Things have been rather hectic lately, so I haven't found much time to blog. Here's why: DBE62 The Gigabit Ethernet version of our thin client took more time to produce than I expected, for a number of reasons mostly related to a few improvements we decided to squeeze into the design at the last minute. However, today, we finally reached a point where LinuxBIOS runs as well as it did on our previous DBE61 model and where we no longer need any DOS tool to flash the MAC address into the VIA velocity Gigabit chip we selected. Hurray! Production will only commence in one month, but I'm already excited by the new model's potential, both as a thin client and as an embedded platform. Another good thing is that, thanks to Ubuntu developer Scott Balneaves, we managed to get all the necessary tools to support thin clients based on LinuxBIOS into LTSP, so our Etherboot model works out of the box on Ubuntu, since Gutsy. Hurray! There is one remaining issue related to recent changes in X.org core functionalities that make the AMD driver we need unstable but, again, various AMD, Debian and Ubuntu developers are looking into fixing this, so we should soon have spotless Geode support into Debian and Ubuntu again. T rkiye I visited Turkey twice over the last few months, because I'm putting together a pilot project to better promote the Estonian high-tech sector abroad, in collaboration with the Estonian government. I have to say that the more I visit Turkey, the more I like the place and the more understand why these people see themselves as Europeans because, you know what? They are: practically every significant civilization and religion that is at the core of European culture had major events taking place in in Anatolia or Thrace and, also, a devastatingly huge percentage of the consumer goods sold in Europe are designed and manufactured in Turkey. Learning the rudiments of Turkish has also proven to be a lot of fun. While I'm nowhere near as fluent in Turkish as in Finnish or even in Estonian, the learning curve isn't as steep as I initially expected: Altaic and Ugric languages share a surprising amount of grammatical concepts, while Turkish itself borrowed a lot of vocabulary from French, because the founder of modern Turkey, Atat rk, was very fond of the language. I'll venture that proximity with nearby Middle-Eastern countries that were formerly under French influence has something to do with it too. Identity crisis To me, the most challenging part of these business missions abroad is to represent a whole economic sector from a country of which I'm not a citizen or even a resident. Case in point: Being invited to dinner by a Turkish investor, I noticed the waiter asking my host where his foreign guest might be from. A few minutes later, as the waiter put down a gigantic pita bread with the word "Estonia" spelled in roasted sesame seeds, my host asked, reading my business card:

• Actually, your name doesn't sound Estonian. France?
• Qu bec.
• And your mobile number ... 358 ... is that Finland?
• Yup. I've been living there for the past 10 years.
• Ah! So you don't live in Tallinn?
• Nope. Helsinki.

Looking at the waiter and pointing at the gigantic pita, he continues:

• Actually, make that Canada ... no, Finland ... Ah, sorry, never mind. Just keep it as Estonia.

Honestly, trying to keep a straight face while saying "We" about a country of which I'm not a citizen and where I don't even reside becomes unbearable. At some point, some European bureaucrats will have to admit that I need a new citizenship, to reduce the confusion and to let me find myself a proper national identity again; the sooner, the better. Besides, the absurdity of the situation keeps on jumping at everyone's face: during the second mission to Turkey, I kept on bumping into Finnish diplomats who took personal offense at me for living in their country and yet representing the interests of a competing, neighboring country. If you ask me, I cannot entirely blame them for it. However, as far as I'm concerned, I've done my homeworks: I've been here 10 years, I speak the language and I don't have a criminal record. Given this, you'd think that acquiring citizenship would be a mere formality, but the Ulkomaalaisvirasto doesn't see it that way. If you ask me, this country's very first Minister of Immigration, Mrs.Astrid Thors, ought to unilaterally grant citizenship to anyone who's lived here for at least 5 years, just for the asking, regardless of what circumstances brought them here or of what absurd decisions the Ulkomaalaisvirasto might have previously made on their residence permit status. Doing this would go a long way towards undoing the mess of her predecessors at the Ministry of Interior and it would speak volumes about how much Finnish society has evolved from the days when any foreigner was a commie they had to push over the Eastern border.

