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Wouter Verhelst: Mechlin to Banja Luka in statistics

I decided to go to DebConf11 by car. Not willing to do this alone, I asked for volunteers to join me in my car trip. One such volunteer showed up, and the car trip happened. Now, since I remembered to push the correct buttons on my dashboard after I completely fueled up the car and checked the tire tension and other things, I am now proud to be able to present you with the following statistics on this trip:

Total distance travelled: 1466.8 km
Average driving speed: 95.9 km/h [0]
Total number of kilometers wasted on 'oh, crap, we forgot something': 10 (approx) [1][2]
Total amount of fuel used: 81.3l
Average fuel consumption rate: 5.5l/100km [3]
Total amount of kilometers spent behind the wheel by Jeremy: 50 (approx)
Total amount of kilometers spent behind the wheel by Wouter: the rest.[4]
Time of departure: 2011-07-16 21:00
Time of departure after point three and making sure we had everything: 2011-07-16 22:00
Time of arrival: 2011-07-17 15:15 (approx) [5]
Outside temperature at departure: 12 celcius
Outside temperature at arrival: 35 celcius
Longest (voluntary) break: 1 hour (approx; breakfast, tanking, bathroom visit, watching the sun rise)
Longest (involuntary) break: 45 minutes (approx; customs check) [6]
Last fueling stop: 4 AM.
Amount of kilometers left to go before the car said bleep, you need to tank soon: less than one.
Most tense moment: on crossing the slovenia->croatia border, confusing the border police officer ("no, I'm Wouter, that is Jeremy" yes, we both had photo-ID), who then promptly holds on to our documents, asks the car's papers, and tells us to please park over there and wait a moment while he gets us to be handled by guy in a somewhat more military-looking uniform.[7]
Biggest "uh-oh" moment: after crossing the croatia->bosnia and herzegovina border, watching the very, very, very, very, very[8] long line of trucks queueing to cross the border. In the other direction. And then realizing that you probably need to go through that very same queue on the way back
Largest single toll fee: 15 [9]
Last bit of time spent asleep before this trip: the minutes surrounding 2011-07-16 05:00:00 [10]
Time wasted writing this blog post when I really should've gone to bed instead: 45 minutes
Time now: 21:02:54

But it was fun. And that's all that matters. Those who've shown up at debconf already, or who will arrive soon: see you tomorrow. Those who will arrive later: see you soon. And those who won't arrive: better luck next time, I hope. [0] this includes times when the car isn't moving with the engine running, but not times when the car is turned off, locked, alone and forgotten, in the rain, while those idiots who were supposed to be its drivers were inside having a drink.
[1] Which is surprisingly little. Usually I manage to need more.
[2] Jeremy forgot his^Wa Debian banner. I forgot something, I can't recall what. I decided to bring some CD's to enjoy during the trip, and a 3.5mm audio connection cable which we end up not using
[3] According to the dash. I'm too tired right now to check it. Also see the next two points. [4] This could incorrectly be interpreted as a criticism on Jeremy. It's not his fault that I only told him a day before we left that I have a manual transmission. And in fact, if anything, I'm unhappy with the fact that I even had to hand him the wheel for those 50 km. I would've loved to be able to say "I went all the way from Mechlin to Banja Luka, all by myself".
[5] I forgot to check the clock, to be honest.
[6] What, you think I have a chronometer?
[7] The last four points could really have been written as two. Figuring out which goes with which is left as an exercise to the reader.
[8] very, very, very
[9] 7-day Slovenian road tax vignet
[10] Once I wake up, I hardly ever manage to fall asleep again. Esecially if it's light outside.

Daniel Baumann: Debian Live Autobuilds

Right now I am sitting in the train to the airport for going to DebCamp/DebConf 11 in Banja Luka, Bosnia and Herzegovina. During DebCamp amongst other things I am going to work on finishing up the last bits on getting daily/weekly Debian Live autobuilds back for wheezy. This spring Jimmy Kaplowitz offered to help with the task of overseeing the debian-live autobuilder and to coordinate necessary bits with cdimage.debian.org. Having them on cdimage.d.o became recently possible as Steve McIntyre offered to make a VM available for us (live-build requires root privileges, and naturally, you would not want to let that run on the host system itself, that is why in the past it was not possible to build them on cdimage.d.o). The remaining issues are, and this is why the autobuilds are not yet back since spring, that live-build still needs two things: a couple of tweeks for wheezy, and the autobuild stuff need to be properly integrated into live-build itself. That will happen as an additional binary package live-build-cron with a bunch of debconf questions, so that everyone and his dog can setup a debian-live autobuild server on his own machine. The initial upload (which will not yet work, do not bother to try) was uploaded to experimental this week and cleared the new queue, now looking forward to get this all finished up and resulting in a live-build uploaded to unstable by the end of the week. In the second week, Jimmy arrives, I will be introducing him to live-build and the various little things to watch for and hopefully manage to persuade him to take over the autobuilds maintenance. Having all images that are based on packages solely from the stable/testing/unstable archives moved to cdimage.d.o is freeing up ressources on live.debian.net which did the job in the past since etch. Ben Armstrong volunteered to help with overseeing the live.d.n instance of live-build-cron that will build more then once per day images for si, with the only difference that they will not use live-* from the archive but the latest snapshots from our git snapshots repository. This will be a big help for the development as eventually we will be autotesting these images for various things. Last but not least, thanks to both Jimmy and Ben for all your kindness, patience and help with this during the last couple of months. We have interesting times ahead.

