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11 November 2020

Vincent Fourmond: Solution for QSoas quiz #1: averaging spectra

This post describes the solution to the Quiz #1, based on the files found there. The point is to produce both the average and the standard deviation of a series of spectra. Below is how the final averaged spectra shoud look like:
I will present here two different solutions. Solution 1: using the definition of standard deviation There is a simple solution using the definition of the standard deviation: $$\sigma_y = \sqrt <y^2> - <y> ^2 $$ in which \(<y^2>\) is the average of \(y^2\) (and so on). So the simplest solution is to construct datasets with an additional column that would contain \(y^2\), average these columns, and replace the average with the above formula. For that, we need first a companion script that loads a single data file and adds a column with \(y^2\). Let's call this script load-one.cmds:
load $ 1 
apply-formula y2=y**2 /extra-columns=1
flag /flags=processed
When this script is run with the name of a spectrum file as argument, it loads it (replaces $ 1 by the first argument, the file name), adds a column y2 containing the square of the y column, and flag it with the processed flag. This is not absolutely necessary, but it makes it much easier to refer to all the spectra when they are processed. Then to process all the spectra, one just has to run the following commands:
run-for-each load-one.cmds Spectrum-1.dat Spectrum-2.dat Spectrum-3.dat
average flagged:processed
apply-formula y2=(y2-y**2)**0.5
dataset-options /yerrors=y2
The run-for-each command runs the load-one.cmds script for all the spectra (one could also have used Spectra-*.dat to not have to give all the file names). Then, the average averages the values of the columns over all the datasets. To be clear, it finds all the values that have the same X (or very close X values) and average them, column by column. The result of this command is therefore a dataset with the average of the original \(y\) data as y column and the average of the original \(y^2\) data as y2 column. So now, the only thing left to do is to use the above equation, which is done by the apply-formula code. The last command, dataset-options, is not absolutely necessary but it signals to QSoas that the standard error of the y column should be found in the y2 column. This is now available as script method-one.cmds in the git repository.

Solution 2: use QSoas's knowledge of standard deviation The other method is a little more involved but it demonstrates a good approach to problem solving with QSoas. The starting point is that, in apply-formula, the value $stats.y_stddev corresponds to the standard deviation of the whole y column... Loading the spectra yields just a series of x,y datasets. We can contract them into a single dataset with one x column and several y columns:
load Spectrum-*.dat /flags=spectra
contract flagged:spectra
After these commands, the current dataset contains data in the form of:
lambda1	a1_1	a1_2	a1_3
lambda2	a2_1	a2_2	a2_3
...
in which the ai_1 come from the first file, ai_2 the second and so on. We need to use transpose to transform that dataset into:
0	a1_1	a2_1	...
1	a1_2	a2_2	...
2	a1_3	a2_3	...
In this dataset, values of the absorbance for the same wavelength for each dataset is now stored in columns. The next step is just to use expand to obtain a series of datasets with the same x column and a single y column (each corresponding to a different wavelength in the original data). The game is now to replace these datasets with something that looks like:
0	a_average
1	a_stddev
For that, one takes advantage of the $stats.y_average and $stats.y_stddev values in apply-formula, together with the i special variable that represents the index of the point:
apply-formula "if i == 0; then y=$stats.y_average; end; if i == 1; then y=$stats.y_stddev; end"
strip-if i>1
Then, all that is left is to apply this to all the datasets created by expand, which can be just made using run-for-datasets, and then, we reverse the splitting by using contract and transpose ! In summary, this looks like this. We need two files. The first, process-one.cmds contains the following code:
apply-formula "if i == 0; then y=$stats.y_average; end; if i == 1; then y=$stats.y_stddev; end"
strip-if i>1
flag /flags=processed
The main file, method-two.cmds looks like this:
load Spectrum-*.dat /flags=spectra
contract flagged:spectra
transpose
expand /flags=tmp
run-for-datasets process-one.cmds flagged:tmp
contract flagged:processed
transpose
dataset-options /yerrors=y2
Note some of the code above can be greatly simplified using new features present in the upcoming 3.0 version, but that is the topic for another post. About QSoasQSoas is a powerful open source data analysis program that focuses on flexibility and powerful fitting capacities. It is released under the GNU General Public License. It is described in Fourmond, Anal. Chem., 2016, 88 (10), pp 5050 5052. Current version is 2.2. You can download its source code and compile it yourself or buy precompiled versions for MacOS and Windows there.

Reproducible Builds: Reproducible Builds in October 2020

Welcome to the October 2020 report from the Reproducible Builds project. In our monthly reports, we outline the major things that we have been up to over the past month. As a brief reminder, the motivation behind the Reproducible Builds effort is to ensure flaws have not been introduced in the binaries we install on our systems. If you are interested in contributing to the project, please visit our main website.

General On Saturday 10th October, Morten Linderud gave a talk at Arch Conf Online 2020 on The State of Reproducible Builds in Arch. The video should be available later this month, but as a teaser:
The previous year has seen great progress in Arch Linux to get reproducible builds in the hands of the users and developers. In this talk we will explore the current tooling that allows users to reproduce packages, the rebuilder software that has been written to check packages and the current issues in this space.
During the Reproducible Builds summit in Marrakesh in 2019, developers from the GNU Guix, NixOS and Debian distributions were able to produce a bit-for-bit identical GNU Mes binary despite using three different versions of GCC. Since this summit, additional work resulted in a bit-for-bit identical Mes binary using tcc, and last month a fuller update was posted to this effect by the individuals involved. This month, however, David Wheeler updated his extensive page on Fully Countering Trusting Trust through Diverse Double-Compiling, remarking that:
GNU Mes rebuild is definitely an application of [Diverse Double-Compiling]. [..] This is an awesome application of DDC, and I believe it s the first publicly acknowledged use of DDC on a binary
There was a small, followup discussion on our mailing list. In openSUSE, Bernhard M. Wiedemann published his monthly Reproducible Builds status update. This month, the Reproducible Builds project restarted our IRC meetings, managing to convene twice: the first time on October 12th (summary & logs), and later on the 26th (logs). As mentioned in previous reports, due to the unprecedented events throughout 2020, there will be no in-person summit event this year. On our mailing list this month El as Alejandro posted a request for help with a local configuration

Software development This month, we tried to fix a large number of currently-unreproducible packages, including: Bernhard M. Wiedemann also reported three issues against bison, ibus and postgresql12.

Tools diffoscope is our in-depth and content-aware diff utility. Not only could you locate and diagnose reproducibility issues, it provides human-readable diffs of all kinds too. This month, Chris Lamb uploaded version 161 to Debian (later backported by Mattia Rizzolo), as well as made the following changes:
  • Move test_ocaml to the assert_diff helper. [ ]
  • Update tests to support OCaml version 4.11.1. Thanks to Sebastian Ramacher for the report. (#972518)
  • Bump minimum version of the Black source code formatter to 20.8b1. (#972518)
In addition, Jean-Romain Garnier temporarily updated the dependency on radare2 to ensure our test pipelines continue to work [ ], and for the GNU Guix distribution Vagrant Cascadian diffoscope to version 161 [ ]. In related development, trydiffoscope is the web-based version of diffoscope. This month, Chris Lamb made the following changes:
  • Mark a --help-only test as being a superficial test. (#971506)
  • Add a real, albeit flaky, test that interacts with the try.diffoscope.org service. [ ]
  • Bump debhelper compatibility level to 13 [ ] and bump Standards-Version to 4.5.0 [ ].
Lastly, disorderfs version 0.5.10-2 was uploaded to Debian unstable by Holger Levsen, which enabled security hardening via DEB_BUILD_MAINT_OPTIONS [ ] and dropped debian/disorderfs.lintian-overrides [ ].

Website and documentation This month, a number of updates to the main Reproducible Builds website and related documentation were made by Chris Lamb:
  • Add a citation link to the academic article regarding dettrace [ ], and added yet another supply-chain security attack publication [ ].
  • Reformatted the Jekyll s Liquid templating language and CSS formatting to be consistent [ ] as well as expand a number of tab characters [ ].
  • Used relative_url to fix missing translation icon on various pages. [ ]
  • Published two announcement blog posts regarding the restarting of our IRC meetings. [ ][ ]
  • Added an explicit note regarding the lack of an in-person summit in 2020 to our events page. [ ]

Testing framework The Reproducible Builds project operates a Jenkins-based testing framework that powers tests.reproducible-builds.org. This month, Holger Levsen made the following changes:
  • Debian-related changes:
    • Refactor and improve the Debian dashboard. [ ][ ][ ]
    • Track bugs which are usertagged as filesystem , fixfilepath , etc.. [ ][ ][ ]
    • Make a number of changes to package index pages. [ ][ ][ ]
  • System health checks:
    • Relax disk space warning levels. [ ]
    • Specifically detect build failures reported by dpkg-buildpackage. [ ]
    • Fix a regular expression to detect outdated package sets. [ ]
    • Detect Lintian issues in diffoscope. [ ]
  • Misc:
    • Make a number of updates to reflect that our sponsor Profitbricks has renamed itself to IONOS. [ ][ ][ ][ ]
    • Run a F-Droid maintenance routine twice a month to utilise its cleanup features. [ ]
    • Fix the target name in OpenWrt builds to ath79 from ath97. [ ]
    • Add a missing Postfix configuration for a node. [ ]
    • Temporarily disable Arch Linux builds until a core node is back. [ ]
    • Make a number of changes to our thanks page. [ ][ ][ ]
Build node maintenance was performed by both Holger Levsen [ ][ ] and Vagrant Cascadian [ ][ ][ ], Vagrant Cascadian also updated the page listing the variations made when testing to reflect changes for in build paths [ ] and Hans-Christoph Steiner made a number of changes for F-Droid, the free software app repository for Android devices, including:
  • Do not fail reproducibility jobs when their cleanup tasks fail. [ ]
  • Skip libvirt-related sudo command if we are not actually running libvirt. [ ]
  • Use direct URLs in order to eliminate a useless HTTP redirect. [ ]