So it's been a few days since I swapped in the Zonbu I bought, as my ATA over Ethernet "head". It hasn't been all ponies and roses, but it hasn't been a total loss either. The main problem I was having was a lot of

usb 5-2: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2

type of errors during moderate I/O to the RAID10, which was connected to the four USB ports on the back of the unit (similar errors for all four USB devices). Initial Googling suggested that it was a USB mass-storage thing, and that lowering the maximum number of sectors read (and/or written?) a once in /sys/block/sd[a-d]/device/max_sectors would fix the problem. Well that didn't really seem to make a difference. Then I did some rummaging in the Zonbu forums, and it became apparent that there were some problems with the four USB ports on the back of the unit and USB 2.0 mass-storage devices. One of the forum threads pointed me at this bug, which had been subsequently fixed in a newer release of the Zonbu OS. I apprehensively emailed the Zonbu support folks lateish on Friday evening, not expecting to hear anything back until Monday, and half expecting to be unsupported because I was running Debian on it, when I got a reply fairly promptly telling me this kernel patch would fix the problem. It turns out that the VIA CX700 is a wee bit buggy, or the BIOS support for it is or something. Anyway, I spent the better part of two days compiling a new Debian 2.6.22 kernel with this patch applied (took me two goes, the first time the patch wasn't applied), but the Zonbu is now running a 2.6.22 kernel with this patch. Notably you get this message during bootup now:

PCI: VIA CX700 PCI parking/caching fixup on 0000:00:11.7

It's a bit early to tell how it's going to work out. I don't have a scheduled recording until tonight, but I've just scheduled something random to see how it works out. Playing back a recording made before I swapped the Zonbu in seemed to go fine.

Many languages are spoken in more than one country, and many countries have more than one language. When you forget this you do stuff like language selection menus that use flags to represent languages. This is problematic for several reasons, starting with having to ask yourself what flag you are going to use to represent English, and how to deal with the angry letters you’ll receive when you use the national flag to represent a regional language. So, using flags to represent languages is definitely discouraged. This said, have a look at this small piece of the KDE l10n stats page: The funny thing is that the flag you see next to Galician is the flag of Greenland. And Galician is not spoken at all in Greenland! So, what happened? Why did they use so wrong a flag? The problem is that the ISO 639-1 code for the Galician language is gl , which is the same as the ISO 3166-1 code for Greenland. So, when choosing the flag for Galician they confused the language code with the country code and selected the flag for gl : that is, for Greenland. (I’m surprised that they used the Ukrainian flag ( ua ) for the Ukrainian language ( uk ), and not the Union Flag. Perhaps that would have been too obvious an error :) – although I have been told by email that the ISO 3166-1 code for the UK is GB , not UK ) So, my takeaway message is: don’t use flags to represent languages and if you do, make sure you use a flag of a place where the language is actually spoken! Addendum: I have just seen that Basque is accompanied by the flag of the European Union! That’s because the language’s code is eu . Ah, and there are three variants of the Chinese language (Hong-Kong, Simplified and Traditional), all with the flag of the People’s Republic of China. Someone is bound to receive angry email – Taiwan is a political hot potato. I have sent email to the maintainer of the page.

Many languages are spoken in more than one country, and many countries have more than one language. When you forget this you do stuff like language selection menus that use flags to represent languages. This is problematic for several reasons, starting with having to ask yourself what flag you are going to use to represent English, and how to deal with the angry letters you’ll receive when you use the national flag to represent a regional language. So, using flags to represent languages is definitely discouraged. This said, have a look at this small piece of the KDE l10n stats page: The funny thing is that the flag you see next to Galician is the flag of Greenland. And Galician is not spoken at all in Greenland! So, what happened? Why did they use so wrong a flag? The problem is that the ISO 639-1 code for the Galician language is gl , which is the same as the ISO 3166-1 code for Greenland. So, when choosing the flag for Galician they confused the language code with the country code and selected the flag for gl : that is, for Greenland. (I’m surprised that they used the Ukrainian flag ( ua ) for the Ukrainian language ( uk ), and not the Union Flag ( uk ). Perhaps that would have been too obvious an error :)) So, my takeaway message is: don’t use flags to represent languages and if you do, make sure you use a flag of a place where the language is actually spoken!