Thorsten Glaser: mksh R40b; joe 3.1jupp16 and 2.8jupp2 released

mksh R40b (nowadays with filled in user s caveats (for R40, too!) and packager s upgrade hints) has just been released. This is a should-have upgrade, fixing a number of admittedly some obscure bugs, changing things begun in R40, improving upon others. Thanks to the PLD Linux guys for spotting all these errors; thanks to them and phpnet.org both for adopting mksh so well. I have also fixed a bug in nroff(1) which will lead to an even nicer looking HTML manpage mksh(1) (after the next rebuild and upload of a MirBSD snapshot scheduled RSN). jupp 3.1.16 took on the task of merging Debian joe changes (aiming at an upload). I also split the jupprc file into three versions (2.8 generic/DOS, 3.1+jupp and 3.7/Unix) because of the differences in the baseline executables making rc files partially mutually incompatible (think Insert key), annoyingly warning (think syntax, hmsg), or less usable (joe s new menu system). jupp 2.8.2 is a companion to jupp 3.1.16 mostly because of the new help window character map Binaries for jupp should be updated RSN too. Considering Banja Luka is arriving quickly, the r in RSN should be taken with a few grains of salt. I ve also scheduled working on the pcc Debian package for the next future; updating lynx and maybe others like OpenSSH in MirBSD is also due; cvs(1) will receive more of my time, but before the next Upload I d like to fix LP#12230 once verified. Builds for Debian/m68k are also still running. I note I did in fact not manage to make a new base image, yet (but 2.6.39 kernels miss a patch, anyway, so waiting for 3.0 is ok). It s still using gcc-4.4 because nobody tests gcc-4.6 and gcj-4.6 FTBFS due to SIGSEGV, but that s ok in my books. rsyslog is broken but sysklogd works. The #ksh Freenode page finally got a well-deserved link to Planet Commandline. Throw more my way! Acronyms and translations, too. (Got Norwegian and Rumanian covered in the meantime. No idea whether any RTL languages will work in that beast. But I m young and need the money) Since I m writing a wlog entry anyway let me thank Gunnar for a nice summary on the current Free Culture discussion; my comments on Nina s site seem to be eaten, but let me support it fully, although, of course, I normally use a copycenter style licence, which is specifically written for general works of authorship under copyright law, not limited to software. I did in fact have that in mind. Maybe some people will like it (it s less than one Kibibyte long) either generally or just for their everyday random musings (they can then keep CC-BY-SA for the big works if they so desire). Wouter, grass background makes green headlines illegible. I ve never liked, and never installed manually, cups either. (Benny tells me that Apple s new version refuses to talk with a non-Apple cups, kinda defeating the whole idea I think.) Port 9100 is JetDirect (probably with an HP in front and some subset of trailing) and just nice. (Being able to talk ESC/P with your printer like print '\033K\x07\0\x3E\x81\x99\xA5\xA5\x81\x3E' >/dev/lpa too rocks though, IMHO. Yes, mine can, and I still can. /dev/lpa is BSD.)

Kai, thanks for your vimrc lines:

	:highlight TrailWhitespace ctermbg=red guibg=red
	:match TrailWhitespace /\s\+$\  \+\ze\t/

Automatic removal is harmful, though I just fell into the trap since jupprc contains needed whitespace at EOL but manual removal (bound to ^K] in jupp) rocks. And I like that your solution uses such strong a colour vim users are the single most represented offender group for actually leaving the redundant whitespace at EOL there, and it should hurt their eyes. (Sadly there is some vehement disagreement preventing them from inclusion in grml-etc-core but that s why I re-post them here.) Ah, and jupp can of course display whitespace visibly (although it uses / , replacing the arrow with if no UTF-8, not ), accessible with ^Ov. Steve, want to put up a checklist for sites? We can crowdsource the testing to maybe get some interesting results Some other people would get more comments if they were idling in IRC (Freenode) or allow comments on their blog, specifically without too high an entrance barrier OpenID is ok, but many other things, and ECMAscript, are not; but I can t really say that loud because our wlog is static HTML compiled from a flat plaintext data source so it doesn t allow such either. I often forget what I wanted to add if I can t get it out quickly enough (especially at work). Sowwy Me like the cat picture postings (Amayita, Tiago, Gracias!).

