Search Results: "broonie"

9 February 2016

Mark Brown: Maintaining your email

One of the difficulties of being a kernel maintainer for a busy subsystem is that you will often end up getting a lot of mail that requires reading and handling which in turn requires sending a lot of mail out in reply. Some of that requires thought and careful consideration but a lot of it is quite routine and (perhaps surprisingly) there is often more challenge in doing a good job of handling these routine messages. For a long time I used to hand write every reply I sent but the problem with doing that is that sending the same message a lot of times tends to result in the messages getting more and more brief as the message becomes routine and practised. Your words become more optimised and if you ve stopped thinking about the message before you ve finished typing it then there s a desire to finish the typing and get on to the next thing. This is I think a lot of the reputation that kernel maintainers have for being terse and unhelpful comes from messages that are very practised for someone sending them all the time aren t always going to be obvious or helpful for someone who s not so intimately familiar with what s going on. The good part of it is that everyone is getting a personalised response and it s easy to insert a comment about that specific situation when you re already replying but it s not clear that the tradeoff is a good one. What I ve started doing instead for most things is keeping a set of pre-written paragraphs for common cases that I can just insert into a mail and edit as needed. Hopefully it s working well for people, it means the replies are that bit more verbose than they might otherwise be (mainly adding an explanation of why a given thing is being asked for) but can easily be adapted as needed. The one exception is the Applied, thanks mails I used to send when I apply a patch (literally just saying that). Those are now automatically generated by the script I use to sync my local git repository with kernel.org and very much more verbose:
From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: $ CCS 
Cc: $ LIST 
Subject: $ SUBJECT 
In-Reply-To: $ MSGID 
The patch
   $ TITLE 
has been applied to the $ REPO  tree at
   $ URL  $ BRANCH 
All being well this means that it will be integrated into the linux-next
tree (usually sometime in the next 24 hours) and sent to Linus during
the next merge window (or sooner if it is a bug fix), however if
problems are discovered then the patch may be dropped or reverted.
You may get further e-mails resulting from automated or manual testing
and review of the tree, please engage with people reporting problems and
send followup patches addressing any issues that are reported if needed.
(unfortunately this bit seems to be something that it s worth pointing out)
If any updates are required or you are submitting further changes they
should be sent as incremental updates against current git, existing
patches will not be replaced.
Please add any relevant lists and maintainers to the CCs when replying
to this mail.
Thanks,
Mark
(the script does try to CC relevant lists). As well as giving people more information this also means that the mails only get sent out when things actually get published to my public repositories which avoids some confusion that used to happen sometimes with people getting my replies before I d pushed, especially when I d been working with poor connectivity as often happens when travelling. On the down side it s very much an obvious form letter which some people don t like and which can make people glaze over. My hope with this is to make things easier on average for patch submitters and easier for me, feedback on the scripted e-mails appears to be good thus far and the goal with the pasted in content is that it should be less obvious that it s happening so I d expect less feedback there.

18 February 2008

Mark Brown: hope: unknown command

Due to the cheap way in which I generate cookies for e-mail messages every so often mutt ends up trying to interpret the second line of two line cookies as commands. From time to time this is what greets me when I fire it up:
$ mutt
Error in /home/broonie/.muttrc, line 261: hope: unknown command
source: errors in /home/broonie/.muttrc
Press any key to continue...

19 March 2006

Clint Adams: This report is flawed, but it sure is fun

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10 February 2006

Mark Brown: Natsemi oversized packet lockup

If you’re having trouble with a natsemi ethernet controller locking up in Linux after complaining about oversized ethernet frames like this:
eth0: Oversized(?) Ethernet frame spanned multiple buffers, entry 0x00ba8b status 0xe0000bd5.
then this patch (or a kernel version which includes it) may be useful. The patch is against 2.6.9+ versions of natsemi with NAPI support but doesn’t use the NAPI support.