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21 September 2008

Christian Perrier: The final count is 63

After a short discussion time, my proposals have been ACK'ed and we will have 63 languages supported, including English, in Debian Installer for Lenny. Etch had 58 supported languages. The final winners are (alphabetical order of ISO code): Amharic, Arabic, Belarusian, Bulgarian, Bengali, Bosnian, Catalan, Czech, Welsh, Danish, German, Dzongkha, Greek, English, Esperanto, Spanish, Basque, Finnish, French, Irish, Galician, Gujarati, Hebrew, Hindi, Croatian, Hungarian, Indonesian, Italian, Japanese, Georgian, Khmer, Korean, Kurdish, Lithuanian, Latvian, Macedonian, Malayalam, Marathi, Norwegian Bokm l, Nepali, Dutch, Norwegian Nynorsk, Punjabi, Polish, Portuguese, Brazilian Portuguese, Romanian, Russian, Northern Sami, Slovak, Slovenian, Albabian, Serbian, Swedish, Tamil, Thai, Tagalog, Turkish, Ukrainian, Vietnamese, Wolof, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese Newcomers for Lenny are: Amharic, Welsh (back), Irish, Marathi, Northern Sami, Serbian We lost Estonian which was in Etch. Those that missed the deadline are of course all other languages of the world. We will put focus on languages where an effort started at some moment but could not be complete enough: Afrikaans, Estonian, Persian, Armenian, Icelandic, Kazakh, Kannada, Kashmiri, Lao, Malagasy, Malay, Sanskrit, Secwepemctsin, Telugu, Urdu, Xhosa Many thanks to all translators for this final effort. Thanks also to all people who urgently popped up last week to complete the translations for languages that were "orphaned". I hope this will bring us more translators...:-) I keep special thanks to Frans Pop here. He is, along with me, the author of the code that allows us to split D-I translations in "sublevels", allowing translators to focus on the most "important" messages. He also implemented prior warnings when users pick up a language where some less important screens aren't translated. This also allows us to more easily keep partly complete translations, or activate languages earlier. Without this, 11 languages should have been dropped.