Guillaume Mazoyer: Travel to DebConf 11

My flights tickets are booked so I guess:

I m really happy to go to Banja Luka. This will be my first DebConf and not my last I hope. I ll be there to meet incredible people that make Debian what it is but I will also give a talk with Tom Marble and Sylvestre Ledru about my Google Summer of Code project at Debian. This talk should be the 2011-07-30 at 15:00:00.

Dominique Dumont: I m a Debian Developer now :-)

He he , after6 months of hard labor (just kidding, it wasn t difficult) I m now a brand new Debian Developer. I plan to continue the work I did before, mainly Perl module packaging, helping getting a recent rakudo in Debian, and improving configuration tools (as upstream author). I wish to thanks heartfully all the people that helped me before and during the new maintainer process:
gregoa, xoswald and the whole pkg-perl team. Too bad I can t go to Banja-Luka. All the best

Jordi Mallach: Not going to DebConf 11

3 months ago, I was positive I would be attending DebConf 11 in Banja Luka, but as the time to buy tickets and plan the trip came closer, I began to realise I don't have lots and lots of vacation, and I probably prefer spending them doing something that absolutely rocks my world. I've always enjoyed the Debian conferences when I've been lucky to be there, but last year's experience in the Pyrenees was nothing a DebConf can compare to, and I've decided to spend time seeking similar experiences this summer. With much regret, because I love meeting the wonderful people that make up Debian and DebConfs, I have to say that after all and once again, I won't make it.

Stefano Zacchiroli: debconf11 video hardware

And Now For Something Completely Different There are those weird coincidences that flock together and have the power of subverting initial expectations. Something like that has happened to me this week, when I've ended up spending a considerable amount of my IRILL work time (you know, something like 1000% of it) as a Debian Video Team volunteer. Mean as I am, I'm not going to explain the concatenation of coincidences. Suffices to say that most of the video hardware meant to be used at DebConf11 ended up being in my IRILL office. Of course all of it for about 200 kg and 2000 liters was in need of some inventory, packing, and shipment love. Together with Holger, Mehdi, and Etci we have tamed all of it. The following box miscellanea will therefore soon be on its way to Banja Luka:

DebConf11 video hardware

As an undesirable side effect, I had to join Bdale's knows more about ATA than he'd like to -club.
Holger opted not to join the club and I really can't blame him.

Joerg Jaspert: DebConf11 - Looks like we will be there

So it finally looks like I will be at DebConf11 too. Including my (then) wife (ohwow, feels weird to write this). At least we just booked the flight tickets. There is a small chance that we still won t make it, but for now it looks good. Lucky beings we seem to be - we found flights going directly to Banja Luka, no need to take train from somewhere like Zagreb or so. (Well, for some values of directly, we have one stop included). We will arrive on Friday the 22nd, afternoon and leave on Sunday the 31st, again afternoon. Since DC6 this is the shortest time I had attending DebConf (DC5 I only did DebConf, not Camp, DC10 I skipped entirely). Somehow feels weird. Update: Well, due to some <censored> we now do have to go via Zagreb and an annoying bus trip. Meh. Should make us arrive on Thursday late night, but still annyoing.

Gunnar Wolf: DebConf13 at home? Why not?

We are few weeks away from the start of DebConf11. Excitement runs high in Debian-land. The two most worthy weeks of the year, every year, loom close. Our Bosnian friends have done a great job of finding and defending an amazing proposal, and are now facing the hard work and permanent adrenaline levels of being in charge of the closest I have seen to a herd of (well-behaved but wild and untamable) cats. I have organized DebConf in my country. It was hellish, but at the same time, it's one of my most cherished experiences. And I'm sure the same will be said by the leaders of each successive bid It is one of the most rewarding experiences you can imagine. Next year, DebConf will be held in tropical Managua, Nicaragua. But, where will we meet in 2013? Well, that depends on you, my dear reader! Do you want to work your ass off for Debian and have utter fun? Do you want to show and share your country with this huge family of developers? Start thinking about pushing for a DebConf13 bid! Do you have to be at Banja Luka to propose your bid? No. You can proxy via somebody I'd suggest to do it via somebody who knows the location you are suggesting, but basically, choose a friend that you trust that trusts you. Of course, you can participate in the presentation session via IRC. Do you have to be a Debian Developer to propose a bid? No. For DebConf9, none of the C ceres guys was a DD; for DebConf10, some of the people most involved from the local New Yorkers were not DDs. For DC11, none of our dear and overworked hosts in Bosnia are DDs. And for DC12, the Nicaraguan crew is also made from people interested in getting closer to the Debian project, but not DDs. Do you have to decide now? No. This is just a call for a first presentation, but the decision regarding DC13 will be taken probably around March 2012. However, giving a nice presentation at DebConf helps a lot, gives you visibility, and will get the ball rolling. Is there a geographical bias? Slight. So far, and since the second DebConf, we have kept the tradition not to repeat continents on two successive DebConfs. This is not a hard condition, however! What do you need to start thinking about? Go visit our prospective location checklist at http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/LocationCheckList. You can also look at what other teams have historically presented. Finally, I just learnt about the existence of http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13 Register there, even if you are just in the early phases of finding data. We will be holding a DebConf13 bids presentation session, most probably (the schedule is close to being presented officially!) on 30-07-2011, at 17:00.