If you are interested in contributing to the Reproducible Builds project, please visit the Contribute page on our website. However, you can also get in touch with us via:

10 November 2020

Thorsten Alteholz: My Debian Activities in October 2020

FTP master This month I accepted 208 packages and rejected 29. The overall number of packages that got accepted was 563, so yeah, I was not alone this month :-). Anyway, this month marked another milestone in my NEW package handling. My overall number of ACCEPTed package exceeded the magic number of 20000 packages. This is almost 30% of all packages accepted in Debian. I am a bit proud of this achievement. Debian LTS This was my seventy-sixth month that I did some work for the Debian LTS initiative, started by Raphael Hertzog at Freexian. This month my all in all workload has been 20.75h. During that time I did LTS uploads of: I also started to work on golang-1.7 and golang-1.8 Last but not least I did some days of frontdesk duties. Debian ELTS This month was the twenty eighth ELTS month. During my allocated time I uploaded: The first upload of python3.4, last month, did not build on armel, so I had to reupload an improved package this month. For amd64 and i386 the ELTS packages are built in native mode, whereas the packages on armel are cross-built. There is some magic in debian/rules of python to detect in which mode the package is built. This is important as some tests of the testsuite are not really working in cross-build-mode. Unfortunately I had to learn this the hard way The upload of libsndfile now aligns the number of fixed CVEs in all releases. Last but not least I did some days of frontdesk duties. Other stuff Despite my NEW-handling and LTS/ELTS stuff I hadn t much fun with Debian packages this month. Given the approaching freeze, I hope this will change again in November.

Jonathan Dowland: Borg, confidence in backups, GtkPod and software preservation

Over the summer I decided to migrate my backups from rdiff-backup to borg, which offers some significant advantages, in particular de-duplication, but comes at a cost of complexity, and a corresponding sense of unease about how sound my backup strategy might be. I've now hit the Point Of No Return: my second external backup drive is overdue being synced with my NAS, which will delete the last copy of the older rdiff-backup backups. Whilst I hesitate over this last action to commit to borg, something else happened. My wife wanted to put a copy of her iTunes music library on her new phone, and I couldn't find it: not only could I not find it on any of our computers, I also couldn't find a copy on the NAS, or in backups, or even in old DVD-Rs. This has further knocked my confidence in our family data management, and makes me even more nervous to commit to borg. I'm now wondering about stashing the contents of the second external backup disk on some cloud service as a fail-safe. There was one known-good copy of Sarah's music: on her ancient iPod Nano. Apple have gone to varying lengths to prevent you from copying music from an iPod. When Music is copied to an iPod, the files are stripped of all their metadata (artist, title, album, etc.) and renamed to something non-identifying (e.g. F01/MNRL.m4a), and the metadata (and correlation to the obscure file name) is saved in separate database files. The partition of the flash drive containing all this is also marked as "hidden" to prevent it appearing on macOS and Windows systems. We are lucky that the iPod is so old, because Apple went even further in more recent models, adding a layer of encryption. To get the music off the iPod, one has to undo all of these steps. Luckily, other fine folks have worked out reversing all these steps and implemented it in software such as libgpod and its frontend, GtkPod, which is still currently available as a Debian package. It mostly worked, and I got back 95% of the tracks. (It would have been nice if GtkPod had reported the tracks it hadn't recovered, it was aware they existed based on the errors it did print. But you can't have everything.) GtkPod is a quirky, erratic piece of software, that is only useful for old Apple equipment that is long out of production, prior to the introduction of the encryption. The upstream homepage is dead, and I suspect it is unmaintained. The Debian package is orphaned. It's been removed from testing, because it won't build with GCC 10. On the other hand, my experience shows that it worked, and was useful for a real problem that someone had today. I'm in two minds about GtkPod's fate. On the one hand, I think Debian has far too many packages, with a corresponding burden of maintenance responsibility (for the whole project, not just the individual package maintainers), and there's a quality problem: once upon a time, if software had been packaged in a distribution like Debian, that was a mark of quality, a vote of confidence, and you could have some hope that the software would work and integrate well with the rest of the system. That is no longer true, and hasn't been in my experience for many years. If we were more discerning about what software we included in the distribution, and what we kept, perhaps we could be a leaner distribution, faster to adapt to the changing needs in the world, and of a higher quality. On the other hand, this story about GtkPod is just one of many similar stories. Real problems have been solved in open source software, and computing historians, vintage computer enthusiasts, researchers etc. can still benefit from that software long into the future. Throwing out all this stuff in the name of "progress", could be misguided. I'm especially sad when I see the glee which people have expressed when ditching libraries like Qt4 from the archive. Some software will not be ported on to Qt5 (or Gtk3, Qt6, Gtk4, Qt7, etc., in perpetuity). Such software might be all of: unmaintained, "finished", and useful for some purpose (however niche), all at the same time.

9 November 2020

Joachim Breitner: Distributing Haskell programs in a multi-platform zip file

My maybe most impactful piece of code is tttool and the surrounding project, which allows you to create your own content for the Ravensburger Tiptoi platform. The program itself is a command line tool, and in this blog post I want to show how I go about building that program for Linux (both normal and static builds), Windows (cross-compiled from Linux), OSX (only on CI), all combined into and released as a single zip file. Maybe some of it is useful or inspiring to my readers, or can even serve as a template. This being a blob post, though, note that it may become obsolete or outdated.

Ingredients I am building on the these components: Without the nix build system and package manger I probably woudn t even attempt to pull of complex tasks that may, say, require a patched ghc. For many years I resisted learning about nix, but when I eventually had to, I didn t want to go back. This project provides an alternative Haskell build infrastructure for nix. While this is not crucial for tttool, it helps that they tend to have some cross-compilation-related patches more than the official nixpkgs. I also like that it more closely follows the cabal build work-flow, where cabal calculates a build plan based on your projects dependencies. It even has decent documentation (which is a new thing compared to two years ago). Niv is a neat little tool to keep track of your dependencies. You can quickly update them with, say niv update nixpkgs. But what s really great is to temporarily replace one of your dependencies with a local checkout, e.g. via NIV_OVERRIDE_haskellNix=$HOME/build/haskell/haskell.nix nix-instantiate -A osx-exe-bundle There is a Github action that will keep your niv-managed dependencies up-to-date. This service (proprietary, but free to public stuff up to 10GB) gives your project its own nix cache. This means that build artifacts can be cached between CI builds or even build steps, and your contributors. A cache like this is a must if you want to use nix in more interesting ways where you may end up using, say, a changed GHC compiler. Comes with GitHub actions integration.
  • CI via Github actions
Until recently, I was using Travis, but Github actions are just a tad easier to set up and, maybe more important here, the job times are high enough that you can rebuild GHC if you have to, and even if your build gets canceled or times out, cleanup CI steps still happen, so that any new nix build products will still reach your nix cache.