Many languages are spoken in more than one country, and many countries have more than one language. When you forget this you do stuff like language selection menus that use flags to represent languages. This is problematic for several reasons, starting with having to ask yourself what flag you are going to use to represent English, and how to deal with the angry letters you’ll receive when you use the national flag to represent a regional language. So, using flags to represent languages is definitely discouraged. This said, have a look at this small piece of the KDE l10n stats page: The funny thing is that the flag you see next to Galician is the flag of Greenland. And Galician is not spoken at all in Greenland! So, what happened? Why did they use so wrong a flag? The problem is that the ISO 639-1 code for the Galician language is gl , which is the same as the ISO 3166-1 code for Greenland. So, when choosing the flag for Galician they confused the language code with the country code and selected the flag for gl : that is, for Greenland. (I’m surprised that they used the Ukrainian flag ( ua ) for the Ukrainian language ( uk ), and not the Union Flag. Perhaps that would have been too obvious an error :) – although I have been told by email that the ISO 3166-1 code for the UK is GB , not UK ) So, my takeaway message is: don’t use flags to represent languages and if you do, make sure you use a flag of a place where the language is actually spoken!

One might think that it is too early to declare the existence of a “classic” work on the Internet given how the Internet as a widely accessible communications networks is barely out of its pre-teen years, But if there is one book that I would say is a classic, it’s Julian Dibbell’s My Tiny Life. There were plans underway to release it under a libre license but after I ran into Julian at the AAAs in November, I got the scoop that things had come to a screeching halt. So a few days ago I was surprised to find in my inbox, this nicely crafted announcement that My Tiny Life is more or less (more more than less) free as a free bird. This is good news and his story about the trials and tribulations of getting My Tiny Life out of the noose of copyright, is an interesting one, involving among other things, outsourced Indian Labor. Who knew. And while I am on the topic, I meant to write about who, among the many authors I assigned this last fall, took the cake among students as their favorite book/article. Somewhat, unsurprisingly, Dibbell’s more recent Play Money was the champion. Most of the comments were relayed in class but here is one of the more amusing comments indicating the love:

Reading Julian Dibbell s Real Money, Or How I quit My Day Job and Made Millions Trading Virtual Loot was exceedingly more interesting than I expected.

And then just yesterday, another student wrote me an email telling me he read and re-read the book over his holiday break and wants to get Dibbell inivited to NYU to speak (which would be great, though I admittedly have no idea how to make that happen given my recent arrival here). But clearly, there is another classic in the making. Thankfully students liked many other readings and I think there were two other clear winners: Carl Elliot’s Better than Well , Michael Warner’s The Trouble with Normal. and Michael Sandel’s The Case against Perfection. This is of course no surprise to me as I picked these books because I knew they would teach themselves.

I don't know why some people always shout censorship when it's about what is acceptable behaviour and what not and about what things people want to be assosiated with and with what not. (Must be some relative of Godwin's law (the original, not the "you lost" usenet-variant)).

I personally do not care only little about what happens in irc-channels I'm not in. I don't know what happens in this this special channel starting the discussion, and I don't believe any anedotically examples can make a big difference. (Humans err, sometimes in tone, and even some hundred examples of wrong tone in some backyard alone is nothing I care much about, as long as it is nothing that would be a criminal offense if done in more public places).

What I absolutely dislike is any form of communication forum - especially those that could be associated with me - to be declared as a place where foul behaviour (to which I count sexism) is acceptable and even worse to be accepted as norm. (Why didn't anyone shout "censorship" at the "Love it or get the fuck out of here"? Perhaps there is some correlation between views of the world I don't understand).

By the way, there are places where I feel personally offended as a victim of sexism by a statement like "men are pigs". For example in a discussion about sexism. (I know, I know, it might not be sexism according to some definitions, but I see no reason to not use the word or not dislike it just because the forcing into gender roles is done by members of the same sex as opposed to to members of the opposite sex.)

Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs): wanna comment? Ok, ok, you're right, I was late, but a good old rule of SPAM is: the more, the better. So, if you care about decision management (or, better, tracking) in Debian and you've always wondered why don't we have something like PEPs? please take part in this discussion: a nice "by product" of the Extremadura Debian QA meeting by Dato, Lars, and myself.

As one of the females in #d-o might I add that this is not at all a sexist channel. Sure, like all friggen channels on IRC, and not to speak of the internet in general, there will be jokes, about men, women, monkeys, MacGyver and politicians. If you walk into a channel as a stranger and immediately draw conclusions because one
of the known peers of the channel utters a joke, and ramble about it, publically slandering that this person or channel is sexist, you really have no friggen business on the internet. Sorry, but you don’t.
Everyone is made fun of on irc, in #debian-offtopic it’s definitely “friendly insults” at that, and women are no exception to this. If you are too sensitive to handle this, again, you really have no business on irc. Please stop slandering and causing excessive drama because you cannot handle a fucking joke, for the love of god. I’ll say it again, #debian-offtopic or ANY debian channel I have ever been to (which according to my whois is a whole fuckload) has never ever hit me as sexist, and if you hang around enough to see some of the cool people around in them, maybe, just MAYBE you’ll see that these simple insults are JOKES and meant to be FUNNY and SARCASTIC. If you are unable to handle JOKES and SARCASM, get your ass off the internet and leave the rest of us “sexist” and ”blasphemist” freaks alone, PLEASE.

