Search Results: "Marcela Tiznado"

30 September 2011

Axel Beckert: Fun facts from the UDD

After spotting an upload of mira, who in turn spotted an upload of abe (the package, not an upload by me aka abe@d.o), mira (mirabilos aka tg@d.o) noticed that there are Debian packages which have same name as some Debian Developers have as login name. Of course I noticed a long time ago that there is a Debian package with my login name abe . Another well-known Debian login and former package name is amaya. But since someone else came up with that thought, too, it was time for finding the definite answer to the question which are the DD login names which also exist as Debian package names. My first try was based on the list of trusted GnuPG keys:
$ apt-cache policy $(gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --list-keys 2>/dev/null   \
                     grep   \
        	     awk -F'[<@]' ' print $2 '   \
                     sort -u) 2>/dev/null   \
                   egrep -o '^[^ :]*'
But this was not satisfying as my own name didn t show up and gpg also threw quite a lot of block reading errors (which is also the reason for redirecting STDERR). mira then had the idea of using the Ultimate Debian Database to answer this question more properly:
udd=> SELECT login, name FROM carnivore_login, carnivore_names
      WHERE AND login IN
      (SELECT package AS login FROM packages, active_dds
       WHERE packages.package=active_dds.login UNION
       SELECT source AS name FROM sources, active_dds
       WHERE sources.source=active_dds.login)
      ORDER BY login;
 login                   name
 abe     Axel Beckert
 alex    Alexander List
 alex    Alexander M. List  4402020774 9332554
 and     Andrea Veri
 ash     Albert Huang
 bam     Brian May
 ed      Ed Boraas
 ed      Ed G. Boraas [RSA Compatibility Key]
 ed      Ed G. Boraas [RSA]
 eric    Eric Dorland
 gq      Alexander GQ Gerasiov
 iml     Ian Maclaine-cross
 lunar   J r my Bobbio
 mako    Benjamin Hill
 mako    Benjamin Mako Hill
 mbr     Markus Braun
 mlt     Marcela Tiznado
 nas     Neil A. Schemenauer
 nas     Neil Schemenauer
 opal    Ola Lundkvist
 opal    Ola Lundqvist
 paco    Francisco Moya
 paul    Paul Slootman
 pino    Pino Toscano
 pyro    Brian Nelson
 stone   Fredrik Steen
(26 rows)
Interestingly tor (Tor Slettnes) is missing in this list, so it s not complete either At least I m quite sure that nobody maintains a package with his own login name as package name. :-) We also have no packages ending in -guest , so there s no chance that a package name matches an Alioth guest account either

4 August 2008

Marcela Tiznado: When did we start attacking each other?

So, I should be at DebCamp, but I'm back home after driving 800km in one day.  
Why? I still don't know.

The main reason for this post is the irrational and unilateral response I got
from the DebConf Orga Team, with no right to replica of any kind, and with
the violence and humiliation we were treated with. I've helped to make
3 DebConf's possible, and have been involved in many ways for the past years
in Debian, so this shocked me deeply.

The short story is that there was an extra bed in the room I was staying in, the
person who was suppose to be in that bed is a close friend of mine, so I asked
if someone else could use it while they weren't, since that meant I could take
the necessary equipment that I managed to get for DebConf, and also introduce
to Debian someone who is very active and well known in our local community
(and also part of the umbrella foundation used for local finance issues).
I was excited about getting there, like every year. Just to make this extra
clear, this person had already booked the full week of DebConf, just not
DebCamp, as he previously thought he couldn't attend. When he found out he
could, he was thrilled to be able to go and help setup. So, I made the mistake
of not notifying the Orga team about the switch. I did this because it truly
was harmless action, where a bed which would otherwise be wasted would get
used, and, I did not notify the Orga team because they've been very
aggressive, inflexible and unhelpful throughout the planning of the
conference. This doesn't justify it, just explains why someone who generally
is helpful decides to take the wrong path to solve something.