The repository setup All files discussed in the following are reflected at https://github.com/entropia/tip-toi-reveng/tree/7020cde7da103a5c33f1918f3bf59835cbc25b0c. We are starting with a fairly normal Haskell project, with a single .cabal file (but multi-package projects should work just fine). To make things more interesting, I also have a cabal.project which configures one dependency to be fetched via git from a specific fork. To start building the nix infrastructure, we can initialize niv and configure it to use the haskell.nix repo:
niv init
niv add input-output-hk/haskell.nix -n haskellNix
This creates nix/sources.json (which you can also edit by hand) and nix/sources.nix (which you can treat like a black box). Now we can start writing the all-important default.nix file, which defines almost everything of interest here. I will just go through it line by line, and explain what I am doing here.
  checkMaterialization ? false  :
This defines a flag that we can later set when using nix-build, by passing --arg checkMaterialization true, and which is off by default. I ll get to that flag later.
let
  sources = import nix/sources.nix;
  haskellNix = import sources.haskellNix  ;
This imports the sources as defined niv/sources.json, and loads the pinned revision of the haskell.nix repository.
  # windows crossbuilding with ghc-8.10 needs at least 20.09.
  # A peek at https://github.com/input-output-hk/haskell.nix/blob/master/ci.nix can help
  nixpkgsSrc = haskellNix.sources.nixpkgs-2009;
  nixpkgsArgs = haskellNix.nixpkgsArgs;
  pkgs = import nixpkgsSrc nixpkgsArgs;
Now we can define pkgs, which is our version of the nixpkgs package set, extended with the haskell.nix machinery. We rely on haskell.nix to pin of a suitable revision of the nixpkgs set (see how we are using their niv setup). Here we could our own configuration, overlays, etc to nixpkgsArgs. In fact, we do in
  pkgs-osx = import nixpkgsSrc (nixpkgsArgs //   system = "x86_64-darwin";  );
to get the nixpkgs package set of an OSX machine.
  # a nicer filterSource
  sourceByRegex =
    src: regexes: builtins.filterSource (path: type:
      let relPath = pkgs.lib.removePrefix (toString src + "/") (toString path); in
      let match = builtins.match (pkgs.lib.strings.concatStringsSep " " regexes); in
      ( type == "directory"  && match (relPath + "/") != null
        match relPath != null)) src;
Next I define a little helper that I have been copying between projects, and which allows me to define the input to a nix derivation (i.e. a nix build job) with a set of regexes. I ll use that soon.
  tttool-exe = pkgs: sha256:
    (pkgs.haskell-nix.cabalProject  
The cabalProject function takes a cabal project and turns it into a nix project, running cabal v2-configure under the hood to let cabal figure out a suitable build plan. Since we want to have multiple variants of the tttool, this is so far just a function of two arguments pkgs and sha256, which will be explained in a bit.
      src = sourceByRegex ./. [
          "cabal.project"
          "src/"
          "src/.*/"
          "src/.*.hs"
          ".*.cabal"
          "LICENSE"
        ];
The cabalProject function wants to know the source of the Haskell projects. There are different ways of specifying this; in this case I went for a simple whitelist approach. Note that cabal.project.freze (which exists in the directory) is not included.
      # Pinning the input to the constraint solver
      compiler-nix-name = "ghc8102";
The cabal solver doesn t find out which version of ghc to use, that is still my choice. I am using GHC-8.10.2 here. It may require a bit of experimentation to see which version works for your project, especially when cross-compiling to odd targets.
      index-state = "2020-11-08T00:00:00Z";
I want the build to be deterministic, and not let cabal suddenly pick different package versions just because something got uploaded. Therefore I specify which snapshot of the Hackage package index it should consider.
      plan-sha256 = sha256;
      inherit checkMaterialization;
Here we use the second parameter, but I ll defer the explanation for a bit.
      modules = [ 
        # smaller files
        packages.tttool.dontStrip = false;
       ] ++
These modules are essentially configuration data that is merged in a structural way. Here we say that we want the tttool binary to be stripped (saves a few megabyte).
      pkgs.lib.optional pkgs.hostPlatform.isMusl  
        packages.tttool.configureFlags = [ "--ghc-option=-static" ];
Also, when we are building on the musl platform, that s when we want to produce a static build, so let s pass -static to GHC. This seems to be enough in terms of flags to produce static binaries. It helps that my project is using mostly pure Haskell libraries; if you link against C libraries you might have to jump through additional hoops to get static linking going. The haskell.nix documentation has a section on static building with some flags to cargo-cult.
        # terminfo is disabled on musl by haskell.nix, but still the flag
        # is set in the package plan, so override this
        packages.haskeline.flags.terminfo = false;
       ;
This (again only used when the platform is musl) seems to be necessary to workaround what might be a big in haskell.nix.
     ).tttool.components.exes.tttool;
The cabalProject function returns a data structure with all Haskell packages of the project, and for each package the different components (libraries, tests, benchmarks and of course executables). We only care about the tttool executable, so let s project that out.
  osx-bundler = pkgs: tttool:
   pkgs.stdenv.mkDerivation  
      name = "tttool-bundle";
      buildInputs = [ pkgs.macdylibbundler ];
      builder = pkgs.writeScript "tttool-osx-bundler.sh" ''
        source $ pkgs.stdenv /setup
        mkdir -p $out/bin/osx
        cp $ tttool /bin/tttool $out/bin/osx
        chmod u+w $out/bin/osx/tttool
        dylibbundler \
          -b \
          -x $out/bin/osx/tttool \
          -d $out/bin/osx \
          -p '@executable_path' \
          -i /usr/lib/system \
          -i $ pkgs.darwin.Libsystem /lib
      '';
     ;
This function, only to be used on OSX, takes a fully build tttool, finds all the system libraries it is linking against, and copies them next to the executable, using the nice macdylibbundler. This way we can get a self-contained executable. A nix expert will notice that this probably should be written with pkgs.runCommandNoCC, but then dylibbundler fails because it lacks otool. This should work eventually, though.
in rec  
  linux-exe      = tttool-exe pkgs
     "0rnn4q0gx670nzb5zp7xpj7kmgqjmxcj2zjl9jqqz8czzlbgzmkh";
  windows-exe    = tttool-exe pkgs.pkgsCross.mingwW64
     "01js5rp6y29m7aif6bsb0qplkh2az0l15nkrrb6m3rz7jrrbcckh";
  static-exe     = tttool-exe pkgs.pkgsCross.musl64
     "0gbkyg8max4mhzzsm9yihsp8n73zw86m3pwvlw8170c75p3vbadv";
  osx-exe        = tttool-exe pkgs-osx
     "0rnn4q0gx670nzb5zp7xpj7kmgqjmxcj2zjl9jqqz8czzlbgzmkh";
Time to create the four versions of tttool. In each case we use the tttool-exe function from above, passing the package set (pkgs, ) and a SHA256 hash. The package set is either the normal one, or it is one of those configured for cross compilation, building either for Windows or for Linux using musl, or it is the OSX package set that we instantiated earlier. The SHA256 hash describes the result of the cabal plan calculation that happens as part of cabalProject. By noting down the expected result, nix can skip that calculation, or fetch it from the nix cache etc. How do we know what number to put there, and when to change it? That s when the --arg checkMaterialization true flag comes into play: When that is set, cabalProject will not blindly trust these hashes, but rather re-calculate them, and tell you when they need to be updated. We ll make sure that CI checks them.
  osx-exe-bundle = osx-bundler pkgs-osx osx-exe;
For OSX, I then run the output through osx-bundler defined above, to make it independent of any library paths in /nix/store. This is already good enough to build the tool for the various systems! The rest of the the file is related to packaging up the binaries, to tests, and various other things, but nothing too essentially. So if you got bored, you can more or less stop now.
  static-files = sourceByRegex ./. [
    "README.md"
    "Changelog.md"
    "oid-decoder.html"
    "example/.*"
    "Debug.yaml"
    "templates/"
    "templates/.*\.md"
    "templates/.*\.yaml"
    "Audio/"
    "Audio/digits/"
    "Audio/digits/.*\.ogg"
  ];
  contrib = ./contrib;
The final zip file that I want to serve to my users contains a bunch of files from throughout my repository; I collect them here.
  book =  ;
The project comes with documentation in the form of a Sphinx project, which we build here. I ll omit the details, because they are not relevant for this post (but of course you can peek if you are curious).
  os-switch = pkgs.writeScript "tttool-os-switch.sh" ''
    #!/usr/bin/env bash
    case "$OSTYPE" in
      linux*)   exec "$(dirname "''$ BASH_SOURCE[0] ")/linux/tttool" "$@" ;;
      darwin*)  exec "$(dirname "''$ BASH_SOURCE[0] ")/osx/tttool" "$@" ;;
      msys*)    exec "$(dirname "''$ BASH_SOURCE[0] ")/tttool.exe" "$@" ;;
      cygwin*)  exec "$(dirname "''$ BASH_SOURCE[0] ")/tttool.exe" "$@" ;;
      *)        echo "unsupported operating system $OSTYPE" ;;
    esac
  '';
The zipfile should provide a tttool command that works on all systems. To that end, I implement a simple platform switch using bash. I use pks.writeScript so that I can include that file directly in default.nix, but it would have been equally reasonable to just save it into nix/tttool-os-switch.sh and include it from there.
  release = pkgs.runCommandNoCC "tttool-release"  
    buildInputs = [ pkgs.perl ];
    ''
    # check version
    version=$($ static-exe /bin/tttool --help perl -ne 'print $1 if /tttool-(.*) -- The swiss army knife/')
    doc_version=$(perl -ne "print \$1 if /VERSION: '(.*)'/" $ book /book.html/_static/documentation_options.js)
    if [ "$version" != "$doc_version" ]
    then
      echo "Mismatch between tttool version \"$version\" and book version \"$doc_version\""
      exit 1
    fi
Now the derivation that builds the content of the release zip file. First I double check that the version number in the code and in the documentation matches. Note how $ static-exe refers to a path with the built static Linux build, and $ book the output of the book building process.
    mkdir -p $out/
    cp -vsr $ static-files /* $out
    mkdir $out/linux
    cp -vs $ static-exe /bin/tttool $out/linux
    cp -vs $ windows-exe /bin/* $out/
    mkdir $out/osx
    cp -vsr $ osx-exe-bundle /bin/osx/* $out/osx
    cp -vs $ os-switch  $out/tttool
    mkdir $out/contrib
    cp -vsr $ contrib /* $out/contrib/
    cp -vsr $ book /* $out
  '';
The rest of the release script just copies files from various build outputs that we have defined so far. Note that this is using both static-exe (built on Linux) and osx-exe-bundle (built on Mac)! This means you can only build the release if you either have setup a remote osx builder (a pretty nifty feature of nix, which I unfortunately can t use, since I don't have access to a Mac), or the build product must be available in a nix cache (which it is in my case, as I will explain later). The output of this derivation is a directory with all the files I want to put in the release.
  release-zip = pkgs.runCommandNoCC "tttool-release.zip"  
    buildInputs = with pkgs; [ perl zip ];
    ''
    version=$(bash $ release /tttool --help perl -ne 'print $1 if /tttool-(.*) -- The swiss army knife/')
    base="tttool-$version"
    echo "Zipping tttool version $version"
    mkdir -p $out/$base
    cd $out
    cp -r $ release /* $base/
    chmod u+w -R $base
    zip -r $base.zip $base
    rm -rf $base
  '';
And now these files are zipped up. Note that this automatically determines the right directory name and basename for the zipfile. This concludes the step necessary for a release.
  gme-downloads =  ;
  tests =  ;
These two definitions in default.nix are related to some simple testing, and again not relevant for this post.
  cabal-freeze = pkgs.stdenv.mkDerivation  
    name = "cabal-freeze";
    src = linux-exe.src;
    buildInputs = [ pkgs.cabal-install linux-exe.env ];
    buildPhase = ''
      mkdir .cabal
      touch .cabal/config
      rm cabal.project # so that cabal new-freeze does not try to use HPDF via git
      HOME=$PWD cabal new-freeze --offline --enable-tests   true
    '';
    installPhase = ''
      mkdir -p $out
      echo "-- Run nix-shell -A check-cabal-freeze to update this file" > $out/cabal.project.freeze
      cat cabal.project.freeze >> $out/cabal.project.freeze
    '';
   ;
Above I mentioned that I still would like to be able to just run cabal, and ideally it should take the same library versions that the nix-based build does. But pinning the version of ghc in cabal.project is not sufficient, I also need to pin the precise versions of the dependencies. This is best done with a cabal.project.freeze file. The above derivation runs cabal new-freeze in the environment set up by haskell.nix and grabs the resulting cabal.project.freeze. With this I can run nix-build -A cabal-freeze and fetch the file from result/cabal.project.freeze and add it to the repository.
  check-cabal-freeze = pkgs.runCommandNoCC "check-cabal-freeze"  
      nativeBuildInputs = [ pkgs.diffutils ];
      expected = cabal-freeze + /cabal.project.freeze;
      actual = ./cabal.project.freeze;
      cmd = "nix-shell -A check-cabal-freeze";
      shellHook = ''
        dest=$ toString ./cabal.project.freeze 
        rm -f $dest
        cp -v $expected $dest
        chmod u-w $dest
        exit 0
      '';
      ''
      diff -r -U 3 $actual $expected  
          echo "To update, please run"; echo "nix-shell -A check-cabal-freeze"; exit 1;  
      touch $out
    '';
But generated files in repositories are bad, so if that cannot be avoided, at least I want a CI job that checks if they are up to date. This job does that. What s more, it is set up so that if I run nix-shell -A check-cabal-freeze it will update the file in the repository automatically, which is much more convenient than manually copying. Lately, I have been using this pattern regularly when adding generated files to a repository: * Create one nix derivation that creates the files * Create a second derivation that compares the output of that derivation against the file in the repo * Create a derivation that, when run in nix-shell, updates that file. Sometimes that derivation is its own file (so that I can just run nix-shell nix/generate.nix), or it is merged into one of the other two. This concludes the tour of default.nix.