The story seems to have started with Damog supporting sexism and xenophobia in Debian, followed by Bernhard’s comment about that not being tolerable under Debian’s flag. Aigarius replied kinda shocked that stopping verbal abuses and violence would be censorship. AJ clearly explained the reasons why that shouldn’t be tolerated in Debian, but Aigarius seems to keep thinking that poor jerks are being discriminated when they’re not allowed to insult us. Wouter seems to be tired of the whole topic. Am I missing any chapter? Now my turn: We are on the right way. Since the Debian-Women project started, we have being able to achieve a friendly and non-sexist environment inside Debian, which is something that I’d really like to keep. It doesn’t really mind that a couple of people try to go back to a hostile environment. Trolls just do exist, I guess, but they are not representative of the general feeling of the people inside Debian. Damog, I won’t get the fuck out of here, like it or not. It seems to me that it’s just a couple of you who are happy to be in such an aggressive environment as the one you’re promoting. For what I know, most of Debian people are happy to live in peace. You don’t have social life? You don’t like it? That’s your problem, dude, but don’t ask us to leave ours. I respect you, you know I have always done. I’m just very disappointed with your comment. Really. Making fun of other people’s problems and traumas is simply bullying. I hope you think about it. For the rest of Debian, keep up the good job. Right now my feeling is that the level of sexism, racism, ageism, homophobia, hostility and unfriendliness in general inside Debian development’s world is below the average in the Free Software world. It’s nice to be there, and I’m really proud of belonging here, which is something I cannot say about every group in Free Software. I’d like to keep it that way. Sorry for the aggressiveness in this weblog entry.

Debian meetings are fun, there is no doubt, but they are also magic, because things happen that would not happen otherwise. I had this Debian Enhancement Proposals idea in my mind since late August 2006, but I had let it rot for various reasons. During the Extremadura QA meeting last December, some conversation happened that made my head pop out the idea, run it past some people, find the energy and, together with Lars and Zack, produce a draft. So, the bottom line of this post is: go to meetings and participate, or sponsor/organize them if you can, because there’s not telling what can come out of them!

Actually I never went away, yes 22 months is a long time between blog entries, I just got distracted by travelling and working at AwayPhone. I'm still there and we are looking for one or two developers, principally in the US (Washington state) — but as a global company, not necessarily — so let us know (ASCII only, spell-checked, coherent English, etc.) if you are interested. I've been on (technically) holidays for the past few weeks, but I find myself awake, reviewing code at 02:45 (now 03:30) and trying to catch up on emails. I'm reminded of a friend of mine who always used to shout “RELAX!” whenever we went bar-hopping. I've been trying to apply that to a broader area of life than just bars but it appears that it just isn't how I'm wired to operate; for better or worse. That means, that whilst in Australia, I'm also rebuilding my mothers' IT infrastructure at her publishing company. I want it all to survive without any intervention for at least 2 years. So, I've been evaluating various pieces of kit. My conclusions:

NetGear

Switches, Modems (ADSL) and Wireless access points

Western Digital

Linux NAS boxes (they have Samba, rsync and SSH on pre-installed. I'd expect a firmware update from the makers to incorporate iSCSI and allow you to join a domain shortly).

HP

Desktops and Servers. Although I wish Bdale has some influence within HP and I did not have to taint the kernel of my servers. Seriously, it is because of that I re-do a price/functionality check everything time I go to purchase a machine. HP only just get it right.

Linksys / Cisco - snom

VoIP handsets. To be honest, this category is still being evaluated; but I'm leaning towards snom.

