Search Results: "spa"

6 February 2007

Joey Hess: mysteries of plumbing

What better place to be on a cold snowy day than lying on my side in a crawl space under my porch, in a muddy pool of water, getting sprayed on my glasses until I could hardly see. Yes, I had a plumbing disaster today, though I was able to fix it without waiting for a plumber or wasting hours of running water. Seems that somehow, whether influenced by the cold or what I don't know, an "T" on the pipe going into my water heater started leaking out of an unused fixture. I couldn't find anything that could have been blocking that before, so how it suddenly started gushing water I don't know. It was easy enough to screw in a pipe plug and fix it. It's amazing how closely the process of fixing plumbing parallels fixing a software bug. Update: It was probably an old pressure relief valve that failed somehow.

Lars Wirzenius: Rant: Fonecta spams me

It's that time of the year again when the homes in Helsinki get delivered no less than two sets of phone books. There's two competing companies producing them, so of course everyone should both sets, they think. Personally, I think it is ecologically irresponsible. I don't have any use for even one set: I find numbers faster and easier and more accurately on the web, and likewise maps on the web are better. Up until a few years ago, the phone books were delivered to grocery stores and people would pick them up from there. I could then happily ignore them. Then they decided to start delivering them directly to the doors of people's homes. This meant that I had to answer the door bell up to four times and tell them I don't want it. That's twice per company, since they would re-try delivery if they didn't succeed the first time. "No thank you" counts as not succeeding, of course. This year, Fonecta, one of the companies, has decided to produce the books in a size that fits through the mail slots in apartment buildings. When I came home today, I had a pile of useless, harmful crap on my doorstep. That's a good way to make potential customers happy, Fonecta, thank you very much indeed. I've e-mailed info@fonecta.com to ask them to come fetch them back. I don't want to throw them away, that just increases the garbage bill for my apartment building. If you, too, live in the Helsinki area and think that paper phone books are an outdated relic of the past, please join me in mailing Fonecta. I can't believe I'm the only one, yet both companies seem to claim every year that no-one complains.

David Welton: Popouts with Rails

In a previous article about Stuff To Do, my ajaxified priority queue program, I talked about how best to keep track of the user's state of activity, should they so desire. I opted for the popup, as that was the best compromise between simplicity, and ease of use for the end user. From an end-user point of view, it's similar to how gtalk can detach from gmail if you want to run it in its own window. The trick was to implement the popup/popout in Rails, which actually ended up being pretty easy, and, all things considered, is a pretty cool technique. It's neat to pop stuff in and out of a web page. The easy part is popping out the window:
<%= link_to_remote("Pop out " + image_tag('popout', :border => 0),
                    :url =>   :controller => 'tasks', :action => 'popout'    ,
                   :title => 'Pop the status window into a popup window') -%>
Which subsequently calls popup.rjs:
page.replace_html('status', "<i><small>status in popup window</small></i></br>" +
                  link_to_remote("<small>Restore</small>",
                                  :url =>   :controller => 'tasks', :action => 'popin'  ,
                                 :title => 'Restore the status window'))
page << 'statuspopup();'
Which is pretty simple - the first call replaces the html in the status div, and the second calls the javascript function statuspopup. This lets us replace what was in the status window with some placeholder text and a 'restore' link in case things get screwy and the user wants to simply restore the old content of the div in question. It's worth noting that we also store the popped out status in session[:popped_out] in order to let the application know that the window is "popped out". This doesn't actually pop the window itself up. The statuspopup function in javascript (located in application.js) takes care of that:
function statuspopup()  
  window.newwindow = window.open('/tasks/openstatus','status',
                                 'height=10,width=210,status=no');
  return false;
 
And then the openstatus action opens the same rails partial that the regular page does:
<%= render(:partial => '/tasks/status', ...
Meaning that you don't have to rewrite the same code in two places. So, that's all it takes to pop up a new window, and replace the contents of the old div in the html page giving the user the sense of having popped a piece of the page out into a popup. So far so good. Now what happens when the user closes the popup? Luckily, we get a reference to the window that opened the popup called window.opener that we can use to comunicate with the main window. For instance, in our case we set up an event listener to fire when the window closes:
window.addEventListener("unload", statusClosed, false);
And this, in turn, takes care of popping the window back into the main page:
function statusClosed()  
new Ajax.Request('/tasks/popin',   method: 'get', asynchronous: false  )
$('popoutlink').style.display = 'inline';
w = window.opener;
target = w.window.document.getElementById('status');
code = $('onidle').childNodes[1].innerHTML;
target.innerHTML = $('status').innerHTML;
target.style['backgroundColor'] = '#bbddbb';
target.style['backgroundColor'] = '#bbddbb';
w.eval(code);
 