The CI setup The next interesting bit is the file .github/workflows/build.yml, which tells Github Actions what to do:
name: "Build and package"
on:
  pull_request:
  push:
Standard prelude: Run the jobs in this file upon all pushes to the repository, and also on all pull requests. Annoying downside: If you open a PR within your repository, everything gets built twice. Oh well.
jobs:
  build:
    strategy:
      fail-fast: false
      matrix:
        include:
        - target: linux-exe
          os: ubuntu-latest
        - target: windows-exe
          os: ubuntu-latest
        - target: static-exe
          os: ubuntu-latest
        - target: osx-exe-bundle
          os: macos-latest
    runs-on: $  matrix.os  
The build job is a matrix job, i.e. there are four variants, one for each of the different tttool builds, together with an indication of what kind of machine to run this on.
    - uses: actions/checkout@v2
    - uses: cachix/install-nix-action@v12
We begin by checking out the code and installing nix via the install-nix-action.
    - name: "Cachix: tttool"
      uses: cachix/cachix-action@v7
      with:
        name: tttool
        signingKey: '$  secrets.CACHIX_SIGNING_KEY  '
Then we configure our Cachix cache. This means that this job will use build products from the cache if possible, and it will also push new builds to the cache. This requires a secret key, which you get when setting up your Cachix cache. See the nix and Cachix tutorial for good instructions.
    - run: nix-build --arg checkMaterialization true -A $  matrix.target  
Now we can actually run the build. We set checkMaterialization to true so that CI will tell us if we need to update these hashes.
    # work around https://github.com/actions/upload-artifact/issues/92
    - run: cp -RvL result upload
    - uses: actions/upload-artifact@v2
      with:
        name: tttool ($  matrix.target  )
        path: upload/
For convenient access to build products, e.g. from pull requests, we store them as Github artifacts. They can then be downloaded from Github s CI status page.
  test:
    runs-on: ubuntu-latest
    needs: build
    steps:
    - uses: actions/checkout@v2
    - uses: cachix/install-nix-action@v12
    - name: "Cachix: tttool"
      uses: cachix/cachix-action@v7
      with:
        name: tttool
        signingKey: '$  secrets.CACHIX_SIGNING_KEY  '
    - run: nix-build -A tests
The next job repeats the setup, but now runs the tests. Because of needs: build it will not start before the builds job has completed. This also means that it should get the actual tttool executable to test from our nix cache.
  check-cabal-freeze:
    runs-on: ubuntu-latest
    steps:
    - uses: actions/checkout@v2
    - uses: cachix/install-nix-action@v12
    - name: "Cachix: tttool"
      uses: cachix/cachix-action@v7
      with:
        name: tttool
        signingKey: '$  secrets.CACHIX_SIGNING_KEY  '
    - run: nix-build -A check-cabal-freeze
The same, but now running the check-cabal-freeze test mentioned above. Quite annoying to repeat the setup instructions for each job
  package:
    runs-on: ubuntu-latest
    needs: build
    steps:
    - uses: actions/checkout@v2
    - uses: cachix/install-nix-action@v12
    - name: "Cachix: tttool"
      uses: cachix/cachix-action@v7
      with:
        name: tttool
        signingKey: '$  secrets.CACHIX_SIGNING_KEY  '
    - run: nix-build -A release-zip
    - run: unzip -d upload ./result/*.zip
    - uses: actions/upload-artifact@v2
      with:
        name: Release zip file
        path: upload
Finally, with the same setup, but slightly different artifact upload, we build the release zip file. Again, we wait for build to finish so that the built programs are in the nix cache. This is especially important since this runs on linux, so it cannot build the OSX binary and has to rely on the cache. Note that we don t need to checkMaterialization again. Annoyingly, the upload-artifact action insists on zipping the files you hand to it. A zip file that contains just a zipfile is kinda annoying, so I unpack the zipfile here before uploading the contents.

Conclusion With this setup, when I do a release of tttool, I just bump the version numbers, wait for CI to finish building, run nix-build -A release-zip and upload result/tttool-n.m.zip. A single file that works on all target platforms. I have not yet automated making the actual release, but with one release per year this is fine. Also, when trying out a new feature, I can easily create a branch or PR for that and grab the build products from Github s CI, or ask people to try them out (e.g. to see if they fixed their bugs). Note, though, that you have to sign into Github before being able to download these artifacts. One might think that this is a fairly hairy setup finding the right combinations of various repertories so that cross-compilation works as intended. But thanks to nix s value propositions, this does work! The setup presented here was a remake of a setup I did two years ago, with a much less mature haskell.nix. Back then, I committed a fair number of generated files to git, and juggled more complex files but once it worked, it kept working for two years. I was indeed insulated from upstream changes. I expect that this setup will also continue to work reliably, until I choose to upgrade it again. Hopefully, then things are even more simple, and require less work-around or manual intervention.

8 November 2020

Sean Whitton: Combining repeat and repeat-complex-command

In Emacs, you can use C-x z to repeat the last command you input, and subsequently you can keep tapping the z key to execute that command again and again. If the command took minibuffer input, however, you ll be asked for that input again. For example, suppose you type M-z : to delete through the next colon character. If you want to keep going and delete through the next few colons, you would need to use C-x z : z : z : etc. which is pretty inconvenient. So there s also C-x ESC ESC RET or C-x M-: RET, which will repeat the last command which took minibuffer input, as if you d given it the same minibuffer input. So you could use M-z : C-x M-: RET C-x M-: RET etc., but then you might as well just keep typing M-z : over and over. It s also quite inconvenient to have to remember whether you need to use C-x z or C-x M-: RET. I wanted to come up with a single command which would choose the correct repetition method. It turns out it s a bit involved, but here s what I came up with. You can use this under the GPL-3 or any later version published by the FSF. Assumes lexical binding is turned on for the file you have this in.
;; Adapted from  repeat-complex-command&apos as of November 2020
(autoload &aposrepeat-message "repeat")
(defun spw/repeat-complex-command-immediately (arg)
  "Like  repeat-complex-command&apos followed immediately by RET."
  (interactive "p")
  (if-let ((newcmd (nth (1- arg) command-history)))
      (progn
        (add-to-history &aposcommand-history newcmd)
        (repeat-message "Repeating %S" newcmd)
        (apply #&aposfuncall-interactively
               (car newcmd)
               (mapcar (lambda (e) (eval e t)) (cdr newcmd))))
    (if command-history
        (error "Argument %d is beyond length of command history" arg)
      (error "There are no previous complex commands to repeat"))))
(let (real-last-repeatable-command)
  (defun spw/repeat-or-repeat-complex-command-immediately ()
    "Call  repeat&apos or  spw/repeat-complex-command-immediately&apos as appropriate.