I realise everyone has probably been burnt but some of the vendors mentioned above but this is my experience of them. You'll notice nothing about laptops. I'm looking around for a decent vendor, I'll let you know if I find one. If you have been following along, you will notice that the Netgear ADSL modems (DM111P) runs Linux. The WD MyBook World Editions II's, run Linux (and I'd expect that they could be coaxed very easily into running generic Debian). The HP stuff (mostly) runs Linux. As does the Linksys and snom handsets. We won. Now, I've got to figure out how to setup Clonezilla so that the desktop Windows machines can be replaced when they fail. And I have less than 144 hours to do so. There is nothing like a deadline to concentrate your mind. P.S. I do have some half-finished entries for the intervening 22 months, I will clean them up and post them under their original dates in the next few weeks

About a month ago I added symbol version information to the zlib package, allowing dpkg-shlibdeps to calculate more relaxed dependencies for packages using the library. The results have been very satisfying so far - of the 1784 packages depending on zlib1g on amd64:

• 532 depend on zlib1g 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-1, the version which introduced support for _FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 and the version which packages that were built before zlib1g had symbol version information will depend on.
• 333 depend on version 1:1.2.1, which predates sarge let alone etch.
• 74 depend on the even earlier version 1:1.1.4-1.
• 843 packages have an unversioned dependency on zlib1g - a quick glance at some of these indicates that (as I would expect) they either don’t actually link against zlib directly or do but don’t use any symbols from it.
• The remaining two packages are the -dev and -dbg packages which have an exact dependency on the library package they were built against.

Of course, zlib is a particularly good use case for this - both API and ABI are extremely stable and most of the changes in interface are in rarely used features - but it’s still good to see it working in practice. I don’t need to worry nearly so much as I would have done previously about keeping other packages out of testing. If you maintain a library written in C I would encourage you to take a look at implementing this, it’s very straightforward. Libraries written in other languages may cause more difficulty. There are some automatically generated symbol files in mole which provide a good starting point (I didn’t use them since upstream already had a more exact list of versions at which symbols were introduced) and support is already present in debhelper. The main things to watch out for when using the mole data are backwards compatible ABI changes which don’t just add new symbols (for example, if new values are accepted by a function) and variations between architectures. Kudos to Rapha l for all the work he’s put into this.

Oh yay, another argument about sexism. I thought we were over this. Aigars writes:

Trying to restrict what words people can or can not use (by labeling them sexist, racist or obscene) is the bread and butter of modern day media censorship. It is censorship and not “just political correctness”. While I would not want people trying to limit contributions to Debian only to “smart and educated white people” (racism) or “logically thinking males” (sexism), going the other way and excluding people from Debian because their remarks or way of thinking might offend someone is just offensive to me.

One: it’s not censorship for Debian to limit discussion of various things on Debian channels. It’s censorship when you prevent discussion of something anywhere. Two: if you think excluding people is bad, then supporting jerks whose mysogyny repulses people isn’t compatible with that. Three: doing something in someone else’s name, that isn’t supported by them, is wrong. If you’re in a channel called “debian-something” don’t act in ways that don’t match Debian’s goals. If you want to be free to go against the principles of the DFSG by, eg, discriminating against people or groups, make up your own name for a channel.

Bernhard It is possible that you are not alone but nether are defenders of freedom if information production and distribution and in particular of freedom of speech. Trying to restrict what words people can or can not use (by labeling them sexist, racist or obscene) is the bread and butter of modern day media censorship. It is censorship and not “just political correctness”. While I would not want people trying to limit contributions to Debian only to “smart and educated white people” (racism) or “logically thinking males” (sexism), going the other way and excluding people from Debian because their remarks or way of thinking might offend someone is just offensive to me. That is against the spirit of information freedom that free software is built upon. To summarize: no one should have the power to say what you can or can not say. You personally do not have to listen to what people say if you do not like what they are saying - there are technological measures that allow you to filter people out at your end. But denying them the right to speak (or segregating them to non-Debian communication channels) is clear and simple censorship that goes against the very principles of free software.

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.