Once again, pretty simple. What's happening: We also fix up the color just a bit, to mark the user as active. All in all, it's pretty useful for time tracking. In Linux, it's ver easy to set the new popup to follow you around the screen, making it so that it's not a bother at all to wave the mouse at it to let the application know you're online. All you do is set the 'on top' and 'always on visible workspace' options - at least in Gnome.

Rodrigo Gallardo: Failed training session

I went to the bookstore yesterday, hoping to advance in my Honya Budo training. I actually expected to reach “The feeling of the touch”. I succesfully dodged the powerful alure of a book of photographs by Juan Rulfo, a collection of maps showing the advance of european knowdledge of asian cartography from atiquity, and a collection of MC Escher engravings. Alas, the power of a cheap (MXN30) edition of Pirandello’s Six characters in search of an author proved too much for me. Back to square one, I go.

Gunnar Wolf: La Jornada vs. Debian

One of the leading newspapers in Mexico, often associated with its left-wing ideology (and, I don't think it's a coincidence, my personal favorite newspaper) published today this cartoon:

So, dear Rocha... Are you implying that many past and present Debian releases are identifiable with the corrupt Mexican government? Our de facto president is like our first official release, Buzz (1.1)? Does Rex (1.2) properly represent the worst of the PRInosauric regime? Is Hamm (2.0) a good symbol for our whole political class? Woody (3.0), the first release I had the opportunity to work on while still being in NM, is like our sadly unforgettable ex-president Fox? Does our current stable release Sarge (3.1) equal to the repression that Chiapas, Atenco, Oaxaca, Michoac n and others have suffered? This cartoon made me sad, really sad.
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Stefano Zacchiroli: do you want my debconf7 ticket

SPAM: do you want my DebConf7 plane ticket? This is (arguably) SPAM. Yes: I've already bought a plane ticket for DebConf7. But, unfortunately, yes: Gismo's proposal is terrific. So, again, yes: I would like to go to Edinburgh by motorbike traveling as few as 2200 km on my ass just to meet you, bunch of geeks, at the next DebConf7. Hence, to conclude this unsolicited blog post, here it comes the dangerous monetary proposal: are you traveling from Italy to DebConf7, Edinburgh airport? maybe from Milan Malpensa on June 14th 2006 (12:50), going back there on June 24th 2006 (14:45 from Edinburgh airport)? Then buy my plane ticket, it's cheap! Only 50 !!

5 February 2007

Gustavo Franco: Debian Custom Search - The Cabal

Update (05/1): The cabal now emphasize Debian related websites (even the most obscure ones) but also return results to any other topic. I'm sure it's better than Google vanilla for Debian contributors, developers and dedicated users. Give it a try. ;-)

Update (02/1): OpenSearch support has been added. In other words if you're using Firefox or IE7+ (ouch!) add The Cabal in your browser now.Go to The Cabal page and click on your search engines box on top right, you will see "Add The Cabal" on the list.

I've just added a Debian related custom search engine to my people.d.o page. Actually it works using Google Custom Search Engine, but i plan to add Yahoo Search Engine Builder to the mix. The search engine is called "The Cabal".

What it is:
What it isn't:
What is coming?
Search examples:
Suggestions and feedback about how you are using the search are welcome.

Martin F. Krafft: Cleaning HTML attachments from emails

Dear Lazyweb: do you know of a tool that can scrub text/html attachments from email, which have the message also in a text/plain attachment? I know storage is cheap these days, but with large mail volumes, there is a noticeable difference between storing 2k emails and 8k of redundancy. Previously, I would send auto-replies to get people to reconfigure their mailers, but that's not a battle I'll ever win, and there is no safe way to send auto-replies without annoying the living hell out of some people at some point. So I stopped and now want to switch to a local solution. I am sure the Anomy Sanitizer, or tools like MIMEDefang could be coerced into doing this, but they come with a lot of cruft that I do not need or want. Rather, I am looking for a lean and mean Unix-style pipe filter that will strip text/html parts if it has enough reason to believe that sibling text/plain parts carry the same information. It has to be capable of dealing with Unicode, or at least be 8bit-clean. And it has to work. Any comments appreciated! NP: Negua / A Way Out

