Peter Eisentraut: KDE 4.1 experience
I tried the installation of KDE 4.1 beta 1 on Debian, as described here. I ended up undoing this about an hour later. The environment isn't really usable yet, so my advice to the public is: don't do it, on a system you plan to actually use.
Here is a random assortment of problems I encountered:
The good news is that the packaging appears to be really robust (I found one packaging bug with a file conflict) and the upgrade and downgrade works well (you have to use aptitude, as described in Ana's post; apt craps out completely).
So when KDE 4 is actually usable, Debian will be ready. But not for lenny; that would be suicide in my opinion.
Here is a random assortment of problems I encountered:
- You can't configure size and appearance of the panel. This is a long-standing problem, but I thought it was fixed.
- In general, there don't appear to be all that many configuration options available to replicate various behaviors that I have become accustomed to.
- Rendering problems in the system tray; icons appear on top of each other.
- Various kicker widgets don't appear to be available for KDE 4 (yet?).
- Most applications don't copy their old settings, but it appears that some do?
- KMail doesn't interact well with encrypted IMAP accounts. I didn't try much beyond that, because I have no accounts that are not affected by that.
- Clicking on an RSS link in Konqueror doesn't link to Akregator anymore. Probably, various MIME type associations are missing.
- I couldn't get the environment to remember to open terminal windows maximized. Very annoying.
- I couldn't add any application icons to the panel. I'm not sure where on is supposed to store one's favorites now.
The good news is that the packaging appears to be really robust (I found one packaging bug with a file conflict) and the upgrade and downgrade works well (you have to use aptitude, as described in Ana's post; apt craps out completely).
So when KDE 4 is actually usable, Debian will be ready. But not for lenny; that would be suicide in my opinion.
The way
Tomorrow (Thu 29th) at 7.30pm is the
I finally sent out a flood of mails to those people that applied for
Travel Sponsorship for this years Debian Conference in Argentina.
We have 58 people who got a position in our sponsorship queue, asking
for nearly 60.000 USD in total. We are not yet sure if we are able to
reimburse all of them, but we will at least try to.
We also have 24 people rejected from this queue and possibly some people
haven’t been able to fill out their settings in our conference
management system correctly/in time. While we are sorry for them, we
can’t do much here.



The CIO and 
I must admit that the "no complicated configuration file" was an advantage for most users of