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13 July 2011

Clint Adams: Savannah Doldrums

About a month ago, I submitted a project request to Savannah. It made sense at the time to host it there for a variety of reasons, but now I am still waiting for project approval. I am told that the reason my very exciting project is sitting there collecting moss is that there is a lack of reviewers. So if you want to help Savannah out, you should write to savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org.

Daniel Baumann: Debian Live 6.0.2 Images

Two days before the 6.0.2 squeeze point release a user reported that usb-hdd images are not bootable for him. We could not reproduce that for several days but thanks to David Endler, we found out a few days ago that the reason for this is the following commit: Setting partition flags after creating the filesystem, workaround for bug in parted where we result in having the partition type set to linux otherways. The original problem was that in some situation the code resulted in having a wrong partition type and that can let to confusion for some bioses. For other reasons, the applied workaround has the side effect to cause parted to not set the bootable flat at all anymore and by that creating an even bigger problem - most crappy bioses these days require the bootable flag to be set and refuse to boot from a device otherwise (Missing Operating System). Or in other words, the fix solved the original problem but created another one that is affecting much more bioses. Rather than doing a hasty and suboptimal build of 6.0.2 with the commit reverted (and wasting resources for a 6.0.2a build some time later), we have looked into fixing the original problem properly without causing side effects. Images for the 6.0.2 squeeze point release will therefore be published in the next couple of days.

Jordi Mallach: Not going to DebConf 11

3 months ago, I was positive I would be attending DebConf 11 in Banja Luka, but as the time to buy tickets and plan the trip came closer, I began to realise I don't have lots and lots of vacation, and I probably prefer spending them doing something that absolutely rocks my world. I've always enjoyed the Debian conferences when I've been lucky to be there, but last year's experience in the Pyrenees was nothing a DebConf can compare to, and I've decided to spend time seeking similar experiences this summer. With much regret, because I love meeting the wonderful people that make up Debian and DebConfs, I have to say that after all and once again, I won't make it.

Kai Wasserb ch: Vim: How to prevent trailing whitespaces

As the local geek I get all sorts of (Linux) questions asked, like "How can you delete the nth line with Sed?" or "Is there a way to search for the following in a file?" (the latter being a request to construct a regular expression for grep). And while I'm pretty sure, you can find answers for such questions quickly with $SEARCH_ENGINE I find myself generally typing the answer into the IM session. This, and just seeing Bernd's post about Vim on Planet Debian, prompted me to start a little, irregular series of posts, to which I can point people, whenever I get asked such questions. I start this off with a tip for Vim, a very powerful text editor. The problem is simple: you get (source code) files with trailing whitespaces (sometimes accumulated in "empty" lines). This makes diffing (and merging) difficult. Thus the question is: how do I prevent that from happening? How do I notice, that I have whitespaces at the end of a line? The solution consists of two lines in your .vimrc:
:highlight TrailWhitespace ctermbg=red guibg=red
:match TrailWhitespace /\s\+$\  \+\ze\t/
If you just want this functionality if syntax highlighting is also active, then you should use
:autocmd Syntax * syn match TrailWhitespace /\s\+$\  \+\ze\t/
instead of the :match line. The regular expression used in both cases matches trailing whitespaces and whitespaces in front of tabs. Of course there are several other options on how to do this or what you might want to highlight, but that would be beyond the scope of this little post.

Jaldhar Vyas: A Dance With Dragons (No Spoilers)

Somehow, even though I'd know about it for the longest time, I had never get around to reading George R.R. Martins A Song of Ice and Fire series until I heard about the Game of Thrones HBO series. Then I thought I had better hurry up and read the books as TV adaptations tend to be inferior. (I must say HBO did a pretty good job though.) I was instantly hooked and finished all four books in a week. Today the long-awaited fifth installment called A Dance with Dragons and I immediately got myself a copy. (Nowadays I mostly do my recreational reading with the Kindle app on my Android smartphone.) As before, I'm spellbound. I'm already about 25% through it and loving it. What I love about Martin is that he really gets how traditional, "pagan", "feudal" societies work. Take religion for instance. A lot of Sci-Fi/Fantasy authors if they deal with the subject at all usually give a cartoon version of polytheism that owes more to Christian canards and Dungeons & Dragons than any existing human religion. But in Westeros, one can be simultaneously devout, amoral, superstitious, and cynical in a way that makes a lot of sense to me as a Hindu. Or class. Being a peasant in Martins' world is horrible. Your life is completely at the mercy of Lords and Ladies and can end in an instant. But the upper class despite its wealth and power is trapped in its own way too. They must constantly protect their status from jealous competitors and a reversal of political or military fortune can destroy an ancient noble family just as suddenly as a bad harvest can destroy a family of farmers. Like the other books in the series, this one has a huge cast of characters whose stories weave in and out with each chapter told mainly from one characters viewpoint. This is a tactic which I for one found helpful to keep my attention from flagging but it means you can't really enjoy it unless you've read the previous volumes in order first. I definitely think it's worth the effort though.