Michal Čihař: Not going to DebConf

Year ago, when DebConf 11 in Banja Luka has been announced, I was really happy for the location and was sure I'm going to visit it. I applied early, requested sponsorship, but then things got slightly more complicated and in the end I had to say no quite shortly before reconfirmation deadline. So I will not meet all the great people behind Debian this year and will wait for another chance (probably in two years, as Nicaragua sounds attractive, but when I would be so far away I'd like to spend at least month in the area and time and money is always problem in such case :-)).

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Bastian Venthur: Not coming to DebConf

Unfortunately Debian cannot sponsor my trip to Banja Luka this year and it s too expensive to pay it from my own budget. Thus I just cancelled my attendance for the conference. I m very sad, since my first DebConf last year in NY was a lot of fun and I was really looking forward to see you guys again this year. I wish you a lot of fun anyways. Have a productive and fun conference!

Martin Zobel-Helas: Bosnian Beer?

When traveling I usually try local brands of beer. This became some sort of hobby, and usually gives me a good possibility to get in contact with the locals. For DebConf11 so far I have been suggested to try Tuzlanski (Tuzla) and Nektar (Banja Luka). Any other suggestions what should be tried?

Miriam Ruiz: I won t be able to attend DebConf this year

I haven t blogged for a while, because I ve been doing so many things that I scarcely had time nor will for it. Among all those things, and during the weekends of the last few months, we have been teaching kids (8-12 y.o.) about computers, Free Software and technology. Those kids are great, very intelligent, very motivated, and very funny to be with. I miss them a bit after the program has ended. In any case, I ve been given the chance to teach some more kids during summer weekdays, and I m really looking forward to it. The downside of this is that I won t have any summer holidays and, thus, I finally won t be able to attend DebConf 11 in Banja Luka, which was something I was also looking forward too. But, even though that s something I d really love to do, one cannot be in two places at the time, so this year I finally won t be able to attend DebConf either. Have lots of fun! I ll miss you!

In case you want to know more about all of this (sorry, links are in Spanish):

La Servilleta de Paco Prieto [feb 26 2011]: J venes descubriendo talento: tecnolog a, ciencia, emprender y matem ticas
La Servilleta de Paco Prieto [jun 21 2011]: Estudiantes que quieren m s ca a !!!

Oh, and to show you what I m exchanging you for (nothing personal):

Photo of the official presentation, with the parents and the kids

Photo of the kids in my group of Campus TIC

Kids in Campus TIC working with their computers

Group photo of the kids in my group, in Campus TIC

Kids in Campus TIC working with Lego WeDo robots

I wouldn t like to end this post without thanking all the kids from both Campus TIC and Yo Programo for being so cool, and also to welcome the kids from Fantastic Park, in case any of them -or their parents- are reading. Oh, and all of you who attend DebConf this year, have a lot of fun!

Philipp Kern: I'm going to DebConf 11

I finally got around to book my (train) trip back from Zagreb. The hotline of Deutsche Bahn was interesting. The booking system crashed and I was called back. But in the end it worked and I can print it the next time I get near a vending machine.

I'm worried how I manage to get there from Banja Luka on my own. And the travel to Zagreb together with Joachim Breitner won't be as comfortable as it should be. But meh, I'm going to DebConf again! \o/

Andreas Metzler: pushing release goals

Thanks to the bad weather I have made some progress implementing release-goal in my/our packages:

I have NMUed the last packages preventing me from dropping la files from gnutls and gcrypt. (Luk seems to have taken care of many others.)
Both libtasn1-3 and libksba are multi-arch aware now.

On a sidenote, please keep testing gnutls 2.12.7 (in experimental) to prevent unwanted surprises when we upload to unstable.

Christian Perrier: So, what happened with Kikithon?