Christian Perrier: fr: 99.838%, cs: 92.404%

These are the current translation ratios for French and Czech in unstable, after 17 days of "blitz l10n NMU". As expected, we are going down because of an uncoordinated upload of viewvc. I even went a little bit more annoyed because the maintainer did some changes to the debconf templates, updated *his* Spanish translation...but didn't care to warn other translators. Next time, I'll use my rubber cluebat, damog..:-) We will be hit again becacuse the sing package was re-uploaded by its maintainer iummediately after I NMU'ed it. Unfortunately, he did then correct some typographical errors in the templates and then fuzzied 9 formerly complete translations. Sad. (update as of 09:32 UTC: this will be corrected by the maintainer) Yesterday, I continued working on Thomas Huriaux dynamic status page:

Simon Richter: Fun in Scotland

Eventually, it just had to happen. Being used to subconsciously disregarding emails asking me to "update my application details", I overlooked both of the reminders to please fill in the timeframe in which I'd be at DebConf. Which probably means, I'm not going to get food/accomodation sponsorship. If I calculate with the (ballpark) figures I have, that would be a massive amount of money, even if I can get space in one of the hostels (which I currently do not know). So, I went out today and investigated some other options. One that particularly stuck out was a luxurious house about 15 kilometers from Edinburgh, that, provided there are a few others who'd share, would cost about the same to each of us. The downside is obvious: It'd be quite some distance to the venue, the train takes about half an hour to Edinburgh central and we'd have to get to the train first (the web site advertising the house says "car advised"). On the other hand, the house has an indoor pool, a sauna, Internet access, a washing machine and a clothes dryer and a garden with barbecue place. If there is a significant number of people (there is space for nine) interested, this might be an option.

4 February 2007

Jeff Bailey: So we're going to be parents soon...

A few things happen to remind us that we'll be parents soon...

* Angie just suggested that perhaps we could take the gin and vodka that we haven't been drinking out of the freezer to make space.

* We put together a crib yesterday. Anything else could've been random Ikea furniture. But y'know, there's just no other use for a crib. (Or a child sized one, anyway...)

* Angie turning around in what usually would've been plenty of space, and sending a glass flying with the end of her belly.

* The steady stream of (welcome) conflicting advice from people who are already parents.

There's less than 3 weeks to go to the official due date, less than 5 to the maximum date permitted (In Qu bec, they induce if we get 2 weeks past the due date). Midwife visits are now weekly. Birth bags are packed. We just need to finish assembling the phone and email lists and ...

... wait. =)

Probably time for more Angie pictures, though. I'll try to take some later.

Russell Coker: phone spam

Recently I had someone call my mobile phone asking whether I wanted to change phone providers. I asked them if they could hold the line - then I put my phone down and went back to work.

It took over eight minutes before they hung up on me.

Next time someone phone-spams you try to beat that record, please post a comment on this blog entry if you can beat eight minutes and twenty seconds of dead-air.

The call might have lasted longer if I had periodically picked up the phone and said "I'm almost ready". It's something I may test in the future.

3 February 2007

David Welton: In Thrall to Scarcity

As I've talked about in this space in the past, I've been coming to some conclusions about free software (open source, or whatever you want to call it): the economics of it, like anything else, are rooted in scarcity, and if you don't have a bit of that scarcity yourself, you have a lot less leverage This line of thought comes from the age-old question "how to create free software and make money at it?". This is a very important question for me, because I enjoy hacking on free software very much, and would love nothing more than to spend my days doing so. Creating new things, though, rather than working as a "system integrator" and tying pieces together with the smallest amount of glue possible. It's obvious that there is plenty of money to be had for people who simply use free software for their own ends. But what are those ends? We live in a world of scarcity - not everyone can have a fancy car, the nicest house in town, or the fastest computer. Market economies work via the exchange of scarce goods and services. If you have nothing to trade, you have nothing. Now, free software is worth something. Worth a great deal - that is beyond the shadow of a doubt. But since anyone can make a copy, there is no scarcity - once it's out there, you can't trade for it. So... where does this leave our potential free software creator? Let's think about some of the ways around this problem. I've alluded to it in the past, but consulting operations have several problems, especially when considered from the point of view of someone who wishes to create software: So, there you have it. In one way or the other, to make money at something in the long run, you are going to have to find and sell a product that people cannot effortlessly get for free.