Christian Perrier: Between 60 and 64 languages supported in Debian Installer

(including English!) The string freeze of Debian Installer officially ended at 23:59 yesterday (Sept. 20th). Indeed, this was extended a bit to today, with agreement by Otavio Salvador who I thank for this. That allowed Zak to "save" Tagalog and also the Welsh and Latvian translators to polish their work. We now have to decide about some of these languages: those that failed to meet the release criteria but were formerly activated in D-I. There are four such languages: Amharic, Welsh, Estonian and Northern Sami. Please find below the mail I just sent to debian-i18n and debian-boot. I promised that this discussion would happen in public. It will (but it will be short as we can't delay the release of the installer for ages....and I think that my proposals are reasonable!)
First of all, the numbers as of Sunday Sept. 21st 09:32 UTC (date of
the last commit with an l10n update):
Languages meeting the release criteria: 59
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Already activated and complete for level 1: 51
 Arabic, Belarusian, Bulgarian, Bosnian, Catalan, Czech, Danish,
 German, Dzongkha, Greek, Esperanto, Spanish, Basque, Finnish, French,
 Galician, Gujarati, Hebrew, Hindi, Croatian, Hungarian, Indonesian,
 Italian, Japanese, Georgian, Khmer, Korean, Lithuanian, Latvian,
 Macedonian, Malayalam, Marathi, Norwegian Bokm l, Nepali, Dutch,
 Norwegian Nynorsk, Punjabi, Polish, Portuguese, Brazilian Portuguese,
 Romanian, Russian, Slovak, Albabian, Swedish, Tamil, Thai, Turkish,
 Vietnamese, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese
Already activated and complete for sublevels 1 and 2: 6
Bengali, Kurdish, Slovenian, Tagalog, Ukrainian, Wolof
Not yet activated languages complete for sublevels 1 and 2: 2
 (the mail in -i18n and -boot says 3 but this is an error by me)
Irish, Serbian
Languages failing to meet the release criteria: 15
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Activated languages: 4
Amharic, Welsh, Estonian, Northern Sami
Not yet activated languages: 11
Afrikaans, Persian, Armenian, Icelandic, Kazakh, Kannada,
Malagasy, Malay, Telugu, Urdu, Xhosa
Discussion
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(careful people will notice that I moved Welsh down to "failed to meet
the release criteria" as this is what is technically correct)
Nothing to discuss for the 57 already activated languages that meet
the defined criteria. They'll be kept or first activated in the RC1
release of Debian Installer.
Similarly, nothing to discuss for the 11 languages that were not
activated and haven't made it. They will remain unactivated.
Two languages should be activated as they have met the release
criteria for the first time during the string freeze: Irish and Serbian.
This adds more load (and size changes) to D-I but I really don't see
any reason to not follow our own rules there.
The discussion comes for the 4 languages that fail to meet the release
criteria. Here are my proposals with some rationale:
Amharic: 
  I would really dislike deactivating Amharic because it's highly
  symbolic to have the language of Ethiopia activated. We have so few
  African languages. Also, the translation is nearly complete and the
  translator was well coping with updates until July. The missing
  stuff for Amharic in sublevels 1 and 2 are messages about loading
  drivers or firmware from removable media, the rescue mode stuff for
  the graphical installer and some messages that briefly appear during
  finish-install. A little bit more important is the message warning
  that the boot partition is not ext2 or ext3, added in August by
  tbm. I think this is not enough to drop out one year of efforts for
  the translator
  As a consequence, I propose to KEEP Amharic.
Welsh:
  Only five strings are missing in sublevels 1 and 2 because of the
  small experience of PO files by the person who completed the
  translation during last week. One will make the regular user login
  name screen to be in English and others will make the GRUB password
  screen to be in English as well, that's all.
  Additionnally, we can safely assume that all potential users of
  Welsh have good skills in English...and will therefore very easily
  cope with these screens.
  As a consequence, I propose to KEEP Welsh.
Estonian:
  The translation had NO update since Etch. The last update is dated
  back to Feb. 17th 2007. I haven't got any sign of life from the
  translator and no Estonian users have volunteered to maintain the
  translation.
  Missing strings are in many places, including several screens that
  appear in default installs. Even though one can assume that the
  skills of the average Linux user in Estonia is fairly good, I think
  this is not enough to throw users in a big mix of English and
  Estonian.
  As a consequence, I propose to DROP Estonian.
Northern Sami:
  The translation is very incomplete. With about any other language,
  that would be a reason to drop the translation.
  However, a few reasons make me suggest keeping it:
   - Northern Sami is mostly used in Norway and D-I will fall back
     to Norwegian Bokm l which is understood by all potentials users
     as it is teached in all Norwegian schools. 
   - Users will be warned, *in Sami*, about this situation
   - The choice of Sami will be kept in localechooser even if the
     translations are dropped. This is on request of Debian Edu
     developers to avoid them to develop a special boot floppy
     to offer the choice of Sami (a requirement for Norwegian
     schools). I personnally think this is a reward to Debian Edu and
     its ancestor Skolelinux for their initial involvement in the
     development of D-I
  As a consequence, I propose to KEEP Northern Sami.
I understand that these choices may be debatable and some may sound
slightly subjective. I however think this is the best way to be fair
with translators' efforts without compromising the quality of D-I.
Please note that the final word on this will be by D-I release
managers...but advices are very much welcomed.

Zak B. Elep: Saving Tagalog from d-i Translations Removal

Thanks to pabs's and bubulle's notice on both IRC and planet, I got wind on Tagalog's impending removal from the Debian-Installer translations. Having been quite inactive on my Debian work for a while, this provided me an opportunity to get back to it, even if it were only small stuff (compared to packaging.) In the nick of time, I submitted updates to sublevels 1 (505 translations) and 2 (511 translations) of the d-i tl_PH translations; doing it twice due to my first run missing out the fuzzy translation strings. I was fortunate that the missing and fuzzy string needing translation weren't many; most of the work has already been done by pusakat and the rest of the Debian-TL team. Kudos for them on starting this in the first place! There's still a lot of work to be done, and even in d-i itself there are the other sublevels needing Tagalog translation (3 and 5.) Kung may alam ka sa Tagalog at gusto mong gamitin itong wika sa Debian, wag mahiyang kunin ang mga talakdang kailangang isalin! Others (even fellow Filipinos) may find it impractical, but I think its a worthwhile effort, to make it as accessible as possible to our fellowmen having difficulties in English. All in all, it feels good to contribute again. :)

19 September 2008

Christian Perrier: 499585

This is the highest bug number as of now. Will we turn bug #500000 this week-end? This is fairly unlikely. So, the best chances to win the bet are for Rene Mayorga. If I'm wrong and #500000 is reached before Sunday 23:59 UTC, then Fabian Fagerholm wins the bet. Suspense... Fabian, I *will* watch your own bug reports! MBF forbidden for you...:-)

Christian Perrier: More "saved" languages

This is now the last day of D-I string freeze and the suspense continues... Latvian has just been completed by Aigars: saved Albanian has been completed by Elian Myftiu who came back at the last minute (I have no other contact for that language): saved Serbian, which was very close to be activated last weeks finally got completed by Veselin Mijuskovic Welsh Linux users are attempting to requalify the language (it was de-activated in Etch) by using local language specialists apparently. As a consequence, we now have only 5 languages "in danger": Amharic, Estonian, Macedonian, Northern Sami and tagalog.