I mentioned this briefly yesterday, but now I'll try to summarize the story of a great surprise and a big moment for me. All this started when my wife Elizabeth and my son Jean-Baptiste wanted to do something special for my 50th birthday. So, it indeed all started months ago, probably early March or something (I don't yet have all the details). Jean-Baptiste described this well on the web site, so I won't go again into details, but basically, this was about getting birthday wishes from my "free software family" in, as you might guess, as many languages as possible. Elizabeth brought the original idea and JB helped her by setting up the website and collecting e-mail addresses of people I usually work with: he grabbed addresses from PO files on Debian website, plus some in his own set of GPG signatures and here we go. And then he started poking dozens of you folks in order to get your wishes for this birthday. Gradually, contributions accumulated on the website, with many challenges for them: be sure to get as many people as possible, poking and re-poking all those FLOSS people who keep forgetting things... It seems that poking people is something that's probably in the Perrier's genes! And they were doing all this without me noticing. As usually in Debian, releasing on time is a no-no. So, it quickly turned out that having everything ready by April 2nd wouldn't be possible. So, their new goal was offering this to me on Pentecost Sunday, which was yesterday. And...here comes the gift. Aha, this looks like a photo album. Could it be a "50 years of Christian" album? But, EH, why is that pic of me, with the red Debconf5 tee-shirt (that features a world map) and a "bubulle" sign, in front of the book? But, EH EH EH, what the .... are doing these word by H0lger, then Fil, then Joey doing on the following pages? And only then, OMG, I discover the real gift they prepared. 106, often bilingual, wishes from 110 people (some were couples!). 18 postcards (one made of wood). 45 languages. One postcard with wishes from nearly every distro representatives at LinuxTag 2011. Dozens of photos from my friends all around the world. All this in a wonderful album. I can't tell what I said. Anyway, JB was shooting a video, so...we'll see. OK, I didn't cry...but it wasn't that far and emotion was really really intense. Guys, ladies, gentlemen, friends....it took me a while to realize what you contributed to. It took me the entire afternoon to realize the investment put by Elizabeth and JB (and JB's sisters support) into this. Yes, as many of you wrote, I have an awesome family and they really know how to share their love. I also have an awesome virtual family all around the world. Your words are wholeheartedly appreciated and some were indeed much much much appreciated. Of course, I'll have the book in Banja Luka so that you can see the result. I know (because JB and Elizabeth told me) that many of you were really awaiting to see how it would be received (yes, that includes you, in Germany, who I visited in early May!!!). Again, thank you so much for this incredible gift. Thank you Holger Levsen, Phil Hands, Joey Hess, Lior Kaplan, Martin Michlmayr, Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta, Kenshi "best friend" Muto, Praveen Arimbrathodiyil, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel, Ana Carolina Comandulli (5 postcards!), Stefano Zacchiroli (1st contribution received by JB, of course), Gunnar Wolf, Enriiiiiico Zini, Clytie Siddall, Frans Pop (by way of Clytie), Tenzin Dendup, Otavio Salvador, Neil McGovern, Konstantinos Margaritis, Luk Claes, Jonas Smedegaard, Pema Geyleg, Meike "sp tzle queen" Reichle, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl, Torsten Werner, "nette BSD" folks, CentOS Ralph and Brian, Fedora people, SUSE's Jan, Ubuntu's Lucia Tamara, Skolelinux' Paul, Rapha l Hertzog, Lars Wirzenius, Andrew McMillan (revenge in September!), Yasa Giridhar Appaji Nag (now I know my name in Telugu), Amaya Rodrigo, St phane Glondu, Martin Krafft, Jon "maddog" Hall (and God save the queen), Eddy Petri or, Daniel Nylander, Aiet Kolkhi, Andreas "die Katze geht in die K che, wunderbar" Tille, Paul "lets bend the elbow" Wise, Jordi "half-marathon in Banja Luka" Mallach, Steve "as ever-young as I am" Langasek, Obey Arthur Liu, YAMANE Hideki, Jaldhar H. Vyas, Vikram Vincent, Margarita "Bronx cross-country queen" Manterola, Patty Langasek, Aigars Mahinovs (finding a pic *with* you on it is tricky!), Thepittak Karoonboonyanan, Javier "nobody expects the Spanish inquisition" Fern ndez-Sanguino, Varun Hiremath, Moray Allan, David Moreno Garza, Ralf "marathon-man" Treinen, Arief S Fitrianto, Penny Leach, Adam D. Barrat, Wolfgang Martin Borgert, Christine "the mentee overtakes the mentor" Spang, Arjuna Rao Chevala, Gerfried "my best contradictor" Fuchs, Stefano Canepa, Samuel Thibault, Eloy "first samba maintainer" Par s, Josip Rodin, Daniel Kahn Gillmor, Steve McIntyre, Guntupalli Karunakar, Jano Gulja , Karolina Kali , Ben Hutchings, Matej Kova i , Khoem Sokhem, Lisandro "I have the longest name in this list" Dami n Nicanor P rez-Meyer, Amanpreet Singh Alam, H ctor Or n, Hans Nordhaugn, Ivan Mas r, Dr. Tirumurti Vasudevan, John "yes, Kansas is as flat as you can imagine" Goerzen, Jean-Baptiste "Piwet" Perrier, Elizabeth "I love you" Perrier, Peter Eisentraut, Jesus "enemy by nature" Climent, Peter Palfrader, Vasudev Kamath, Miroslav "Chicky" Ku e, Mart n Ferrari, Ollivier Robert, Jure uhalev, Yunqiang Su, Jonathan McDowell, Sampada Nakhare, Nayan Nakhare, Dirk "rendez-vous for Chicago marathon" Eddelbuettel, Elian Myftiu, Tim Retout, Giuseppe Sacco, Changwoo Ryu, Pedro Ribeoro, Miguel "oh no, not him again" Figueiredo, Ana Guerrero, Aur lien Jarno, Kumar Appaiah, Arangel Angov, Faidon Liambotis, Mehdi Dogguy, Andrew Lee, Russ Allbery, Bj rn Steensrud, Mathieu Parent, Davide Viti, Steinar H. Gunderson, Kurt Gramlich, Vanja Cvelbar, Adam Conrad, Armi Be irovi , Nattie Mayer-Hutchings, Joerg "dis shuld be REJECTed" Jaspert and Luca Capello. Let's say it gain:

Danke
Thank you
(RTL or not?) / toda
Gracias
/ arigat
/ n ndi
Obrigado
Grazie
C m n
Kadin chey la
/ Efharisto
Dank je wel
Tak
D ngge
Merci
Kiitos
Tika hoki
/ dhanyavaadhamulu
Thank you and God save the Queen
Mul umesc
Tack
/ didi madloba
Gr cies
Dakujem
/ Aabhar
/ Dhanyavadagalu
Paldies
/ kop khun krap
Terima kasih
Hvala (hr)
/ Dhanyavad
/ Hvala (sr)
Hvala (sl)
/ Akun
/ Sukriya
Takk
/ Nandri
Maki biyen jianbakik
D kuji
/ Xiexie
/ Aabhari aahe
Faleminderit
/ Kam sah ham ni da
/ Blagodaram
/ Xiexie
Hvala (bs)

Christian Perrier: So, what happened with Kikithon?

I mentioned this briefly yesterday, but now I'll try to summarize the story of a great surprise and a big moment for me. All this started when my wife Elizabeth and my son Jean-Baptiste wanted to do something special for my 50th birthday. So, it indeed all started months ago, probably early March or something (I don't yet have all the details). Jean-Baptiste described this well on the web site, so I won't go again into details, but basically, this was about getting birthday wishes from my "free software family" in, as you might guess, as many languages as possible. Elizabeth brought the original idea and JB helped her by setting up the website and collecting e-mail addresses of people I usually work with: he grabbed addresses from PO files on Debian website, plus some in his own set of GPG signatures and here we go. And then he started poking dozens of you folks in order to get your wishes for this birthday. Gradually, contributions accumulated on the website, with many challenges for them: be sure to get as many people as possible, poking and re-poking all those FLOSS people who keep forgetting things... It seems that poking people is something that's probably in the Perrier's genes! And they were doing all this without me noticing. As usually in Debian, releasing on time is a no-no. So, it quickly turned out that having everything ready by April 2nd wouldn't be possible. So, their new goal was offering this to me on Pentecost Sunday, which was yesterday. And...here comes the gift. Aha, this looks like a photo album. Could it be a "50 years of Christian" album? But, EH, why is that pic of me, with the red Debconf5 tee-shirt (that features a world map) and a "bubulle" sign, in front of the book? But, EH EH EH, what the .... are doing these word by H0lger, then Fil, then Joey doing on the following pages? And only then, OMG, I discover the real gift they prepared. 106, often bilingual, wishes from 110 people (some were couples!). 18 postcards (one made of wood). 45 languages. One postcard with wishes from nearly every distro representatives at LinuxTag 2011. Dozens of photos from my friends all around the world. All this in a wonderful album. I can't tell what I said. Anyway, JB was shooting a video, so...we'll see. OK, I didn't cry...but it wasn't that far and emotion was really really intense. Guys, ladies, gentlemen, friends....it took me a while to realize what you contributed to. It took me the entire afternoon to realize the investment put by Elizabeth and JB (and JB's sisters support) into this. Yes, as many of you wrote, I have an awesome family and they really know how to share their love. I also have an awesome virtual family all around the world. Your words are wholeheartedly appreciated and some were indeed much much much appreciated. Of course, I'll have the book in Banja Luka so that you can see the result. I know (because JB and Elizabeth told me) that many of you were really awaiting to see how it would be received (yes, that includes you, in Germany, who I visited in early May!!!). Again, thank you so much for this incredible gift. Thank you Holger Levsen, Phil Hands, Joey Hess, Lior Kaplan, Martin Michlmayr, Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta, Kenshi "best friend" Muto, Praveen Arimbrathodiyil, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel, Ana Carolina Comandulli (5 postcards!), Stefano Zacchiroli (1st contribution received by JB, of course), Gunnar Wolf, Enriiiiiico Zini, Clytie Siddall, Frans Pop (by way of Clytie), Tenzin Dendup, Otavio Salvador, Neil McGovern, Konstantinos Margaritis, Luk Claes, Jonas Smedegaard, Pema Geyleg, Meike "sp tzle queen" Reichle, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl, Torsten Werner, "nette BSD" folks, CentOS Ralph and Brian, Fedora people, SUSE's Jan, Ubuntu's Lucia Tamara, Skolelinux' Paul, Rapha l Hertzog, Lars Wirzenius, Andrew McMillan (revenge in September!), Yasa Giridhar Appaji Nag (now I know my name in Telugu), Amaya Rodrigo, St phane Glondu, Martin Krafft, Jon "maddog" Hall (and God save the queen), Eddy Petri or, Daniel Nylander, Aiet Kolkhi, Andreas "die Katze geht in die K che, wunderbar" Tille, Paul "lets bend the elbow" Wise, Jordi "half-marathon in Banja Luka" Mallach, Steve "as ever-young as I am" Langasek, Obey Arthur Liu, YAMANE Hideki, Jaldhar H. Vyas, Vikram Vincent, Margarita "Bronx cross-country queen" Manterola, Patty Langasek, Aigars Mahinovs (finding a pic *with* you on it is tricky!), Thepittak Karoonboonyanan, Javier "nobody expects the Spanish inquisition" Fern ndez-Sanguino, Varun Hiremath, Moray Allan, David Moreno Garza, Ralf "marathon-man" Treinen, Arief S Fitrianto, Penny Leach, Adam D. Barrat, Wolfgang Martin Borgert, Christine "the mentee overtakes the mentor" Spang, Arjuna Rao Chevala, Gerfried "my best contradictor" Fuchs, Stefano Canepa, Samuel Thibault, Eloy "first samba maintainer" Par s, Josip Rodin, Daniel Kahn Gillmor, Steve McIntyre, Guntupalli Karunakar, Jano Gulja , Karolina Kali , Ben Hutchings, Matej Kova i , Khoem Sokhem, Lisandro "I have the longest name in this list" Dami n Nicanor P rez-Meyer, Amanpreet Singh Alam, H ctor Or n, Hans Nordhaugn, Ivan Mas r, Dr. Tirumurti Vasudevan, John "yes, Kansas is as flat as you can imagine" Goerzen, Jean-Baptiste "Piwet" Perrier, Elizabeth "I love you" Perrier, Peter Eisentraut, Jesus "enemy by nature" Climent, Peter Palfrader, Vasudev Kamath, Miroslav "Chicky" Ku e, Mart n Ferrari, Ollivier Robert, Jure uhalev, Yunqiang Su, Jonathan McDowell, Sampada Nakhare, Nayan Nakhare, Dirk "rendez-vous for Chicago marathon" Eddelbuettel, Elian Myftiu, Tim Retout, Giuseppe Sacco, Changwoo Ryu, Pedro Ribeoro, Miguel "oh no, not him again" Figueiredo, Ana Guerrero, Aur lien Jarno, Kumar Appaiah, Arangel Angov, Faidon Liambotis, Mehdi Dogguy, Andrew Lee, Russ Allbery, Bj rn Steensrud, Mathieu Parent, Davide Viti, Steinar H. Gunderson, Kurt Gramlich, Vanja Cvelbar, Adam Conrad, Armi Be irovi , Nattie Mayer-Hutchings, Joerg "dis shuld be REJECTed" Jaspert and Luca Capello. Let's say it gain:

Danke
Thank you
(RTL or not?) / toda
Gracias
/ arigat
/ n ndi
Obrigado
Grazie
C m n
Kadin chey la
/ Efharisto
Dank je wel
Tak
D ngge
Merci
Kiitos
Tika hoki
/ dhanyavaadhamulu
Thank you and God save the Queen
Mul umesc
Tack
/ didi madloba
Gr cies
Dakujem
/ Aabhar li> / Dhanyavadagalu
Paldies
/ kop khun krap
Terima kasih
Hvala (hr)
/ Dhanyavad
/ Hvala (sr)
Hvala (sl)
/ Akun
/ Sukriya
Takk
/ Nandri
Maki biyen jianbakik
D kuji
/ Xiexie
/ Aabhari aahe
Faleminderit
/ Kam sah ham ni da
/ Blagodaram
/ Xiexie
Hvala (bs)

Neil Williams: TDeb processing...

Just added a TDeb test build branch for multistrap to test out the changes in the next version of the emdebian-tdeb binary package - specifically:

Move em_installtdeb into the emdebian-grip-server package so that the emdebian-tdeb package can be slimmed down to only contain what will become useful for other maintainers to use in their debian/rules files and for translators when the time comes to implement DEP-4. CDBS rules / patches to follow... bug reports against dpkg and debhelper to follow ...

DEP-4 itself is being restarted and refreshed but with some problems on alioth currently, I'm going to (try and) keep the document up to date via SGML and people.debian.org.

The changes are now in Emdebian SVN and I'm starting testing with my own packages first. Multistrap for PO and po4a-build testing, dpkg-cross for debconf testing, some others for testing with build systems other than CDBS, then the discussions will restart on debian-devel and I'll upload the TDeb support scripts to unstable.

There are a variety of things which need to happen before these scripts become useful, including:

dpkg support for XC-Package-Type: tdeb
debhelper support for dh_gentdeb,
inevitable bug fixing in emdebian-tdeb

Why is the package called emdebian-tdeb? Simple - that's where the scripts have lived until now and the hope is that dpkg-gentdeb can migrate into dpkg-dev and dh_gentdeb into debhelper - eventually.

