I took a look at a couple of bugs initially on Saturday: #387419 and #387498. Unfortunately, the
first (kdepim FTBFS on alpha) was difficult to reproduce - the alpha
machine I had available for testing was too short on memory and took a
very long time to build kdepim, long enough that after 2 days I gave
up. I couldn't reproduce the latter (system() hanging when running on
mips) on any machine I had access to - it looks like more work is
needed there... In parallel with those two RC bugs (found on Andreas'
great summary page at http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php),
I also had a very productive session working in
parallel with Christian
Perrier, fixing translation/i18n bugs in one of my own packages,
CVS. Thanks Christian, you're a pleasure to work with!
On Saturday evening, the gang of us headed into the centre of
Utrecht for a nice meal, some beer and some spirited conversation at a
Greek restaurant. I took the opportunity to talk with Frans Pop about
some of the remaining work needed for d-i and debian-cd.
On Sunday, the work continued. I was still waiting on feedback on
#387498 and my build of #387419, so I decided to make the most of the
uninterrupted time to get some debian-cd development work done. I'm
still hoping to get multi-arch CDs working before we release etch, so
this was a great help. In fact, I got so engrossed in this that I
managed to work straight through dinner...!
In terms of bugs, I must admit that I didn't do much in terms of
reducing absolute numbers. This weekend, there were a lot of bugs in
categories that don't really work well for Bug Squashing:
licensing/legal bugs (which really need discussion with the
maintainer), newly-opened bugs (IMHO it's a little rude to NMU a
package when a bug has only just been opened - give the maintainer at
least a couple of days to respond!) and deep bugs where intimate
knowledge of the package is needed. I expect there will be more to
work on next weekend in Zurich, if nothing else some of those "new"
bugs will have aged.
Early on Monday morning I caught the bus from near
Jeroen's apartment to start the journey home. Thanks to the nice
reliable public transport, I got all the way to Schiphol well in
time. Then my flight back to Stansted was delayed... :-(
It was great to meet up with a bunch of enthusiastic people. Some
I'd met before (Frans, Jeroen, Hanna). Some I met for the first time
(Thijs, Bas, Moritz and others). But all of them were working hard,
wanting to help get Etch out on time. Let's keep up
the good work!
I have a small number of photos
online.
I was one of the plain clothes who went into the Apple Store first of all. As suggested, I started on the upper floor, but I found the staff:customer ratio too unfavourable. It seems that the top floor has a lot of the expensive hard-to-secure products, so there's a lot of staff and some visible security. I had a chat with a few people, but I wandered back downstairs long before Simon's fairly visible leafletting tour was shown the door. While downstairs, I noticed the huge till queue, which was attractive for three reasons: it had no security (I guess shoplifters rarely queue for the till), most of them are standing around waiting for something to read and they are almost certainly Apple customers, so who better to inform? [...cut from feed version...] Then, I got a bit bored and started putting the leaflets into Apple's product leaflet dispensers (in front of Apple's - no leaflets were removed), which soon got me rumbled. I left and spent the next two hours helping the pavement teams, which other people have described well. I was mostly working out towards the street corners, or walking up and down with the flow of pedestrians. I tried a few of the different posters, to see how well they worked:
evan@antipater:~$ sudo grep NOQUEUE /var/log/mail.log.0 wc -l 119150 evan@antipater:~$ sudo grep qmgr.*removed /var/log/mail.log.0 wc -l 590Gee, three orders of magnitude difference... I'm getting about 50-50% on other servers. This is over the last 24 hours or so -- what a huge waste of time. tags: mail postfix spam spf email dnsbl
We went out to one of the beaches near Santa Cruz that evening,
then headed back into the city later on for drinks and dinner. We had
a very animated conversation about the use of Free Software in schools
and local government, with the Spanish people and Knut Yrvin from
Skolelinux trading interesting stories about their experiences.
On Wednesday morning, a group of us rented a car and headed inland
to visit El Teide, the huge volcano that dominates the Tenerife
skyline. It's the first time I've ever looked down on clouds from the
passenger seat of a car! We headed almost to the top, and visited the
desolate plain just down from the last summit. It looked almost like a
lunar landscape, untouched by water...