Evan Prodromou: 14 Pluvi se CCXV

I was interested to see the announcement on Flickr of a new syntax called machine tags (via a story on machine tags from Programmable Web). Machine tags are a way to provide structured information within a tagging structure. It takes the traditional tagging format (just words) and adds a little structure of the form "namespace:property=value". I like machine tags; they map cleanly into RDF. I'll be interested to see how the rel=tag microformat will grow or adapt to this new structure. My guess is that there will be some resistance. tags:

2 February 2007

Russell Coker: classic security mistake

One of the most obvious (and yet most common) computer security mistakes is to take input from an untrusted (and potentially hostile) source. A classic example of this is in Windows Vista where audio output from the system speakers can be taken as input to the speech recognition system. According to the BBC article an MS representative said "it would be unlikely the user would not be in the room to hear the file with malicious instructions being played".

It seems that according to MS it's OK for your computer security to be breached, just as long as you are around to witness it!

Amaya Rodrigo: I am stupid

Looks like my server was greylisting the Sender verify callouts from Debian hosts. I am damn stupid and stand corrected. I take email too seriously. Specially Debian email.

Maybe I am not that stupid, maybe all this antispam measures are just overkill. Maybe we are all overdoing it. Maybe we are all way too paranoid already. Because, after all, I still consider Sender verify callouts to be evil. And email as we know it might be already dead.

Update: I am not stupid after all. All debian hosts are whitelisted by default in the standard postgrey configuration. I don't get it. Hints very welcome!

As I posted to debian-private: Dam it, and I take pride in being an excellent email sysadmin... Looks like I should reconsider my career. Cat herding seems to be easier than dealing with the email crap^Wpain nowadays.

Amaya Rodrigo: Sender verify callouts *are* evil

Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> Who the heck is uceprotect , and should anyone care?
> At least they obviously don t have much idea how sender verify works,
> as you can see from their page on the issue...


Well, as I can t properly or reliably communicate with the Debian project via email anymore, I was about to allow sender verify probes on my side, but after reading what the Postfix project has to say about it, together with the uceprotect people, who look quite harsh, but otherwise reasonable to me... I say no way. Who the heck is postfix , and should anyone care? At least they obviously have a clue about how sender verify works, as you can see from their page on the issue...

I am sick of changing configuration in my (otherwise) almost perfectly working smtp server, specially if I am opening my postfix server to a potential DoS. From the link above:
The sender/recipient address verification feature described in this document is suitable only for low-traffic sites. It performs poorly under high load and may cause your site to be blacklisted by some providers.

Is Debian a low-traffic site? I am feeling cut out from the project, as I can no longer email certain (not all) developer@debian.org accounts, bug numbers in the BTS (control still works), and Alioth mailing lists. I refuse to misconfigure my email server because of this. This is plain stupid!

Greylisting was a minor nuissance. This is $FILL_IN_WITH_CURSE_OF_CHOICE:
~-root@aenima>mailq
-Queue ID- --Size-- ----Arrival Time---- -Sender/Recipient-------
A57EB890041 1173 Fri Feb 2 19:52:34 xxxxxx@amayita.com
(host lists.alioth.debian.org[217.196.43.134] said: 451 Could not complete sender verify callout (in reply to RCPT TO command)) xxxxxx-pkg-base-maintainers-request@lists.alioth.debian.org

Spammers have already won. I hereby proclaim email officially dead.

