I wanted to spill the discussion of fonts from Mark’s blog and share what little I know on the topic.
So I am localising Webconverger for each locale and learning as I go. My aim is for each locale version to meet the requirements of that locale. That allows some focus, as making a distro that can hit every locale is really hard.
On my unstable system, I have somehow have 179 fonts installed.
monty$ fc-list wc -l 179Ok, 50 of them are ttf fonts. ttf fonts are what get used on the Web, so they count the most to Webconverger. I am going to ignore bitmap fonts et al for some simplicity and sanity. I am also not going to talk about hinting and anti-aliasing, though I do have opinions. :) Anyway, 50 ttfs is still too many considering the “free fonts” often don’t really replace the msttcorefonts, which I think they should really try do. The leading free fonts like Bitstream Vera Sans and DejaVu Sans look the same to me (~sans-serif) and are seriously boring. I guess they’re comparable to msttcorefont’s Verdana. Great… one down. :) Though DejaVu Sans has really good i18n coverage, another thing I’m interested in. Unfortunately i18n coverage esp. with China/Japan/Korea (CJK) markets is difficult.
sorry for Chinese there is no best font.. because China government never try hard for this; all kinds of fonts is some company create; and u know China had so log history so many great beautiful font style .. but not become computer free fonts...I think the opensource evolution model doesn’t work very well with fonts. They need to be super high quality from the outset. Throwing a bunch of fonts at the problem gets us in our current confused situation. I think it would be great if governments could settle on some core fonts instead dictated to by Microsoft, or by whatever proprietary font gains acceptance in other markets.
I wanted to spill the discussion of fonts from Mark’s blog and share what little I know on the topic and learn from the lazyweb. :)
So I am localising Webconverger for each locale and learning as I go. My aim is for each locale to have it’s own Webconverger i18n version. I hope this approach allows some focus, as making a distro that can hit every locale well is really hard.
On my unstable system, I have somehow have 179 fonts installed.
monty$ fc-list wc -l 179Ok, 50 of them are ttf fonts. ttf fonts are what get used on the Web, so they count the most to Webconverger. I am going to ignore bitmap fonts et al for some simplicity and sanity. I am also not going to talk about hinting and anti-aliasing, though I do have opinions. :) Anyway, 50 ttfs is still too many considering the “free fonts” often don’t really replace the msttcorefonts, which I think they should really try do. The leading free fonts like Bitstream Vera Sans and DejaVu Sans look the same to me (actually they are the same, thnks Panthera!) and are seriously boring. I guess they’re comparable to msttcorefont’s Verdana. Great… one down. :) Update: Mike Day informs me this is what Red Hat are doing, developing a set of fonts that are metrically equivalent to the key Microsoft fonts. DejaVu Sans has really good i18n coverage, though unfortunately i18n coverage esp. with China/Japan/Korea (CJK) markets is difficult.
So I have a Chinese friend and asked him to try a special Chinese specific Debian live build of Webconverger. He says all the Ubuntu geeks use VeraSansYuanTi. However that’s I think the opensource evolution model doesn’t work very well with fonts. They need to be super high quality from the outset. Throwing a bunch of fonts at the problem gets us in our current confused situation. Update: Henri Sivonen wisely points out that “in the case of DejaVu, adding glyphs to Vera as an open source project seems to work”. I think it would be great if governments could settle on some cultural core fonts for their locality instead of being dictated to by Microsoft, or by whatever proprietary font gains acceptance in other markets.
sorry for Chinese there is no best font..
because China government never try hard for this;
all kinds of fonts is some company create;
and u know China had so log history so many great beautiful font style
.. but not become computer free fonts…
The Atari 130XE was my first computer. Not the first computer I used, but
close. I got it around 1986, when I was in 4th grade. My dad and I bought
it at some store, probably Sears. I paid part of the money for it, and he
paid part.
I think he planned to use it for word processing, since he also got the one
piece of commercial software I ever had for it, AtariWriter Plus. We also
picked up one game for it, some kind of space battle thing on a cartridge,
with a special controller, and a huge, clunky trackball. That game never
worked (maybe it was for some other model of Atari?), so I was stuck with
playing with programming in BASIC. The Atari had a nice manual that made
this very fun to learn.
At some point in here, I think in the first year I had it, disaster struck.
I had a cup of OJ at the computer and it fell onto the keyboard. I didn't
know that you could just toss a computer in a sink and take it out and
blow-dry it and it'd be fine, so I did nothing. Until keys began to not
work, and others to repeat over and over. Not sure if the OJ etched the
circuit board, or just gummed up the connections, but the Atari was out of
operation.
A bit later, I'm not sure how long, "I" wrote to someone at Atari's offices
in Sunnyvale, CA, asking if I could get it fixed, and "I" sent it out there
and miracuously they sent back a completely new Atari. I knew it was new,
because it was much cleaner than the one I sent out. I'm not sure why I
remember doing this, since it seems likely it was really my parents writing
the letters and doing the shipping. I am still grateful to that unnamed
person at Atari, who may have known at the time he was at the last days of
the company's heyday, and sent that replacement to an already out of date
and out of warantee machine.
The several years after I got it back were probably my most productive on
the Atari. I wrote a lot of games and other programs. Often I'd see some
program on another computer, like the original Tetris, or Lode Runner on a
C64, and write up my own clone on the Atari. I did a lot of semi-original
stuff too.
I was a pretty horrible programmer, by the way. I remember whaling at code
over and over, pretty much at random, until I randomly found something that
sort of worked. Well, hey, it was just BASIC.. At one point I found a book
at the library about Atari game programming. It had one thing that blew me
away; some weird ATASCII characters that if entered just right, in the
middle of a BASIC program, would let you redefine the Atari's character
set, so you could use characters for sprite based graphics. That was some
precompiled assembly code, and while I used it, I had no idea how to change
it, or write anything like it. By the time I learned what assembly was and
started looking for an Atari Assembler, it was too late to buy one.
Anyway, the key thing was that, if I didn't write the software, I didn't
have any software. Especially a few years later there was no chance of
even buying any, and without a modem, I wasn't tied into any BBS scene. The
Atari was its own little island, with its own little colony of unique
programs growing up without fear of competition. That, and the lack of an
assembler to get really low-level (though I did plenty of PEEKs and POKEs),
defined my early programming time, and have probably defined where I went
and what I did since.
I remember when this ended. My dad got a second computer, a 286 laptop, and
I started getting ahold of programs from friends at school and putting them
on it. At one point I got ahold of Battle Chess, and I realized that here was
a game that I couldn't hope to replicate myself on the Atari. For the first
time I compared my attempts on the Atari to the wider world, and found them
wanting.
The last program I wrote for the Atari was in 1992, when I lent it to Mary
Calhoun to use as a display in the waiting room of her office and wrote a
program to handle that. This is also the only program that has my name on
it, and even a copyright notice. By then I had moved on and was clearly
trying to do programs that were more like the stuff I was seeing on the PC.
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def lotto(x, y): if x = 0: return y return lotto(x / 49, [int(x%49+1)] + y)lotto(0x09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0, []) Here's your list of lotto numbers:
[43, 25, 5, 27, 12, 13, 44, 45, 1, 6, 10, 1, 20, 30, 2, 44, 5, 20, 18, 11, 6, 34]Base 49 representation (lower digits last, shifted by 1) of the key. If you need more digits, add leading 1s. (which is the same as adding leading zeros to a decimal number).
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