Later on that day, I headed back to the hotel in Santa Cruz and
then on to the airport to catch my return flight to England. Carlos
(again) had given up his time to chauffeur me around, and we chatting
about all sorts of things while he drove south. Unfortunately, the
flight was delayed by several hours because of mechanical problems. I
would have been happy enough to have simply waited at the airport, but
Carlos was having none of it. :-) He insisted we should go and have
dinner together; we went for drinks at a beach bar, then up to his
home village for a lovely meal. Eventually I caught my plane at
2:30am, and got back to England just in time to catch the rush hour
traffic on the M25.
I spent a lovely couple of days in Tenerife, spending time and
making friends with the very enthusiastic local Free
Software hackers. I'd love to go back again soon and see more of the
place. Thanks to all the of the people involved, you were very
welcoming!
sysvinit. It separates jobs into different “run levels” and can either run a job when particular run levels are entered (e.g. /etc/init.d/rc 2) or continually during a particular run level (e.g. /sbin/getty).
The /etc/init.d/rc script is also based on the System V one (and is in the sysv-rc package), it simply executes the stop then start scripts found in /etc/rcN.d (where N is the run level) in numerical order.
Why change it?
Running a fixed set of scripts, one after the other, in a particular order has served us reasonably well until now. However as Linux has got better and better at dealing with modern computing (arguably Linux’s removable device support is better than Windows’ now) this approach has begun to have problems.
The old approach works as long as you can guarantee when in the boot sequence things are available, so you can place your init script after that point and know that it will work. Typical ordering requirements are:
/etc/fstab./etc/fstab may require tools in /usr which is a network filesystem that cannot be mounted until after networking has been brought up.
The two states shown in red (“waiting” and “running”) are rest states, normally we expect the job to remain in these states until an event comes in, at which point we need to take actual to get the job into the next state.
The other states are temporary states; these allow a job to run shell script to prepare for the job itself to be run (“starting”) and clean up afterwards (“stopping”). For services that should be respawned if they terminate before an event that stops them is received, they may run shell script before the process is started again (“respawning”).
Jobs leave a state because the process associated with them terminates (or gets killed) and move to the next appropriate state, following the green arrow if the job is to be started or the red arrow if it is to be stopped. When a script returns a non-zero exit status, or is killed, the job will always be stoped. When the main process terminates and the job should not be respawned, the job will also always be stopped.
As already covered, events generated by the init daemon or received from other processes cause jobs to be started or stopped; also manual requests to start or stop a job may be received.
The communication between the init daemon and other processes is bi-directional, so the status of jobs may be queries and even changes of state to all jobs be received.
How does it differ from launchd?
launchd is the replacement init system used in MacOS X developed as an “Open Source” project by Apple. For much of its life so far, the licence has actually been entirely non-free and thus it has only become recently interesting with the licence change.
Much of the goal of both systems appears initially to be the same; they both start jobs based on system events, however the launchd system severly limits the events to only the following:
/etc/fstab) is available and writable.
The launchd model expects the job to “sit and wait” if it is unable to start, rather than provide a mechanism for the job to only be started when it doesn’t need to wait. Jobs that need /usr to be mounted would need to spin in a loop waiting for /usr to be available before continuing (or use a file in a tmpfs to indicate it’s available, and use that modification as the event).
This is not especially surprising given that Apple have a high degree of control over both their hardware and the actual underlying operating system; they don’t need to deal with the wide array of different configurations that we have in the Linux world.
Had the licence been sufficiently free at the point we began development of our own system, we would probably have extended launchd rather than implement our own. At the point Apple changed the licence, our own system was already more suitable for our purposes.
How does it differ from initng?
Initng by Jimmy Wennlund is another replacement init daemon intended to replace the sysvinit system used by Linux. It is a dependency-based system, where upstart is an event-based system.
The notion of a dependency-based system is interesting to talk about at this point. Jobs declare dependencies on other jobs that need to happen before the job itself can be started. Starting the job causes its dependencies to be started first, and their dependencies, and so on. When jobs are stopped, if running jobs have no dependencies, they themselves can be stopped.
It’s a neat solution to the problem of ordering a fixed boot sequence and the problem of keeping the number of running processes to a minimum needed.
However this means that you need to have goals in mind when you boot the system, you need to have decided that you want gdm to be started in order for it, and its dependencies, to be started. Initng uses run levels to ensure this happens, where a run level is a list of goal jobs that should be running in that run level.
It’s also not clear how the dependencies interact with the different types of job, a dependency on Apache would need the daemon to be running where a dependency on “checkroot” would need the script to have finished running. Upstart handles this by using different events (“apache running” vs. “checkroot stopping”).