Note that no prefix argument is accepted because this has
different meanings for  repeat&apos and for
 spw/repeat-complex-command-immediately&apos, so that might cause surprises."
    (interactive)
    (if (eq last-repeatable-command this-command)
        (setq last-repeatable-command real-last-repeatable-command)
      (setq real-last-repeatable-command last-repeatable-command))
    (if (eq last-repeatable-command (caar command-history))
        (spw/repeat-complex-command-immediately 1)
      (repeat nil))))
;;  suspend-frame&apos is bound to both C-x C-z and C-z
(global-set-key "\C-z" #&aposspw/repeat-or-repeat-complex-command-immediately)

Ian Jackson: Gazebo out of scaffolding

Today we completed our gazebo, which we designed and built out of scaffolding: Picture of gazebo Scaffolding is fairly expensive but building things out of it is enormous fun! You can see a complete sequence of the build process, including pictures of the "engineering maquette", at https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ijackson/2020/scaffold/ Post-lockdown maybe I will build a climbing wall or something out of it...
edited 2020-11-08 20:44Z to fix img url following hosting reorg


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5 November 2020

Mike Gabriel: Welcome, Fre(i)e Software GmbH

Last week I received the official notice: There is now a German company named "Fre(i)e Software GmbH" registered with the German Trade Register. Founding a New Company Over the past months I have put my energy into founding a new company. As a freelancing IT consultant I started facing the limitation of other companies having strict policies that forbid the cooperation with one person businesses (Personengesellschaften). Thus, the requirement for setting up a GmbH business came onto my agenda. I will move some of my business activities into this new company, starting next year. Policy Ideas The "Fre(i)e Software GmbH" will be a platform to facilitate the growth and spreading of Free Software on this planet. Here are some first ideas for company policies: This is all pretty fresh. I'll be happy about hearing your feedback, ideas and worries. If you are interested in joining the company, please let me know. If you are interested in supporting a company with such values, please also let me know. light+love
Mike Gabriel (aka sunweaver)

Junichi Uekawa: Sent a pull request to document sshfs slave mode.

Sent a pull request to document sshfs slave mode. Every time I try to do it I forget, so at least I have a document about how to do it. Also changed the name from slave to passive, but I don't think that will help me remember... Not feeling particularly creative about the name.

4 November 2020

Ben Hutchings: Debian LTS work, October 2020

I was assigned 6.25 hours of work by Freexian's Debian LTS initiative and carried over 17.5 hours from earlier months. I worked 11.5 hours this month and returned 7.75 hours to the pool, so I will carry over 4.5 hours to December. I updated linux-4.19 to include the changes in DSA-4772-1, and issued DLA-2417-1 for this. I updated linux (4.9 kernel) to include upstream stable fixes, and issued DLA-2420-1. This resulted in a regression on some Xen PV environments. Ian Jackson identified the upstream fix for this, which had not yet been applied to all the stable branches that needed it. I made a further update with just that fix, and issued DLA-2420-2. I have also been working to backport fixes for some less urgent security issues in Linux 4.9, but have not yet applied those fixes.

Christian Kastner: qemu-sbuild-utils 0.1: sbuild with QEMU

qemu-sbuild-utils, which were recently accepted into unstable, are a collection of scripts that wrap standard features of sbuild, autopkgtest-build-qemu and vmdb2 to provide a trivial interface for creating and using QEMU-based environments for package building:
  • qemu-sbuild-create creates VM images
  • qemu-sbuild-update is to VM images what sbuild-update is to chroots
  • qemu-sbuild wraps sbuild, adding all necessary (and some useful) options for autopkgtest mode.
Here's a simple two-line example for creating an image, and then using it to build a package:
$ sudo qemu-sbuild-create -o simple.img unstable http://deb.debian.org/debian

$ qemu-sbuild --image simple.img -d unstable [sbuild-options] FOO.dsc
That's it. Both qemu-sbuild-create and qemu-sbuild automate certain things, but also accept a number of options. For example, qemu-sbuild-create can install additional packages either from one of the APT sources, or .deb packages from the local filesystem. qemu-sbuild will pass on every option it does not consume itself to sbuild, so it should mostly work as a drop-in replacement for it (see the Limitations section below for where it doesn't). The created images can also be used for running autopkgtest itself, of course.
Advantages Excellent isolation. One can go nuts in an environment, change or even break things, and the VM can always simply be reset, or rolled back to an earlier state. Snapshots are just terrific for so many reasons. With KVM acceleration and a fast local APT cache, builds are really fast. There's an overhead of a few seconds for booting the VM on my end, but that overhead is negligible in comparison to the overall build time. On the upside, with everything being memory-backed, even massive dependency installations are lightning fast. With the parameters of the target environment being configurable, it's possible to test builds in various settings (for example: single-core vs. multi-core, or with memory constraints). Technically, it should be possible to emulate, on one host, any other guest architecture (even if emulation might be slow because of missing hardware acceleration). This would present an attractive alternative to (possibly distant and/or slow) porter boxes. However, support for that in qemu-sbuild-utils is not quite there yet.
Limitations The utilities are currently only available on the amd64 architecture, for building packages in amd64 and i386 VMs. There are plans to support arm64 in the near future. qemu-sbuild-create needs root, for the debootstrap stage. I'm looking into ways around this (by extending vmdb2). In any case, image updating and package building do not need privileges. autopkgtest mode does not yet support interactivity, so one cannot drop into a shell with --build-failed-commands, for example. The easy workaround is to connect to the VM with SSH. For this, the image must contain the openssh-server package.
Alternatives I looked at qemubuilder, but had troubles getting it to work. In any case, the autopkgtest chroot mode of sbuild seemed far more powerful and useful to me. vectis looks incredibly promising, but I had already written qemu-sbuild-utils by the time I stumbled over it, and as my current setup works well for me for now and is simple enough to maintain, I decided to polish and publish it. I'm also looking into Docker- and other namespace-based isolation solutions (of which there are many), which I think are the way forward for the majority of packages (those that aren't too close to the kernel and/or hardware). Rather than relying on the kernel for isolation, KVM-based solutions like Amazon's Firecracker and QEMU's microvm machine type provide minimal VMs with almost no boot overhead. Firecracker, for example, claims less than 125ms from launch to /sbin/init. Investigating these is a medium-term project for me.
Why not schroot? I have a strong aversion towards chroot-based build environments. The concept is archaic. Far superior software- and/or hardware-based technologies for process isolation have emerged in the past two decades, and I think it is high time to leave chroot-based solutions behind.
Acknowledgments These utilities are just high-level abstractions. All the heavy lifting is done by sbuild, autopkgtest, and vmdb2.

Norbert Preining: Debian KDE/Plasma Status 2020-11-04

About a month worth of updates on KDE/Plasma in Debian has accumulated, so here we go. The highlights are: Plasma 5.19.5 based on Qt 5.15 is in Debian/experimental and hopefully soon in Debian/unstable, and my own builds at OBS have been updated to Plasma 5.20.2, Frameworks 5.75, Apps 20.08.2. Thanks to the dedicated work of the Qt maintainers, Qt 5.15 has finally entered Debian/unstable and we can finally target Plasma 5.20. OBS packages The OBS packages as usual follow the latest release, and currently ship KDE Frameworks 5.75, KDE Apps 20.08.2, and new, Plasma 5.20.2. The package sources are as usual (note the different path for the Plasma packages and the App packages, containing the release version!), for Debian/unstable:
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma520/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2008/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/ ./
and the same with Testing instead of Unstable for Debian/testing. The update to Plasma 5.20 took a bit of time, not only because of the wait for Qt 5.15, but also because I couldn t get it running on my desktop, only in the VM. It turned out that the Plasmoid Event Calendar needed an update, and the old version crashed Plasma ( v68 and below crash in Arch after the Qt 5.15.1 update. ). After I realized that, it was only a question of updating to get Plasma 5.20 running. There are two points I have to mention (and I will fix sooner or later): As usual, let me know your experience! Debian main packages The packages in Debian/experimental are at the most current state, 5.19.5. We have waited with the upload to unstable until the Qt 5.15 transition is over, but hope to upload to unstable rather soon. After the upload is done, we will work on getting 5.20 into unstable. My aim is to get the most recent version of Plasma 5.20 into Debian Bullseye, so we need to do that before the freeze early next year. Let us hope for the best.