Up to here, nothing very exciting. What made this special, is that when one
of the organizers, Margarita Manterola, found out about the switch, instead
of coming to talk to me, even though she's known me for *years*, she went
and informed the hotel that somebody had committed a crime, and checked in
under a different name, as if me or the person that came with me where
some random stranger. All I can say is, WTF?

Let me stress this, the email that was sent out[1] twisted the facts, to the
extent that some of them are a lie, like the problem arrived at check-in,
when it actually happened while we where napping a few hours after we had
arrived, and any effort made by the Orga team with the hotel where wasted,
as it was one of them who had originally created the problem.

Instead of solving this among us as a group, and, again, "solve" is a
bureaucratic thing, because no one was being harmed, Marga decided to
actually *harm* me personally, the person who I had brought, and DebConf
as a group. What got solved? Nothing. I left, along with someone who
would of otherwise been helping out build DebConf, while the Orga team
demanded a ridiculous fee for me to stay in the hotel.
Rules are rules, I understand, but I also understand everybody listens to
downloaded music, people in Germany install[2] nmap, and a very long list
of rules that we tend not to follow because they're unreasonable or
unnecessarily complicated.
Is this really what DebConf is turning into?

All I can say is I'm very sad and shocked that the people I've worked with
for so many years decided to condemn me over such a meaningless issue, and
especially that the local team, Martin Ferrari, Damian Viano, Maximiliano
Curia and Margarita Manterola would do such thing to "one of there own",
and that the international Orga team would mindlessly follow through with it.

I apologized to the hotel, I do want to apologize to the innocent people who
had to deal with this, and, even though my intentions where good and unselfish,
I regret what happened.

Despite all of this, I'm still deeply committed to Debian, have worked during
the year and deserve to relax and enjoy it, so I will be there for DebConf
as a regular attendee.

See you there!


8 September 2007

Lior Kaplan: CcPublisher: When upstream says don t package our software

A month ago Marcela Tiznado let me take over the CcPublisher ITP. I checked the upstream tarball for installation instructions, and saw something like “gunzip and run for the source directory”. I’ve contacted Nathan Yergler (= upstream) to find out how does he think the program should be installed. The reply I got included this “I actually would encourage you not to package for Debian at this point.” Nathan also said that the details for installation where never worked on. As the last CcPublisher version was released a year ago, I don’t see any point to package it right now, especially when upstream don’t think it the right time. I hope that they will find some time to make their software ready for distributions.

4 April 2007

Joerg Jaspert: DebConf7 Travel Sponsorship

Finally, I managed to sent out those “You (maybe) get money” / “Sorry, no money” mails to the DebConf7 attendees that asked for sponsorship. Nice amount of mail. The process to get to this point involved a bit of mail discussion but also two long and exhausting meetings of the whole team. Basically we had to go through the whole list of people, voting if we would give them money. We could vote yes, no, maybe, pass, which gets scored as 1, -1, 0.5, 0. Then after the meeting simply add all votes for one single attendee together and you know a score for him between 100% and -100%. I wrote a little script for my irssi, making it a bit simpler, but still lots of work. That was later on followed by a second meeting where you decide what you do with the score rates, basically - where do we draw the line of “Gets money”, “Gets no money”, “Maybe, if we have enough”. And you are done. Sounds simple, but uses a lot of energy. Fortunately that was most of the needed work. There will be a little bit during DebConf, and some small pieces until then, but majority is done. Now, everyone, say thanks to those who participated in this team, making it possible for me to send the mails: * Anthony Towns * Steve McIntyre * Moray Allan * Holger Levsen * Amaya Rodrigo * Margarita Manterola * Martin Wuertele * Gunnar Wolf * Junichi Uekawa * Neil McGovern * Marcela Tiznado * Felipe Augusto van de Wiel One thing you encounter with such a wide-spread team is that of “What damn time can we meet?”. You end up with some having the meeting near midnight, while the other have problems waking up.,. :)

24 August 2006

Marcela Tiznado: Debian Day Uruguay

After some days of thinking what should I do, I finally decided to go to spend 1.5 day in Uruguay to attend to Debian Day organized by Debian-uy. The trip was quite long (~7 hours) for being so near to Montevideo...

some could rest, some others didn't :-( After the boat we still had 4 hours on a bus. When we arrived we had some coffee while waited Debian-uy people to pick us.