Again while interesting, Initng does not solve the problems that we wanted to solve. It can reorder a fixed set of jobs, but cannot dynamically determine the set of jobs needed for that particular boot.
A typical example would be that if the only dependency on the job that configures networking is the mount network filesystems job, then should that job fail or notbe a goal (e.g. because there are no network filesystems to be mounted) the result is that network devices themselves will not be configured. You could make everything a goal, and just use the dependencies to determine the order, however this is less efficient than just ordering the existing sysv-rc scripts (which
can be done at install time).
Another example is that often you simply don’t know whether something is a dependency or not without reading other configuration, for example the mount network filesystems may be a dependency of everything under /usr or may just be a dependency of anything allowing the user to login if it just mounts /home.
The difference in model can be summed up as “initng starts with a list of goals and works out how to get there, upstart starts with nothing and finds out where it gets to.”
How does it differ from Solaris SMF?
SMF is another approach to replacing init developed by Sun for the Solaris operating system. Like initng it’s a dependency-based system, so see above for the differences between those systems and upstart.
SMF’s main focus is serive management; making sure that once services are running, they stay running, and allowing the system administrator to query and modify the states of jobs on the system.
Upstart provides the same set of functionality in this regard, services are respawned when they fail and system administrators can at any time query the state of running services and adjust the state to their liking.
Will it replace cron, inetd, etc?
The goal of upstart is to replace those daemons, so that there is only one place (/etc/event.d) where system administrators need to configure when and how jobs should be run.
In fact, the goal is that upstart should also replace the “run event scripts” functionality of any daemon on the system. Daemons such as acpid, apmd and Network Manager would send events to init instead of running scripts themselves with their own perculiar configuration and semantics.
A system administrator who only wanted a particular daemon to be run while the computer was on AC power would simply need to edit /etc/event.d/daemon and change “on startup” to “on ac power”.
What about compatibility?
There’s a lot of systems administrators out there who have learned how Linux works already and will not want to learn again immediately, there’s also a large number of books that cover the existing software and won’t cover upstart for at least a couple of years.
For this reason, compatibility is very important. upstart will continue to run the existing scripts for the forseeable future so that packages will not need to be updated until the author wants.
Compatibility command-line tools that behave like their existing equivalents will also be implemented, a system administrator would never need to know that crontab -e is actually changing upstart jobs.
Does it use D-BUS?
“To D-BUS people, every problem seems like a D-BUS problem.” —Erik TroanThe UNIX philosophy is that something should do just one job, and do it very well. upstart’s one job is starting, supervising and stopping other jobs; D-BUS’s one job is passing messages between other jobs. D-BUS does provide a mechanism for services to be activated when the first message is sent to them, thereby starting other jobs. Some people have taken this idea and extended it to suggest that all a replacement init system need do is register jobs with D-BUS and turn booting into a simple matter of message parsing. This seems wrong to me, D-BUS would need to be extended to supervise these services, provide means for them to be restarted and stopped; as well as deal with being process #1 which means cleaning up after children whose parent’s have died, etc. It seems far simpler to arrange for D-BUS to send an event to init when it needs a service to be started, and focus on being a very good message passing system. The IPC mechanism used by upstart is not currently D-BUS because of various problems, however it’s always been expected that even if init itself doesn’t communicate with D-BUS directly, there would be a D-BUS proxy that would ensure messages about all init jobs and events would be given to D-BUS and D-BUS clients could send messages to init to query and change the state of jobs. What is the implementation plan? Because this is process #1 we are changing, we want to make sure that we get it right. Therefore instead of releasing a fully-featured daemon and configuration to the world, we’re developing it in the following stages:
/sbin/init while running the existing sysv-rc scripts. This is the shake-down test of the daemon, can it perform the same job as the existing sysvinit daemon without any regressions?/etc/rcS.d scripts replaced by upstart jobs. These consitute the majority of tasks for booting the system into at least single-user mode, and contain many of the current ordering problems and race conditions. If the daemon solves the problems here, it will be a success.upstart package for testing before it becomes the init daemon.
We welcome any experienced users who want to help test this; install the package and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/upstart/README.Debian to add a boot option that will use upstart instead of init. If your system boots and shut downs normally (other than a slightly more verbose boot without usplash running) then it is working correctly.
Other types of events will be added as required during development and testing. Currently only a basic client tool (initctl) has been written, compatibility tools such as shutdown will be written over the next week or two before it replaces our sysvinit package.
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