Christian Perrier: D-I l10n: the last minute rush

Hectic days... The last l10n teams are waking up and alarming messages seem to be sent in various places after my various blog posts, messages to lists, private messages, etc. (I think that the only place where I haven't yelled out for D-I translations is the street I live in). As of now, 7 languages are still in danger to be de-activated: Amharic, Estonian, Latvian, Macedonian, Northern Sami, Albanian, Tagalog Among these, Latvian and Macedonian should make it: Arangel Angov for Macedonian and Aigars Mahinovs for Latvian will probably complete the required minimum. For others, I'm afraid that Estonian, Albanian and maybe Tagalog will be deactivated. I have to think about it. I will be very sad for all of them if I have to do it. But I haven't got news from these translators for ages and I haven't been able to find any possible backup translator. For Albanian and Tagalog, that's not a surprise. For Estonian, I call this very disappointing. Northern Sami is a special case: this is the language of the Sami people in Norway, teached there in schools and important for DebianEdu...which originated in Norway and has been the pilar of D-I development a few years ago. As finding Sami translators is very difficult, I will probably keep the language (also, because it has a solid backup with Norwegian). Amharic is also special for me. The l10n effort is very specific: the translator works on ships all around the world, from his words, and can only communicate with me when he reaches a harbour. He has also been very committed to reach completeness (which he did) and the translation was only fuzzied by last minute changes in August. I'll probably fight to keep that language in D-I..:-) Still, there's one day left. So if your language is not 100% on D-I statistics for level 1, then try to do something. And, guess what? After the deadline is reached, I'll still have work to do: get as many levels 2-5 translations completed. All of these belong to regular Debian packages so they're not dependent on D-I release schedules!

18 September 2008

Gunnar Wolf: Almost 0.5Mbugs

I was already used to regularly receiving Bubulle's bug 500000 contest reports. Lately, he has been busy pushing translators to get d-i in shape - But expect notices from him soon! Right now, we sit at 499416 bug reports so far registered in the Debian BTS. We are really close to the half megabug mark!

17 September 2008

Christian Perrier: Slovenian rescued... Macedonian maybe rescued as well..and Catalan complete

After I (on purpose) posted an alarming blog entry yesterday about some languages being "endangered" in Debian Installer, I got two mail exchanges today. One with Vanja Cvelbar, who completed enough in Slovenian translations of D-I for the language to requalify for Lenny. Kudos to Vanja, the Slovenian users owe you a lot (I hope they won't hate you because the translation is bad...:-)) Another with someone from the Macedonian users group who committed self to complete Macedonian translations. So, two languages saved. What will I have to do for saving others? Should I make the promise to run naked all around the next Debconf hacklab or something similar? (I should be careful, though, they could even do it just to see this) So, well, continue to make me happy and saved a few of these languages ! PS: ah, and Jordi completed Catalan as well. So, he will still be allowed to dream about World Domination, now.

16 September 2008

Christian Perrier: Ordinary racism in action

Today, the rampant racism slightly instilled by the beloved ultra-right zealots we have for a few years at the head of my country reached the limits of my nerves. While exiting my daily train in the Meudon Val Fleury station of C line, two police guys were standing at the exit, just as this happens at least once a week. And, of course, in the crowd that was exiting, they asked for his ID to the guy walking just before me who, surprise, was "looking" as a foreigner (he's French, for the record....we take the same bus every day...but he's of Tamil origin). I was probably in the mood of being schocked today so I couldn't supprot doing nothing and be a silent witness of this. So, I just stopped, grabbed my wallet and showed *my* ID to the two policemen, politely explaining them that I was puzzled of not being controlled myself and, therefore I was volunteering for being controlled. I also grabbed my passport which I still had with me. No more incident, indeed: they had nothing to annoy me and I was very polite, not even arguing with them. Just voluntarily showing my ID. Actually, they probably didn't even look at it..:-) Maybe, it just grabbed their attention enough for a few Arab-looking guys to pass without being "controlled". Half of the crowd in the Paris public transport meets the definition of "potential illegal immigrant" for the average French policeman. I wonder what would happen if everybody in the crowd does the same. That could be an interesting passive resistance action, indeed. Still, such rampant racism is more than a concern. Mostly because it looks innocent and noone even notices. So, think about it next time you see an "innocent" police control action. Just stop for two seconds and show your ID.