3 November 2020

Martin-&#201;ric Racine: Adding IPv6 support to my home LAN

A couple of year ago, I moved into a new flat that comes with RJ45 sockets wired for 10 Gigabit (but currently offering 1 Gigabit) Ethernet.This also meant changing the settings on my router box for my new ISP.I took this opportunity to review my router's other settings too. I'll be blogging about these over the next few posts. Adding IPv6 support to my home LAN I have been following the evolution of IPv6 ever since the KAME project produced the first IPv6 implementation. I have also been keeping track of the IPv4 address depletion. Around the time the IPv6 Day was organized in 2011, I started investigating the situation of IPv6 support at local ISPs. Well, never mind all those rumors about Finland being some high-tech mecca. Back then, no ISP went beyond testing their routers for IPv6 compatibility and producing white papers on what their limited test deployments accomplished. Not that it matters much, in practice. Most IPv6 documentation out there, including Debian's own, still focuses on configuring transitional mechanisms, especially how to connect to a public IPv6 tunnel broker. Relocating to a new flat and rethinking my home network to match gave me an opportunity to revisit the topic. Much to my delight, my current ISP offers native IPv6. This prompted me to go back and read up on IPv6 one more time. One important detail: IPv6 hosts are globally reachable. The implications of this don't immediately spring to mind for someone used to IPv4 network address translation (NAT): Any network service running on an IPv6 host can be reached by anyone anywhere. Contrary to IPv4, there is no division between private and public IP addresses. Whereas a device behind an IPv4 NAT essentially is shielded from the outside world, IPv6 breaks this assumption in more than one way. Not only is the host reachable from anywhere, its default IPv6 address is a mathematical conversion (EUI-64) of the network interface's MAC address, which makes every connection forensically traceable to a unique device. Basically, if you hadn't given much thought to firewalls until now, IPv6 should give you enough goose bumps to get around it. Tightening the configuration of every network service is also an absolute must. For instance, I configured sshd to only listen to private IPv4 addresses. What /etc/network/interfaces might look like on an dual-stack (IPv4 + IPv6) host:
allow-hotplug enp9s0
iface enp9s0 inet dhcp
iface enp9s0 inet6 auto
	privext 2
	dhcp 1
The auto method means that IPv6 will be auto-configured using SLAAC; privext 2 enables IPv6 privacy options and specifies that we prefer connecting via the randomly-generated IPv6 address, rather than the EUI-64 calculated MAC specific address; dhcp 1 enables passive DHCPv6 to fetch additional routing information. The above works for most desktop and laptop configurations. Where things got more complicated is on the router. I decided early on to keep NAT to provide an IPv4 route to the outside world. Now how exactly is IPv6 routing done? Every node along the line must have its own IPv6 address... including the router's LAN interface. This is accomplished using the sample script found in Debian's IPv6 prefix delegation wiki page. I modified mine as follows (the rest of the script is omitted for clarity):
#Both LAN interfaces on my private network are bridged via br0
IA_PD_IFACE="br0"
IA_PD_SERVICES="dnsmasq"
IA_PD_IPV6CALC="/usr/bin/ipv6calc"
Just put the script at the suggested location. We'll need to request a prefix on the router's outside interface to utilize it. This gives us the following interfaces file:
allow-hotplug enp2s4 enp2s8 enp2s9
auto br0
iface enp2s4 inet dhcp
iface enp2s4 inet6 auto
	request_prefix 1
	privext 2
	dhcp 1
iface enp2s8 inet manual
iface enp2s8 inet6 manual
iface enp2s9 inet manual
iface enp2s9 inet6 manual
iface br0 inet static
	bridge_ports enp2s8 enp2s9
	address 10.10.10.254
iface br0 inet6 manual
	bridge_ports enp2s8 enp2s9
	# IPv6 from /etc/dhcp/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/prefix_delegation
The IPv4 NAT and IPv6 Bridge script on my router looks as follows:
#!/bin/sh
PATH="/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin"
wan=enp2s4
lan=br0
########################################################################
# IPv4 NAT
iptables -F; iptables -t nat -F; iptables -t mangle -F
iptables -X; iptables -t nat -X; iptables -t mangle -X
iptables -Z; iptables -t nat -Z; iptables -t mangle -Z
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $wan -j MASQUERADE
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
########################################################################
# IPv6 bridge
ip6tables -F; ip6tables -X; ip6tables -Z
# Default policy DROP
ip6tables -P FORWARD DROP
# Allow ICMPv6 forwarding
ip6tables -A FORWARD -p ipv6-icmp -j ACCEPT
# Allow established connections
ip6tables -I FORWARD -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
# Accept packets FROM LAN to everywhere
ip6tables -I FORWARD -i $lan -j ACCEPT
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/default/forwarding
# IPv6 propagation via /etc/dhcp/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/prefix_delegation
The above already provided enough IPv6 connectivity to pass the IPv6 test on my desktop inside the LAN. To make things more fun, I enabled DHCPv6 support for my LAN on the router's dnsmasq by adding the last 3 lines to the configuration:
dhcp-hostsfile=/etc/dnsmasq-ethersfile
bind-interfaces
interface=br0
except-interface=enp2s4
no-dhcp-interface=enp2s4
dhcp-range=tag:br0,10.10.10.0,static,infinite
dhcp-range=tag:br0,::1,constructor:br0,ra-names,ra-stateless,infinite
enable-ra
dhcp-option=option6:dns-server,[::],[2606:4700:4700::1111],[2001:4860:4860::8888]
The 5 first lines (included here for emphasis) are extremely important: they ensure that dnsmasq won't provide any IPv4 or IPv6 service to the outside interface (enp2s4) and that DHCP will only be provided for LAN hosts whose MAC address is known. Line 6 shows how dnsmasq's DHCP service syntax differs between IPv4 and IPv6. The rest of my configuration was omitted on purpose. Enabling native IPv6 on my LAN has been an interesting experiment. I'm sure that someone could come up with even better ip6tables rules for the router or for my desktop hosts. Feel free to mention them in the blog's comment.

Martin-&#201;ric Racine: GRUB fine-tuning

A couple of years ago, I moved into a new flat that comes with RJ45 sockets wired for 10 Gigabit (but currently offering 1 Gigabit) Ethernet.This also meant changing the settings on my router box for my new ISP.I took this opportunity to review my router's other settings too. I'll be blogging about these over the next few posts. GRUB fine-tuning One thing that had been annoying me ever since Debian migrated to systemd as /sbin/init is that boot message verbosity hasn't been the same. Previously, the cmdline option quiet merely suppressed the kernel's output to the bootscreen, but left the daemon startup messages alone. Not anymore. Nowadays, quiet produces a blank screen. After some googling, I found the solution to that: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet loglevel=5" The former restores daemon startup messages, while the later makes the kernel output only significant notices or more serious messages. On most of my hosts, it mostly reports inconsistencies in the ACPI configuration of the BIOS. Another setting I find useful is a reboot delay in case a kernel panic happens: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="panic=15" This gives me enough time to snap a picture of the screen output to attach to the bug report that will follow.

2 November 2020

Joerg Jaspert: Debian NEW Queue, Rust packaging

Debian NEW Queue So for some reason I got myself motivated again to deal with some packages in Debians NEW Queue. We had 420 source packages waiting for some kind of processing when I started, now we are down to something around 10. (Silly, people keep uploading stuff ) That s not entirely my own work, others from the team have been active too, but for those few days I went through a lot of stuff waiting. And must say it still feels mostly like it did when I somehow stopped doing much in NEW. Except - well, I feel that maintainers are much better in preparing their packages, especially that dreaded task of getting the copyright file written seems to be one that is handled much better. Now, thats not supported by any real numbers, just a feeling, but a good one, I think.

Rust Dealing with NEW meant I got in contact with one part that currently generates some friction between the FTP Team and one group of package maintainers - the Rust team. Note: this is, of course, entirely written from my point of view. Though with the intention of presenting it as objective as possible. Also, I know what rust is, and have tried a Hello world in it, but that s about my deep knowledge of it

The problem Libraries in rust are bundled/shipped/whatever in something called crates, and you manage what your stuff needs and provides with a tool called cargo. A library (one per crate) can provide multiple features, say a TLS lib can link against gnutls or openssl or some other random implementation. Such features may even be combinable in various different ways, so one can have a high number of possible feature combinations for one crate. There is a tool called debcargo which helps creating a Debian package out of a crate. And that tool generates so-called feature-packages, one per feature / combination thereof. Those feature packages are empty packages, only containing a symlink for their /usr/share/doc/ directory, so their size is smaller than the metadata they will produce. Inside the archive and the files generated by it, stuff that every user everywhere has to download and their apt has to process. Additionally, any change of those feature sets means one round through NEW, which is also not ideal. So, naturally, the FTP Team dislikes those empty feature packages. Really, a lot. There appears to be a different way. Not having the feature packages, but putting all the combinations into a Provides header. That sometimes works, but has two problems:
  • It can generate really long Provides: lines. I mean, REALLY REALLY REALLY long. Somewhat around 250kb is the current record. Thats long enough that a tool (not dak itself) broke on it. Sure, that tool needs to be fixed, but still, that s not nice. Currently preferred from us, though.
  • Some of the features may need different dependencies (say, gnutls vs openssl), should those conflict with each other, you can not combine them into one package.

Solutions Currently we do not have a good one. The rust maintainers and the ftp team are talking, exploring various ideas, we will see what will come out.

Devel archive / Component One of the possible solutions for the feature package problem would be something that another set of packages could also make good use of, I think. The introduction of a new archive or component, meant only for packages that are needed to build something, but where users are discouraged from ever using them. What? Well, take golang as an example. While we have a load of golang-something packages in Debian, and they are used for building applications written in go - none of those golang-something are meant to be installed by users. If you use the language and develop in it, the go get way is the one you are expected to use. So having an archive (or maybe component like main or contrib) that, by default, won t be activated for users, but only for things like buildds or archive rebuilds, will make one problem (hated metadata bloat) be evaluated wildly different. It may also allow a more relaxed processing of binary-NEW (easier additions of new feature packages).

But but but Yes, it is not the most perfect solution. Without taking much energy to think about, it requires
  • an adjustment in how main is handled. Right now we have the golden rule that main is self contained, that is, things in it may not need anything outside it for building or running. That would need to be adjusted for building. (Go as well as currently rust are always building static binaries, so no library dependencies there).
  • It would need handling for the release, that is, the release team would need to deal with that archive/component too. We haven t, yet, talked to them (still, slowly, discussing inside FTP Team). So, no idea how many rusty knives they want to sink into our nice bodies for that idea

Final Well, it is still very much open. Had an IRC meeting with the rust people, will have another end of November, it will slowly go forward. And maybe someone comes up with an entire new idea that we all love. Don t know, time will tell.