By all means play with the scripts and follow the example multistrap branch above to see what kind of changes might be needed in your own packages. I'll post again when I've worked out the changes needed in packages like dpkg-cross which only need TDebs for debconf support. (This is the easiest mode of TDeb usage but it's also the most useful during a release cycle - maintainers make a single change and then a nominated i18n boss-person - take a guess who - can update the all your debconf translations in one upload without a binary build - eventually possibly not even needing any bug reports, just a simple email advance warning.

What I've got to work on still is how the generation of an updated TDeb creates a new debian diff / debian.tar.gz to accompany the upload. For that I need XC-Package-Type: tdeb support in dpkg....

Sample output from the viewpoint of a translator updating a package already converted to support a TDeb:



neil@sylvester:tdeb-test$ dpkg-gentdeb -t

Set the changelog message to version 2.1.15+t0 first, closing any relevant bugs!

 dch -v 2.1.15+t0 

neil@sylvester:tdeb-test$ dch -v 2.1.15+t0 TDeb test

neil@sylvester:tdeb-test$ dpkg-gentdeb -t

Building TDeb update: 2.1.15+t0

 (192 entries)

Discard doc/pod/1/da/multistrap (65 of 177 strings; only 36.72% translated; need 50%).

Discard doc/pod/1/da/device-table.pl (5 of 19 strings; only 26.31% translated; need 50%).

Processing untranslated files for pod/multistrap (1) . . .

Processing untranslated files for device-table.pl (1) . . .

Processing de translations for pod/multistrap (1). . .

Processing de translations for device-table.pl (1). . .

Processing fr translations for pod/multistrap (1). . .

Processing fr translations for device-table.pl (1). . .

Processing pt translations for pod/multistrap (1). . .

Processing pt translations for device-table.pl (1). . .

dpkg-gencontrol -pmultistrap-tdeb -Pdebian/multistrap-tdeb -cdebian/control

dpkg --build debian/multistrap-tdeb ../multistrap-tdeb_2.1.15+t0_all.tdeb 

dpkg-deb: building package  multistrap-tdeb' in  ../multistrap-tdeb_2.1.15+t0_all.tdeb'.

neil@sylvester:tdeb-test$ dpkg -c ../multistrap-tdeb_2.1.15+t0_all.tdeb

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/locale/

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/locale/pt/

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES/

-rw-r--r-- root/root      6427 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES/multistrap.mo

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/locale/vi/

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/locale/vi/LC_MESSAGES/

-rw-r--r-- root/root      6963 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/locale/vi/LC_MESSAGES/multistrap.mo

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/locale/fr/

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/

-rw-r--r-- root/root      6789 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/multistrap.mo

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/locale/da/

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/

-rw-r--r-- root/root     16311 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/multistrap.mo

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/man/

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/man/pt/

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/man/pt/man1/

-rw-r--r-- root/root     33963 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/man/pt/man1/multistrap.1

-rw-r--r-- root/root      4471 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/man/pt/man1/device-table.pl.1

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/man/vi/

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/man/fr/

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/man/fr/man1/

-rw-r--r-- root/root     33969 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/man/fr/man1/multistrap.1

-rw-r--r-- root/root      4708 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/man/fr/man1/device-table.pl.1

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/man/da/

drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2011-06-08 21:06 ./usr/share/man/da/man1/

I'm also going to DebConf11

On the RoadTrip! all the way hrough France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina (Banja Luka) in an MX5.

I've got a lot of things to talk to people about @ DebConf this year... you won't be able to tell if I'm just buying you a beer or trying to badger you about your packages!! Just note that TDebs have been already agreed (in terms of how TDebs work in the archive) with ftp-master at a previous meeting in Extremadura and I'm being badgered by a Release Manager and an ex-DPL to get TDebs implemented real soon now, so it is going to happen and hopefully in time for Wheezy - it's just a matter of fixing the bugs. The quicker everyone has a look at the new scripts (which have been completed re-written and immensely simplified since I first tried a dumb conversion of em_installtdeb) and the likely changes needed in packages, the quicker I can get the bugs out of the scripts.

More documentation to follow, I'll be updating the SGML whenever practical and the actual DEP just as soon as I get commit access back.

Gregor Herrmann: INN-BNX

I finally booked my flights to ~~Banja Luka~~Zagreb:

Sun 17 Jul 08:10 Innsbruck 09:20 Vienna    OS916
Sun 17 Jul 12:55 Vienna    13:45 Zagreb    OS683
Sun 31 Jul 15:10 Zagreb    16:05 Vienna    OS684
Sun 31 Jul 17:15 Vienna    18:15 Innsbruck OS901

See you at DebConf11!

Ben Hutchings: I am going to DebConf11

I have a talk to give, hacking to do, and I should be helping with video as well. Hope to see you in Banja Luka!