Christian Perrier: No more Danish, Ukrainian, Estonian, Slovenian, Latvian, Bosnian, Macedonian in D-I?

Only four days are left and these languages, as well as Amharic, Northern Sami, Slovenian, Albanian, Tagalog are in very high danger of being disabled in Debian Installer. For Bengali, I still have some hope as someone volunteered to fill in the gap left. Catalan is still missing its 5 miserable strings but I guess I won't have the guts to disable it just because it is missing strings that warn users that the translation could be incomplete (feel free to laugh at this paradox but if you think this is stupid, just also feel free to come and fix that bug or complete the damn translation). I can now confess that we will reach a point where we will have less translations for the installer in Lenny than we had in Etch. I don't see any reason for this to change in four days. And, yes, I call this sad news as we (particularly Frans) did a lot of improvement in D-I to lower down the requirements. PS: for those who wonder why I mention only 7 languages in that post's title, I indeed picked up those I still have a small hope I can wake up someone to complete the work in these last four days.

14 September 2008

Christian Perrier: News from D-I last l10n efforts

There's only one week left for D-I translation updates. I wholeheartedly thank Otavio who agreed for such a long string freeze as it allowed me to do my best to get translations completed. And this is a huge communication effort, considering how easily the translators vanish... 46 languages are now qualified for the release, without discussion. Since my last blog entry, welcome back to Greek, Esperanto, Hungarian, Norwegian Nynorsk, Wolof. There are still uncertainties for 14 languages: Amharic, Bengali, Bosnian, Catalan, Danish, Estonian, Kurdish, Latvian, Macedonian, Northern Sami, Slovenian, Albanian, Tagalog, Ukrainian Again, several of these have *very few missing strings*. In short, if your language is among these 14, there are 6.5 days left (the end of the translation update round is on Saturday 20th midnight UTC). RUSH! What will happen in 6.5 days? I will examine the situation of each of those languages and discuss it with the D-I release managers. On a case by case basis, we will decide together to keep them or not. Etch has 58 supported languages (English included). Lenny currently has 47 that are sure. Will Lenny be the first Debian release ever with *less* supported languages in D-I than the former release? It would give some groung to my claim that Debian translators are currently escaping somewhere else (guess where?).

12 September 2008

Christian Perrier: Martin's meme

Sure, Martin, you started a meme (by the way, I roughly guessed you naming scheme which is a nice one). I wish I would have named my machines this way: patrick, bob, sandy, eugene, plankton, carlo, gary, puff, pearl, etc. (easy to guess for people who went to Debconf's day trips). Indeed, I haven't because I named the first ones too long time ago. So they're named kheops, khephren, mykerinos, snefrou, saqqarah, merenptah, amenophis, sethi, djedefre. Easy to guess. PS: 'carlo' is only for French-speaking users. For en_*, thata would be squidward.

9 September 2008

Christian Perrier: Good day for D-I l10n

Three days after I posted my last blog entry about it, a great progress was made about translation completeness for D-I. We jumped from 34 languages meeting the release criteria up to 41. Shaking out translators seems to be efficient even though t requires a big investment in time. So, welcome back to Spanish, Indonesian, Georgian, Hebrew, Khmer, Nepali, Simplified Chinese. There are still uncertainties for: Amharic, Bengali, Bosnian, Catalan, Danish, Greek, Esperanto, Estonian, Hungarian, Kurdish, Latvian, Macedonian, Norwegian Nynorsk, Northern Sami, Slovenian, Albanian, Tagalog, Ukrainian, Wolof Several of these have *very few missing strings* (as a matter of example, Catalan is only missing the strings....that warn users that the translation might be incomplete...interesting chicken-and-egg situation which could be easily solved by completing 5 miserable strings). 12 days left (the end of the translation update round is on Saturday 20th midnight UTC)....hurry!