Evan Prodromou: 13 Pluvi se CCXV

I spent most of the day yesterday travelling from Montreal to Portland for RecentChangesCamp 2007. I got a pretty decent last-minute ticket with flyer miles from Aeroplan, but the flight took me through Washington (D.C.) which was probably 2-3 hours out of my way. The first leg of the flight was great -- one of those nice puddle-jumpers with leather seats and lots of legroom. I got into Dulles and had time for an impressive (for airport food) pair of crabcakes at the Tidewater bar and restaurant. I shared a table with Mary Beth from Albany (New York), who was en route to Beijing to adopt a 1-year-old baby girl. We had a pretty good talk. The second leg was brutal, though. It was three big guys in a three-seat row on a crowded 6-hour flight. (Just before they closed the doors, the guy in the aisle seat scooted over to an open seat in the adjacent row. We all laughed at dodging the bullet of having to sit on top of each other... then the family who had those seats made a last-minute rush for the plane, and aisle-guy moved back to Elbonia with us. We sat in sullen silence for the rest of the flight. Gar.) I managed to distract myself by reading The Good Earth and watching Marie Antoinette (2006 film), which was actually really good. I'd heard about the soundtrack -- New Wave -- and thought it'd be an anachronistic distraction from the period, but it turned out to fit very well. Between the two I managed to keep myself from going insane. I got a nice Mazda 6 from Hertz at the airport and after missing the 84 turn-off and driving 20 miles out of my way (and back again) I got to my hotel for the weekend. The Jupiter Hotel is a remodeled cheap-o motel on Portland's hip East Side. The rooms have been stripped of their clown paintings, fly-specked wallpaper and floral-print bedspreads, and replaced with a spare, pleasant d cor reminiscent of a smart European DJ lounge or an Ikea catalog. Free Wi-Fi, full-length chalkboards on the doors for doodlers, organic soaps and shampoo. French press for morning coffee. Branded jimmy-hat with a big J on it next to the bed. Isn't that sweet? The place reminds me a bit of boutique hotels like the Hotel Palomar in San Francisco, but it doesn't quite have the full high-end feel. After all, if you look at it through squinty eyes, the room is a cinder-block motel cell, and the nice look doesn't quite hide that. But a regular room rate starting at $79/night is hard to beat. There's an outdoor fireplace, pleasant grounds, and lots of bare hewn logs around the lot. The adjacent Doug Fir Lounge has impressively medium-name music acts and a really nice post-modern ski-lodge look. I'm a bit worried about noise tonight (the complimentary earplugs in the bedstand have be concerned), but my room is waaaay in the back of the lot, away from the lounge, so hopefully it won't be too bad. The Doug Fir also has a restaurant, and I'm sitting there right now writing this entry. I just had a very tasty smoked-salmon eggs benedict (b n dictine, for you Montrealers out there), and once I finish this sentence and my surprisingly decent decaf, I'm off for RCC07. tags:

MJ Ray: Bad Tech Links for 2007-02-02

"Guidelines for the Secure Operation of the Internet" (RFC1281)
Read it and weep.
Techblogging: DoSing spammers
I've done this in the past, by having a CGI rabbit-hole in a semi-hidden link near the start of the page which just generated 1000s of invalid email addresses. For bonus points, use addresses with MX servers which will never be online again, or maybe with a MX that tarpits and rejects all mail eventually. Get enough points and the spammer will either stop scanning your site or waste a lot of time on you.
Google scanned by spammers [Techblogging]
I don't use pingomatic, but a few of my pages are ranked high enough to attract spammers every time I update them. I think blog spammers probably are using subscription tools to find the most active/most syndicated sites to spam. Can we redesign the tools to defeat them?
BBC News Technology UK Edition: Ads help Google profits triple
But hey, why should Google care about spammers when their externalisation to date is making Google rich?
Techblogging: Web 2.0 security issues incoming
I dislike Web 2.0 so far because it is often inaccessible - this suggests it's often insecure too.
Software Patents Petition
Need more brains... come on, sign the petition, even if it has a bit of hyperbole/invective and a typo or two. Last I heard, it's behind adopting Spandau Ballet's Gold as national anthem, for crying out loud!
The Irascible Professor-commentary of the day 06-07-06. Calculator dependence.
Parents, don't let your children grow up to be calculator junkies!
Zugschlusbeobachtungen: Which kind of software suspend?
I think I heard Matthew Garrett give an interview somewhere (LUG Radio?) which summarised the suspend situation as something like "it works well except when it doesn't." My computer usually software-suspends, but sometimes it crashes and sometimes is often enough to deter me from suspending it often. I really ought to debug it, but it's not a priority yet.
'Cheap and tacky' wedding email that went global - 19 Nov 2006 - National
"The marquee company's CEO, Klaus Jorgensen, said he had sacked the employee responsible - who turned out to be his wife"
NoDaddy.Com - Exposing the Many Reasons Not to Trust GoDaddy with Your Domain Names
"They didn't give me a chance to dispute or resolve the problem -- just a voicemail saying my domain was scheduled for suspension , followed up by a Domain Suspension Notice exactly 52 seconds later. Note that neither of these included a phone number for the abuse department or a reason for the shutdown."
The 'Ow' starts now / freedom bits / greve / Fellows / The Fellowship - Fellowship of FSFE
FSFE's Georg Greve won't be upgrading to Vista, which I saw called "Windows Fista" on the BBC's site - disgruntled journo, over-aggressive MS PR or typo?
BBC NEWS Have Your Say Will you be getting Microsoft Vista?
Nearly 2000 comments, most "No" AFAIS
Microsoft files for patent on "modular operating system"
Microsoft patents Linux?
Hacking gadflies: Marechal, A dystopian future''
Another comment on the MS patent.
BBC NEWS Technology Triple threat targets Word users
While I'm boggling at Microsoft, I hope all their customers saw this little Christmas present from 20 December.
BBC News Technology UK Edition: Sony CD compensation agreed
No Christmas for Sony, remember? They pay out a year or so late.
BBC Trust - On-demand Services' consultation
A remarkable consultation that includes a question "How important is it that the proposed seven-day catch-up service over the internet is available to consumers who are not using Microsoft software?", but the questionnaire doesn't work in all browsers. Do you think this biases the responses? Yes, yes or yes?
Digg - Pressure the BBC to embrace open standards, not just Microsoft technology!
Digg is the new slashdot. Just add hot grits.
BBC News Technology UK Edition: Vista has speech recognition hole
"for the flaw to be exploited the speech recognition feature would need to be activated and configured and both microphone and speakers would have to be switched on." Well, my speakers are embedded in the screen, my microphone doesn't have an on/off switch and I leave it switched on in the mixer so that I can answer the softphone quickly... I doubt I'm the only one who doesn't switch the mic off after every use. Are Microsoft living in the real world any more?