Dirk Eddelbuettel: RcppSimdJson 0.1.2: New Upstream, New Utilities

A new RcppSimdJson release arrived on CRAN late yesterday bringing along the one recently updated simdjson release 0.6.0. RcppSimdJson wraps the fantastic and genuinely impressive simdjson library by Daniel Lemire and collaborators. Via very clever algorithmic engineering to obtain largely branch-free code, coupled with modern C++ and newer compiler instructions, it results in parsing gigabytes of JSON parsed per second which is quite mindboggling. The best-case performance is faster than CPU speed as use of parallel SIMD instructions and careful branch avoidance can lead to less than one cpu cycle per byte parsed; see the video of the talk by Daniel Lemire at QCon (also voted best talk). Other than the upstream update, Brendan added some new utilities to check for valid utf-8 or json format, and to minify json plus a small workaround for a clang-9 bug we encountered. We can confirm Daniel s statement on ridiculously fast utf-8 validattion. It is so cool to work with amazing tools. The NEWS entry follows.

Changes in version 0.1.3 (2020-11-01)
  • Added URLs to DESCRIPTION (Dirk closing #50).
  • Upgraded to simdjson 0.6.0 (Dirk in #52).
  • New policy option to always convert integers to int64_t (Brendan in #55 closing #54).
  • Added workaround for odd clang-9 bug (Brendan in #57).
  • New utility functions is_valid_utf8(), is_valid_json() and fminify() (Brendan in #58).

Courtesy of my CRANberries, there is also a diffstat report for this release. For questions, suggestions, or issues please use the issue tracker at the GitHub repo. If you like this or other open-source work I do, you can now sponsor me at GitHub. For the first year, GitHub will match your contributions.

This post by Dirk Eddelbuettel originated on his Thinking inside the box blog. Please report excessive re-aggregation in third-party for-profit settings.

1 November 2020

Utkarsh Gupta: FOSS Activites in October 2020

Here s my (thirteenth) monthly update about the activities I ve done in the F/L/OSS world.

Debian
This was my 22nd month of contributing to Debian. I became a DM in late March last year and a DD last Christmas! \o/ Whilst busy with my undergrad, I could still take some time out for contributing to Debian (I always do!). Here are the following things I did in Debian this month:

Uploads and bug fixes:

Other $things:
  • Attended the Debian Ruby team meeting. Logs here.
  • Mentoring for newcomers.
  • FTP Trainee reviewing.
  • Moderation of -project mailing list.
  • Sponsored phpmyadmin, php-bacon-baconqrcode, twig, php-dasprid-enum, sql-parser, and mariadb-mysql-kbs for William.

Debian (E)LTS
Debian Long Term Support (LTS) is a project to extend the lifetime of all Debian stable releases to (at least) 5 years. Debian LTS is not handled by the Debian security team, but by a separate group of volunteers and companies interested in making it a success. And Debian Extended LTS (ELTS) is its sister project, extending support to the Jessie release (+2 years after LTS support). This was my thirteenth month as a Debian LTS and fourth month as a Debian ELTS paid contributor.
I was assigned 20.75 hours for LTS and 30.00 hours for ELTS and worked on the following things:
(for ELTS, I worked for 5.25 hours extra, so my total hours this month for ELTS were 35.25!)

LTS CVE Fixes and Announcements:
  • Issued DLA 2389-1, fixing CVE-2019-18978, for ruby-rack-cors.
    For Debian 9 Stretch, these problems have been fixed in version 0.4.0-1+deb9u2.
  • Issued DLA 2390-1, fixing CVE-2019-18848, for ruby-json-jwt.
    For Debian 9 Stretch, these problems have been fixed in version 1.6.2-1+deb9u2.
  • Issued DLA 2391-1, fixing CVE-2020-25613, for ruby2.3.
    For Debian 9 Stretch, these problems have been fixed in version 2.3.3-1+deb9u9.
  • Issued DLA 2392-1, fixing CVE-2020-25613, for jruby.
    For Debian 9 Stretch, these problems have been fixed in version 1.7.26-1+deb9u3.
  • Uploaded ruby2.5 to buster, fixing CVE-2020-25613. For Debian 10 Buster, these problems have been fixed in version 2.5.5-3+deb10u3.
  • Uploaded ruby2.7 to unstable, fixing CVE-2020-25613. For Debian Sid, these problems have been fixed in version 2.7.1-4.
  • Uploaded rails to unstable, fixing CVE-2020-8264. For Debian Sid, these problems have been fixed in version 2:6.0.3.4+dfsg-1.

ELTS CVE Fixes and Announcements:

Other (E)LTS Work:
  • Front-desk duty from 28-09 to 04-10 and from 26-10 until 01-10 for both LTS and ELTS.
  • Triaged libproxy, libvirt, libonig, ant, erlang, ruby2.3, jruby, dpdk, php7.0, spice, spice-gtk, wireshark, djangorestframework, python-urllib3, python-cryptography, qtsvg-opensource-src, and open-build-service.
  • Marked CVE-2020-26137/python-urllib3 as no-dsa for Stretch and Jessie.
  • Marked CVE-2020-1437 4,5,6,7,8 /dpdk as no-dsa for Stretch.
  • Marked CVE-2020-2586 2,3 /wireshark as postponed for Stretch.
  • Marked CVE-2020-25626/djangorestframework as no-dsa for Stretch.
  • Marked CVE-2020-11979/ant as not-affected for Jessie.
  • Marked CVE-2020-25623/erlang as not-affected for Jessie.
  • Marked CVE-2020-25659/python-cryptography as no-dsa for Stretch and Jessie.
  • Auto EOL ed jruby, libjs-handlebars, linux, pluxml, mupdf, and djangorestframework for Jessie.
  • [E/LTS] Worked on putting survey online, deployed LTS Team Pages \o/
  • [ELTS] Fix suite-name in ela-needed file and fix other tags and ordering of triages to fix errors in the security tracker.
  • [LTS] Sent out invitations for the meeting.
  • Attended the sixth private LTS meeting.
  • General discussion on LTS private and public mailing list.

Until next time.
:wq for today.

30 October 2020

Kees Cook: combining apt install and get dist-upgrade ?

I frequently see a pattern in image build/refresh scripts where a set of packages is installed, and then all packages are updated:
apt update
apt install -y pkg1 pkg2 pkg2
apt dist-upgrade -y
While it s not much, this results in redundant work. For example reading/writing package database, potentially running triggers (man-page refresh, ldconfig, etc). The internal package dependency resolution stuff isn t actually different: install will also do upgrades of needed packages, etc. Combining them should be entirely possible, but I haven t found a clean way to do this yet. The best I ve got so far is:
apt update
apt-cache dumpavail   dpkg --merge-avail -
(for i in pkg1 pkg2 pkg3; do echo "$i install")   dpkg --set-selections
apt-get dselect-upgrade
This gets me the effect of running install and upgrade at the same time, but not dist-upgrade (which has slightly different resolution logic that d I d prefer to use). Also, it includes the overhead of what should be an unnecessary update of dpkg s database. Anyone know a better way to do this? Update: Julian Andres Klode pointed out that dist-upgrade actually takes package arguments too just like install. *face palm* I didn t even try it I believed the man-page and the -h output. It works perfectly!

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29 October 2020

Ulrike Uhlig: Better handling emergencies

We all know these situations when we receive an email asking Can you check the design of X, I need a reply by tonight. Or an instant message: My website went down, can you check? Another email: I canceled a plan at the hosting company, can you restore my website as fast as possible? A phone call: The TLS certificate didn t get updated, and now we can t access service Y. Yet another email: Our super important medical advice website is suddenly being censored in country Z, can you help? Everyone knows those messages that have URGENT in capital letters in the email subject. It might be that some of them really are urgent. Others are the written signs of someone having a hard time properly planning their own work and passing their delays on to someone who comes later in the creation or production chain. And others again come from people who are overworked and try to delegate some of their tasks to a friendly soul who is likely to help.

How emergencies create more emergencies In the past, my first reflex when I received an urgent request was to start rushing into solutions. This happened partly out of empathy, partly because I like to be challenged into solving problems, and I m fairly good at that. This has proven to be unsustainable, and here is why.

Emergencies create unplanned work The first issue is that emergencies create a lot of unplanned work. Which in turn means not getting other, scheduled, things done. This can create a backlog, end up in working late, or working on weekends.

Emergencies can create a permanent state of exception Unplanned work can also create a lot of frustration, out of the feeling of not getting the things done that one planned to do. We might even get a feeling of being nonautonomous (in German I would say fremdbestimmt, which roughly translates to being directed by others ). On the long term, this can generate unsustainable situations: higher work loads, and burnout. When working in a team of several people, A might have to take over the work of B because B has not enough capacities. Then A gets overloaded in turn, and C and D have to take over A s work. Suddenly the team is stuck in a permanent state of exception. This state of exception will produce more backlog. The team might start to deprioritize social issues over getting technical things done. They might not be able to recruit new people anymore because they have no capacity left to onboard newcomers.

One emergency can result in a variety of emergencies for many people The second issue produced by urgent requests is that if I cannot solve the initial emergency by myself, I might try to involve colleagues, other people who are skilled in the area, or people who work in another relevant organization to help with this. Suddenly, the initial emergency has become my emergency as well as the emergency of a whole bunch of other people.

A sidenote about working with friends This might be less of an issue in a classical work setup than in a situation in which a bunch of freelancers work together, or in setups in which work and friendships are intertwined. This is a problem, because the boundaries between friend and worker role, and the expectations that go along with these roles, can get easily confused. If a colleague asks me to help with task X, I might say no; if a friend asks, I might be less likely to say no.

What I learnt about handling emergencies I came up with some guidelines that help me to better handle emergencies.

Plan for unplanned work It doesn t matter and it doesn t help to distinguish if urgent requests are legitimate or if they come from people who have not done their homework on time. What matters is to make one s weekly todo list sustainable. After reading Making work visible by Domenica de Grandis, I understood the need to add free slots for unplanned work into one s weekly schedule. Slots for unplanned work can take up to 25% of the total work time!