We finally got picked and took us to the Instituto Tecnico Superior where Debian Day was going to take place.
The event was much more that what I've expected on amount of people, specially cause was the first "big" event organized by this group. There was a hacklab where people could attend with their computers and get Debian installed, they also offered people copies of Debian CDs (some people got the Sarge DVDs that remained from DebianDay-mx), hacking place, and of course somewhere to get "mate".
The talks were quite good in general, some where general free software and some others specifically about Debian. I signed keys with few people. The atmosphere was great. Thanks all Debian-uy for the receiving us.

On the way to Rodrigo's home, we found drummers playing along the street with huge flags and people dancing around. Simply amazing to found one of those non-tourist events.

28 June 2006

Anthony Towns: On being DPL

It’s almost the end of financial year in Australia, so what better time to take stock? I’m actually a bit surprised at just how much I need to do that – I knew being DPL would involve some new challenges, but it’s barely two months in and I’m already just about in shock. Guess it serves me right for putting “increasing Debian’s tempo” in my platform…
The two other roles I’ve been in that I would have expected to prepare me more have been Debian release manager, and secretary of Linux Australia. They’re both similar in a way – the release manager does a lot of cat herding within Debian, and has to make some calls that will leave people aggrieved; and Linux Australia has some contact with the press, and some reasonably serious projects going on. So a few issues were completely expected: a random initial slashdotting, a press report, an interview or two, some requests for quotes in articles and press releases, or ongoing opposition and arguments from dedicated Debianites who don’t happen to agree with me on some decision. There were other things that were new and interesting though not really surprising. The leader@ mail address turned out to have just as much spam as I expected, though also some unexpected interesting stuff too, including my first ever personally addressed open letter – in this case by Keith Curtis who also wrote the 10,000 bugs away from World Domination article that got slashdotted a while back. A tidbit:
Everyone agrees that Ubuntu couldn’t exist without Debian, but I also believe that Debian is better setup to take Ubuntu where it needs to go. There are hints that the Ubuntu team feels like they brought a pork chop suit to a lions den. Ubuntu’s user base and development team is growing exponentially, but I believe they could get there much faster with more of Debian’s help.
Keith also forwarded an open letter he’d written to Mark Shuttleworth, and had some interesting comments on the whole Java thing. As well, I suddenly started receiving SPI board mail, as Debian’s advisory representative to the SPI board, and started getting a couple of requests for authorising expenditures (Debian UK reimbursing Matthew Garrett for travel costs to the Gnome Advisory Board meeting in 2005) or providing a Debian representative for a meeting or joining the Google Summer of Code. And then there were the cool things I knew absolutely nothing about, like the excellent news Christian Perrier passed on about the launch of Dzongkha Linux, featured in news reports from Bhutan, India, and Australia. Of course, I completely expected that all this would overload me a bit, and I’d end up getting distracted from what I wanted to do, and not being able to keep up with stuff other people wanted me to do. To help with this a little, I delegated Steve McIntyre as, essentially, a co-DPL, and he’s been working on a few things, including the now successful switch of over to OFTC, and another fun little endeavour that I won’t spoil just yet. Things started getting a bit weird as I was preparing to travel off to debconf in Mexico – with some frustrated comments from damog and Marga and Gunnar, which was odd coming from the conference organisers themselves; and independently the reinflamation of some old tension on the debian-installer team. That got compounded at debconf itself, with the controversy over the inclusion of Sun Java in non-free extending not just to the lists, but an article in LWN (with a followup) as well as numerous other places around the net. That issue came to something of a climax when John Goerzen (with whom I’ve had some entertaining disagreements in the past) questioned whether SPI had been sufficiently involved in the decision (“I am becoming increasingly concerned at the unilateral method in which you and/or the archive maintainers have taken this decision.”), to which I responded fairly curtly to defend the way Debian makes decisions (“If SPI wish to withdraw from their relationship with Debian, then that’s entirely possible to arrange. I don’t think it’s at all proper that you try to obtain veto power