5 September 2008

Christian Perrier: D-I string freeze status

After more than one week of string freeze for Debian Installer, here's the status (I post it daily on debian-boot and debian-i18n mailing lists). 15 days are left before the end of the string freeze 34 Languages meet the release criteria: Arabic, Belarusian, Bulgarian, Czech, German, Dzongkha, Basque, Finnish, French, Galician, Gujarati, Hindi, Croatian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Lithuanian, Malayalam, Marathi, Norwegian Bokm l, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese, Punjabi, Brazilian Portuguese, Romanian, Russian, Slovak, Swedish, Tamil, Thai, Turkish, Traditional Chinese 27 currently activated Languages *fail* and risk to be disabled et the end of the freeze: Amharic, Bengali, Bosnian, Catalan, Danish, Greek, Esperanto, Spanish, Estonian, Hebrew, Hungarian, Indonesian, Georgian, Khmer, Kurdish, Latvian, Macedonian, Nepali, Norwegian Nynorsk, Northern Sami, Slovenian, Albanian, Tagalog, Ukrainian, Wolof, Simplified Chinese 14 more languages are under work but will probably not make it: Afrikaans, Welsh, Persian, Irish, Armenian, Icelandic, Kazakh, Kannada, Malagasy, Malay, Serbian, Telugu, Urdu, Xhosa In short, this summarizes to "hurry if you don't want your language disappear from D-I"...:-)

4 September 2008

Christian Perrier: What about translations other than German and French?

I recently announced that German and French reached 100% completion in unstable for po-debconf translations (by the way, both are now 100% in lenny as well). However, l10n efforts also happen for many languages in that area, so it's time to highlight them as well: Other translation efforts are more hectic. I'd like to point the slow decrease of the work on Catalan, probably due to low manpower and other areas of interest for the old timers. I'll try to soon make such report for other areas of translation effort in Debian.

Christian Perrier: Geek portraits

Wouter has great photographic skills. Just have a look at his gallery of geek "portraits" he posted on gallery.debconf.org.

31 August 2008

Christian Perrier: Will Kartik win?

The 500000th bug day is coming. Some of you may remember the contest I launched last year for people to bet on the day bug #500000 would be reported. The bug rate in Debian is about 1000 bugs in 6 days from my survey. So, as we're now at about #497300, bug #500000 should happen in 14 days. It seems that Kartik Mistry is about to win the contest. Indeed, he will if the bug is reported between Sept. 11th and Sept. 17th which probability is very high. Folks, prepare to send cheers to India! Unless the bug rate increases a lot and Miguel "xerakko" Gea wins. Miguel, I watch you: no MBF for you! I definitely lost when Aug. 22nd came. I was betting on a small rate increase which indeed did not happen. You can start now computing the #600000 bug day. There *will* be a contest for it...unless I launch one for bug #1000000...:-)

29 August 2008

Christian Perrier: D-I string freeze started

So, the string freeze for Debian Installer was announced today. It will last until Spetember 20th 23:59 UTC. We start with 13 complete languages and 15 meeting the release criteria. 60 (59+English) languages are currently supported. How many will meet the release criteria in 22 days?

21 August 2008

Christian Perrier: Solved the Flash nightmare

Yay, Flash is now working again on my system. Since several months, I just couldn't visualize web sites using Flash anymore: Konqueror was reporting a missing plugin and Iceweasel was....crashing. As I recently got very interested in OpenStreetMap where some features use Flash, I just decided to dig in the dirt and try finding what was happening. Of course, the obvious material (gnash, konqueror-plugin-gnash, mozilla-plugin-gnash) *was* installed. So, what the heck was happening? It finally turns out that the culpri was a thing named libflash-mozplugin from the libflash source package. That thing just drops its plugin in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, does not conflict with the other plugin-prividing packages (which use alternatives). So, I don't know whether this is because it takes precedence over other plugins or because the conflict of plugins is bad, but indeed purging that package from my system just solved this out. According to #495040, this package should indeed be removed because of low maintenance mode and repeated crash reports. I just confirm this. Release Team, please flush this out...:-) PS: OK, sure "Flash Is Evil". But how can one imagine just using the web with your browser crashing on any page containing it?

18 August 2008

Christian Perrier: Debconf 8: Wunderbar!

I will probably never find time to blog about Debconf 8 and write down the pleasure I had to attend it, so let's use jetlag as an excuse for the short length of this blog entry and just mention that Debconf 8 rocked. The DC8 organizers rocked. The hotel rocked. The network team rocked. The DC8 attendees rocked. The speakers rocked. And jetlag sucks. Soon to come: my online gallery...

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