Take time to make plans Now that there are some free slots to handle emergencies, one can take some time to think when an urgent request comes in. A German saying proposes to wait and have some tea ( abwarten und Tee trinken ). I think this is actually really good advice, and works for any non-obvious problem. Sit down and let the situation sink in. Have a tea, take a shower, go for a walk. It s never that urgent. Really, never. If possible, one can talk about the issue with another person, rubberduck style. Then one can make a plan on how to address the emergency properly, it could be that the solution is easier than at first thought.

Affirming boundaries: Saying no Is the emergency that I m asked to solve really my problem? Or is someone trying to involve me because they know I m likely to help? Take a deep breath and think about it. No? It s not my job, not my role? I have no time for this right now? I don t want to do it? Maybe I m not even paid for it? A colleague is pushing my boundaries to get some task on their own todo list done? Then I might want to say no. I can t help with this. or I can help you in two weeks. I don t need to give a reason. No. is a sentence. And: Saying no doesn t make me an arse.

Affirming boundaries: Clearly defining one s role Clearly defining one s role is something that is often overlooked. In many discussions I have with friends it appears that this is a major cause of overwork and underpayment. Lots of people are skilled, intelligent, and curious, and easily get challenged into putting on their super hero dress. But they re certainly not the only person that can help even if an urgent request makes them think that at first. To clearly define our role, we need to make clear which part of the job is our work, and which part needs to be done by other people. We should stop trying to accomodate people and their requests to the detriment of our own sanity. You re a language interpreter and are being asked to mediate a bi-lingual conflict between the people you are interpreting for? It s not your job. You re the graphic designer for a poster, but the text you ve been given is not good enough? Send back a recommendation to change the text; don t do these changes yourself: it s not your job. But you can and want to do this yourself and it would make your client s life easier? Then ask them to get paid for the extra time, and make sure to renegotiate your deadline!

Affirming boundaries: Defining expectations Along with our role, we need to define expectations: in which timeframe am I willing to do the job? Under which contract, which agreement, which conditions? For which payment? People who work in a salary office job generally do have a work contract in which their role and the expectations that come with this role are clearly defined. Nevertheless, I hear from friends that their superiors regularly try to make them do tasks that are not part of their role definition. So, here too, role and expectations sometimes need to be renegotiated, and the boundaries of these roles need to be clearly affirmed.

Random conclusive thoughts If you ve read until here, you might have experienced similar things. Or, on the contrary, maybe you re already good at communicating your boundaries and people around you have learnt to respect them? Congratulations. In any case, for improving one s own approach to such requests, it can be useful to find out which inner dynamics are at play when we interact with other people. Additionally, it can be useful to understand the differences between Asker and Guesser culture:
when an Asker meets a Guesser, unpleasantness results. An Asker won t think it s rude to request two weeks in your spare room, but a Guess culture person will hear it as presumptuous and resent the agony involved in saying no. Your boss, asking for a project to be finished early, may be an overdemanding boor or just an Asker, who s assuming you might decline. If you re a Guesser, you ll hear it as an expectation.
Askers should also be aware that there might be Guessers in their team. It can help to define clear guidelines about making requests (when do I expect an answer, under which budget/contract/responsibility does the request fall, what other task can be put aside to handle the urgent task?) Last, but not least, Making work visible has a lot of other proposals on how to visibilize and then deal with unplanned work.

27 October 2020

Noah Meyerhans: Debian STS: Short Term Support

In another of my frequent late-night bouts with insomnia, I started thinking about the intersection of a number of different issues facing Debian today, both from a user point of view and a developer point of view. Debian has a reputation for shipping stale software. Versions in the stable branch are often significantly behind the latest development upstream. Debian s policy here has been that this is fine, our goal is to ship something stable, not something bleeding edge. Unofficially, our response to users is: If you need bleeding edge software, Debian may not be for you. Officially, we have no response to users who want fresher software. Debian also has a problem with a lack of manpower. I believe that part of why we have a hard time attracting contributors is our reputation for stale software. It might be worth it for us to consider changes to our approach to releases.

What about running testing? People who want newer software often look to Debian s testing branch as a possible solution. It s tempting, as it s a dynamically generated release based on unstable, so it should be quite current. In practice, it s not at all uncommon to find people running testing, and in fact I m running it right now on the ThinkPad on which this is being typed. However, testing comes with a glaring issue: a lack of timely security support. Security updates must still propagate through unstable, and this can take some time. They can be held up by dependencies, library transitions, or other factors. Nearly every list of best practices for computer security lists keeping software up-to-date at or near the top of most important steps to take to safely use networked computer. Debian s testing branch makes this very difficult, especially when faced with a zero-day with potential for real-world exploit.

What about stable-backports? Stable backports is both better and worse than testing. It s better in that it allows you to run a system comprised mainly of packages from the stable branch, which receive updates from the security team in a timely manner. However, it s worse in that the packages from the backports repository incur an additional delay. The expectation around backports is that a package migrates naturally from unstable to testing, and then requires a maintainer to upload a new package based on the version in testing specifically targeted at stable backports. The migration can potentially be bypassed, and we used to have a mechanism for announcing the availability of security updates for the stable backports archive, but it has gone unused for several years now. The documentation describes a workflow for posting security updates that involves creating a ticket in Debian s RT system, which is going to be quite foreign to most people. News from mid 2019 suggests that this process might change, but nothing appears to have come of this in over a year, and we still haven t seen a proper security advisory for stable backports in years.

Looking to LTS for ideas The Long-Term Support project is an alternative branch of Debian, maintained outside the normal stable release infrastructure. It s stable, and expected to behave that way, but it s not supported by the stable security team or release team. LTS provides a framework for providing security updates via targeted uploads by a team of interested individuals working outside the structure of the existing stable releases. This project seems to be quite active (how much of this is because at least some members are being paid?), and as of this writing has actually published more security advisories in the past month than the stable security team has published for the current stable branch. This is also interesting in that the software in LTS is quite old, first appearing in a Debian stable release in 2017. LTS is particularly interesting here as it s an example an initiative within the Debian community taken specifically to address user needs. For some of our users, remaining on an old release is a perfectly valid thing for them to do, and we recognize this and support them in doing so.

Debian Short-Term Support So, what would it take to create an LTS-like initiative in the other direction? Instead of providing ongoing support for ancient versions of software that previously comprised a stable release, could we build a distribution branch based on something that hasn t yet reached stable? What would that look like? How would it fit in the existing unstable testing migration process? What impact would it have on the size of the archive? Would we want a rolling release, or discrete releases? If the latter, how many would we want between proper stable releases? The security tracker already tracks outstanding issues in unstable and testing, and can even show issues that have been fixed in unstable but haven t yet propagated to testing. If we want a rolling release, maybe we could just open up the testing-security repository more broadly? There was once a testing security team, which IIRC was chartered to publish updated packages directly to testing security, along with associated security advisory. Based on the mailing list history, that effort seems to have shut down around the time of the squeeze (Debian 6.0) release in early 2011. Would it be worth resurrecting it? We ve probably got much of the infrastructure required in place already, since it previously existed. Personally I m not really a fan of a pure rolling release. I d rather see a light-weight release. Maybe a snapshot of testing that gets just a date, not a Toy Story codename. Probably skip building a dedicated installer for it. Upgrade from stable or use a d-i snapshot from testing if needed. This mini release is supported until the next one comes out, maybe 6 or 8 months later. By supported, I mean that the Short Term Release team is responsible for it. They can upload security or other critical bug fixes directly to a dedicated repository. When the next STS snapshot is released, packages in the updates repository are either archived, if they re a lower version than the one in the new mini release, or rebuilt against the new mini release and preserved. Using some of the same mechanisms as the LTS release, we d need
  1. Something to take the place of oldstable, that is the base release against which updates are released. This could be something that effectively maps to a date snapshot served by http://snapshot.debian.org/. (Snapshot itself could not currently handle the increased load, as I understand it, but conceptually it s similar.)
  2. Something to take the place of the dist/updates apt repository that hosts the packages that are updated.
In theory, if the infrastructure could support hose things, then we could in effect generate a mini release at any time based on a snapshot. I wonder if this could start as something totally unofficial; mirror an arbitrary testing snapshot and provide a place for interested people to publish package updates.

Not a proposal, nor a criticism To be clear, I don t really intend this as a proposal; It s really half-baked. Maybe these ideas have already been considered and dismissed. I don t know if people would be interested in working on such a project, and I m not nearly familiar enough with the Debian archive tooling to even make a guess as to how hard it would be to implement much of it. I m just posting some ideas that I came up with while pondering something that, from my perspective, is an area where Debian is clearly failing to meet the needs of some of our users. We know Debian is a popular and respected Linux distribution, and we know people value our stability. However, we also know that people like running Fedora and Ubuntu s non-LTS releases. People like Arch Linux. Not just end-users , but also the people developing the software shipped by the distros themselves. There are a lot of potential contributors to Debian who are kept away by our unwillingness to provide a distro offering both fresh software and security support. I think that we could attract more people to the Debian community if we could provide a solution for these people, and that would ultimately be good for everybody. Also, please don t interpret this as being critical of the release team, the stable security team, or any other team or individual in Debian. I m sharing this because I think there are opportunities for Debian to improve how we serve our users, not because I think anybody is doing anything wrong. With all that said, though, let me know if you find the ideas interesting. If you think they re crazy, you can tell me that, too. I ll probably agree with you.

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