of Debian’s activities as conducted by the duly authorised members of that organisation.”). Nothing’s really news there – flamewar on Debian lists between influential project members? Next thing you know the sun will rise in the East every morning, and then where will we be? What’s not so normal is those flamewars getting front page coverage on slashdot, or noted in an article on distrowatch. As far as Debian’s concerned, we had a couple more rounds, both in public and on the developer only -private list, then moved onto actually getting the legal advice John wanted. That’s actually still pending, and the debate has pretty much abated while that’s going on. And meanwhile, Wouter Verhelst, Manoj Srivastava, and others have started a much more productive look at Debian’s relationship with SPI and similar organisations, which has continued on to a draft of a constitutional amendment. But there was more stress and chaos at debconf than just the Java stuff, but what’s really impressive is the way people ended up dealing with it. Take damog for example:
Just as Tore said: This is the best DebConf ever. Isn’t it great? I started really enjoying this DebConf once I stopped worrying about bullshit, once I stopped worrying about senseless things and started to really give a shit about almost anything. Why do I need Gunnar to tell my girlfriend Ana, “you picked up the irresponsible one”? Why do I have to worry about the DPL giving a shit or not on the Latinamerican Debian community, even after being invited to meet the guys or to attend our BOF? […] I enjoy people here, thanks to all the organization cabal, thanks for your effort and your time on this. […] But after leaving all of this behind, I think Ana and me are having a great time sharing time with friends around us (the friends, los cuates, we are here for).
After seeing that post, and figuring out who damog actually was when he gave a lightning talk towards the end of the conference, we had a chance to briefly chat about what was going on – somehow I hadn’t taken in the invitation to attend the BOF, and had been told it was all in Spanish anyway, so hadn’t gone; meanwhile they’ve been thinking about holding a Debian miniconf in Latin America somewhere and wanting to know what sort of support they can get from the rest of the project – particularly moral support rather than financial, at that. Hopefully we’ll see news on that score in the coming months. But really, damog was right in the first place anyway: why care if the DPL supports you or not? Debian’s about everyone doing what they think is good and worthwhile, and that combining to produce something great – it’s not about what some guy who got six votes more than the next guy happens to think is important. But support is important, whether it comes in the form of a DPL saying “good idea!”, or something else. Gunnar’s response to the latter, eg:
Debian is love. After my scream for help a couple of days ago, and after a mountain of hard work, things are just running. No, we are not -by far- free of incidents, and it would be foolish to expect it to be so, but we are working nicely. And by the way, thank you, I have been receiving the largest amount of hugs ever, and believe me, each of them has been important. […] Thank you all, folks. I am in Cristoph Berg’s talk about reworking NM - And this comes very good to wrap up my post. Debian is much, much more than technical work. It is a social club. I love this social club. Just sitting here makes long months of work really worth it. A great hug back to you all!
And in the end we got quite a bit out of debconf6, for example more movement on the forthcoming release, improvements on i18n stuff, a new publicity project, movement on updating python, amongst other things. Who knows if the next debconf will manage to be anywhere near as much of an experience, but at least we’ll find out fairly soon where it’s going to be (though that process isn’t without hiccups of its own). Post debconf, there’s also been a notable influx of trolling going on too; with the most obvious and odious example being the insane, anonymously-posted prayers for a female developer’s death. Fortunately those have mostly been ignored as the mindless spam they are, though one might argue that Marcela Tiznado’s acceptance as a DD on her birthday, and the inclusion of in the official namespace are a more appropriate response to that sort of harassment than any sort of direct reply anyway. Not all our problems have conveniently been resolved right now, of course, the difficulties related to the installer team I alluded to above are ongoing, and at the moment a really good solution is still eluding us, though development continues anyway. And then, of course, there’s more to come – half the point of posting this is so I can stop worrying about all the stuff that’s been and gone, and get on with interesting things like the next point release, and the various other projects that I’ve let languish for the past few weeks.