— Voltaire

I've been quietly coveting the Zonbu for a number of months now. I finally caved in and ordered one when we got back from Australia, with the intention of using it to replace minotaur, the computer that exports my RAID10 via ATA over Ethernet to my MythTV box. minotaur is the old daedalus, which I bought back around 2000. It's a VA Linux Pentium III. It's old, noisy, and has no idea what power management is. The Zonbu has more grunt than it (in terms of BogoMIPS), and it's a fraction of the size. Our linen cupboard is now significantly quieter (and hopefully cooler). Heck, hopefully the power bill will be lower as well. Anyway, I put the order in when we returned from Australia, with the expectation that it'd turn up some time while Sarah was in hospital, or shortly afterwards, and I could use the rest of the month that I was off work to play with it. Well, I got an email on the 31st of December, telling me they were out of stock, and unless I wanted to pay $29 more for one with built-in WiFi, I'd have to wait until mid-January. As I just couldn't see the point of having WiFi (or spending more money) and not needing the thing in a hurry anyway, because I had more important things to worry about in the meantime, I opted to wait. This morning, I emailed them to enquire about whether or not more stock had arrived, and they emailed back to say that they were still waiting, but they'd found one they could sell to me anyway. The company happens to be close by in Menlo Park, so I picked it up today in our travels. Let me just say that it is a very cool little computer, just if you use it for its intended purpose. It's running a customised Gentoo Linux, with a 2.6.22 kernel. I'm a bit surprised about their choice of Gentoo. I think they'd be better off partnering with Canonical, given that Mark Shuttleworth is trying to make a Linux distribution easy enough for his grandmother to use. That'd take the work of engineering the operating system out of the equation, then they could just focus on the hardware and a bit of integration with Amazon's S3. The thing I have to give them mad props for is documenting how to hack the tripe out of the box. They tell you how to enable root. They tell you how to enable PXE booting. So once I figured out that the front USB port seems to get treated slightly differently for a USB keyboard than the back ones, it was very easy to PXE boot it and install Debian. I initially started with trying to install Etch, but I kept getting missed interrupts on the CompactFlash device, which resulted in the filesystems panicking. So I gave up and went with Lenny, and presumably because it also uses 2.6.22, everything seemed to go fine. The box comes with a 4Gb CompactFlash card, which is ample for my needs. It's running the 686-optimised kernel, which is probably not ideal, but works. We'll see how things go. Interestingly, I blew another hard drive power supply, exactly like last time. I've no idea if it's the act of plugging everything back in again that's causing the problem, or they're generally flaky, and they don't fail until they're powered off and back on again. Maybe that IEC Y-cable wasn't such a good idea after all. I've now run out of spare power supplies, so I'm going to have to get some more for when these two inevitably fry themselves. Overall, I'm very pleased with this purchase, but it's a bit early to see how it's going to perform. I can't imagine it's going to perform worse than the computer it's replacing, but it was probably never intended for what I'm using it for either... Oh, and I discovered vblade-persist, which seems to be a very nice framework for managing ATA over Ethernet exports. Now I just need to get my hands on a big tub of Lego to build a nice chassis for the whole thing.

I hope I am not alone, but a community stating "Of course we are sexists" (if this is a expression of more than a individual) is in my eyes nothing that should be allowed to have debian in its name, even if it is marked as inofficial (and especially if it says "Love it or get the fuck out of there.").

Can't people find a way that is neither pseudo-moral pressure of some "political correctness" nor childish increasing of self-esteem by showing everyone how "political incorrect" you dare to be.

It’s incredible how one troll can split a channel up. It’s incredible how the sexist shit can be spread all over the place. It’s incredible, not wait, not incredible, it’s sad, sadder and sadder, to see what Debian has become. The Debian social life has become a center for dramas of all kinds, since sexist traumas, transgenders issues, people with too much free time, real good technical people leaving, freaking big farts in Debian thinking on leaving the project, elitist dolls clubs, small wannabes who think they can treat other people unrespectful. Debian itself is now its own slow killer. There has always been old people, new people, people leaving and people entering, but when you see other projects just as good as we were, some of us remain because of the social side of Debian. But is it really worthwhile? Perhaps not anymore. And because of the non-sense shit from the debian-women mailing list thread, here are a few random greps on my old logs:

Jun 11 07:19:29 <directhex work> timgoh0, for the same reason a woman in skimpy lingerie is sexier than a women in the nude, lesbians are sexier to watch than a threesome. it’s the *potential* being presented. the thinly veiled chance for the imagination to run wild Sep 13 00:23:27 <tech> women are mostly useless Sep 12 23:28:10 <tech> nvz: just stay away from women, it’s easier Mar 04 20:12:32 <nvz> women like to be refluffled Jan 13 12:50:07 <toresbe> rcox: Some idiot got out on the debian-women mailing list and said #debian-offtopic was “sexist”.

Of course we are sexists, just like we are men and women unfriendly, we laugh about nationalities, we like fluffling, make fun of others and we like to be nipple smited. Love it or get the fuck out of there. We’re an unofficial community now. Who would want to be official after all?