1 February 2007

Christian Perrier: Solutions Linux 2007

(update: numerous typos removed) This year, attending the whole Solutions Linux event wasn't compatible with my paid work (for those who care, I'm since September head of the Personal and departmental computing unit in the Networks and Information Department of ONERA, the French Aerospace Lab). Despite this, I booked at least yesterday afternoon to visit the expo and more particularly the Debian booth. It is always a pleasure to meet again French developers and contributors as well as all these old dinosaurs which I learned electronic communications with 1200bps modems with, some time ago. The Debian booth was as crowded as usual. It was still featuring a Babelbox, built in one night by Pierre Habouzit and Julien Blache. Congratulations, you did an awful job here. I'm glad I saw all those good people. I was tempted to cite everybody and will finally refrain because I'm too afraid of forgetting one of you guys. For our international readers, this includes several of the people I may have had a few flamy discussions and even blog "wars" with in the recent past (I'm just missing you, Joss, being told that you couldn't attend that Wednesday). As usual, we all survived very well. The other "big" event was also the first formal meeting of the Debian France non-profit organisation. Everything is pretty young but the hidden creation work done by the founding members has been huge and the base is now here. Debian now officially exists in France. I'll do my best to play my part in this action and work with other members of the board to fit the organisation goals and bring Debian more prevalence in our country. I also had a very long talk with Bruno Cornec and Louis Bouchard from HP. We discussed about HP customers needs for official support for Debian on HP machines, and not only servers (ONERA has an internal project to deploy a few hundreds of workstations aimed at being the scientific platform for ONERA scientists and PhD students. We already have more than 100 of these, based on RHEL and guess what are my mid-term plans for them? :-)). We just need some official commitment from HP to support using Debian to unlock the internal fears. It sounds like HP could go this way if customers show enough interest. Of course, ONERA's project is pretty small but we are one of the key players in out domain in the country so that could be kind of interesting marketing for HP...and Debian..:-). Bdale, I need to talk with you soon.... Back to work now, for a few days. Then, I'll take 3 days off next week to attend the 3rd Free Software World Conference in Badajoz and present the results of the Extremadura i18n session we held in September, along with other people who held some of these sessions, namely Frans Pop (about the D-I session), Wookey (about the Embedded Debian session), Knut Yrvin (about the Debian-Edu session) and Martin Michlmayr (about the QA session). All people who I will be very glad to meet again.

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