened during LinuxTag. They maintained an Internet caf in the conference building and organised the legendary KaLUG party which has become a regular LinuxTag event. In addition to that I've also worked more and more and took over more areas where I noticed help was needed and that I could manage it. So it happened that I took over more work at and before LinuxTag which finally resulted in two months of work were I don't remember a day on which I've worked less than 8 hours for LinuxTag in 2005. In 2002 I worked on the coding marathon and delegated the tasks and support during LinuxTag to two other people, so it will run independent of me. Since I was the first of the team to arrive in Karlsruhe, I also built up the office and the storage. Due to the large distance I had to leave Oldenburg the day before I want to arrive in Karlsruhe, so that I was at the fairground at last at 10 o'clock on Sunday morning. Before the event a lot of issues had to be negotiated with various parties, which required quite a lot of work. Until 2004 the entire team was working in their spare time without getting paid for their LinuxTag work. The higher goal was the impulse and all of us had neglected one issue or another that wasn't important for LinuxTag. We've had some external service providers at least since 2002. The acquisition became a difficult task for students who liked to work until the morning and get up at lunch time, since many companies expect a partner that is available for them from 9 to 5. That's why Charter was eventually hired and this year ergomedia. For press work newthinking was hired. This year the social event was also organised by them. However, having two people from the board of directors being paid by the association for their LinuxTag work from April, and external service providers that were also paid, was something I considered problematic if not unfair, looking at how other people commit to LinuxTag and don't get a monetary compensation. Several people still worked a lot on LinuxTag in their spare time and had to live from something as well. It caused resentment in the team.