Matthew Palmer: "Wireless Internet is the future" my arse

Here in Australia we re building out a giant, nationwide fiber network (with degraded service to the few parts of the country that aren t heavily populated like, nearly all of it), known as the National Broadband Network . Many critics of the planned network are saying that it s technology is outdated, and that the future of last-mile Internet access is wireless; that by the time the network is completed, we ll have no need for fibre optic cable to the home, and we ll all just use some magical wireless network for all our Internetting needs. Well, right at this moment, I m sitting in the middle of Australia s largest city, with full bars of coverage being reported by my phone, and getting ping times of over 3 minutes (you heard that right; my record so far is ping reporting time=194001 ms for a reply) and no ability to usefully access the Internet. If wireless is the future, I hope it s a long way away. To misquote a great man, I WANT MY ADSL BACK YOU SON OF A BITCH!

MJ Ray: SPI Annual General Meeting 2011

Software in the Public Interest (SPI) will hold its Annual General Meeting today: Wednesday, 13th July 2011 at 20:30 UTC (21:30 UK, 22:30 CET). SPI is the developer association that supports debian, OpenWrt and many other projects. SPI meetings are held on irc.spi-inc.org (the OFTC network). The agenda for the meeting is available at http://www.spi-inc.org/meetings/agendas/2011/2011-07-13/ There are currently no resolutions on the agenda, but there should be some annual reports.

12 July 2011

Gustavo Franco: Google+ and your data

Let's make it clear: Your data is yours and in Google+ official announcement there's the following "You and over a billion others trust Google, and we don t take this lightly. In fact we ve focused on the user for over a decade: liberating data, ...". John Goerzen is wrong.

I can understand people having problems to use a product during its field trial and demanding features. I won't sit and watch people spreading FUD in bold before asking though.

Last, but not least, the following link is easily visible in the Settings and is also listed in the Help pages:
https://plus.google.com/settings/exportdata


Tim Retout: The Prisoner

I have recently finished watching The Prisoner (1967). All the surrealism is messing with my head. In other news, I updated GNU Enscript. Oh, and I filed an ITP for the real Data::UUID, and promptly found a symlink attack which I suspect I failed to disclose responsibly. Hmm. I could write a lot more, but the short version is: I need a holiday.

John Goerzen: First Look at Google Plus

Seems like everybody s writing Google+ reviews these days, but most of the ones I ve found seem to be fluff pieces. I haven t used it long, but have some initial impressions to share. First, an analogy. Facebook reminds me of the sleazy guy selling stuff from his car down the street. They do things like change privacy defaults when they think it s good for Facebook, rather than good for you. Google+ reminds me of an Apple product. It s beautiful, easy to learn, but locks everything down and is lacking some critical features. So here goes with the details. The good I think that this can be best summed up by: it s not Facebook. Facebook has, perhaps, set an incredibly low bar but still, this holds. Facebook is the only website I can ever remember using that changes things so much, so often, and so completely that I keep having this feeling of not knowing how to do things. Try maintaining a Facebook page or two and you ll especially feel my pain then. But even the basics: how many times have I accidentally posted a partial comment because I pressed Enter to start a new paragraph (that has only been the button used for that for, hmm, let s see now, decades), and instead it posted the comment. Principle of least surprise, anyone? Google+ has a simple and, on the surface anyway, intuitive interface. However, it does get muddy; more on that below. I m going to spend a lot more space on the bad below, but don t let that diminish my excitement about having a viable alternative to Facebook. I am keen to get rid of that monster. The Bad I ll start of this section with the fact that Google+ is a tightly-controlled walled garden. There is no way to take a copy of your status updates, comments, etc. and back them up with your own devices. If your Google account goes away, so do all your updates about your kids first words. Facebook does have this feature these days. It has broken half the time, but it exists, works, and I use it. Twitter doesn t have the feature built in, but its API makes it pretty easy; you could easily use my twidge program to do this, for instance. But whatever you put in G+ stays in G+. There is no autoposting it to twitter or Facebook, no backups, nothing. I m disappointed in that, given Google s prior attitude about openness to individual data ownership. (Update 7/12/2011: There is a way to get a backup, which I hadn t noticed; see comments below.) Almost as bad, there s also no way to get data in. So I now have identi.ca, twitter, Facebook, and now also G+ accounts. When I post an item in identi.ca, it autoposts to twitter, and then it autoposts from twitter to Facebook. Handy one place to notify people of my public activities. My uploads to Flickr and blog posts also auto-post to Facebook, so people I m friends with there get a picture of what I m doing outside of Facebook without me manually having to link it in. Not so with G+. There is no way to even add an RSS feed for my blog to auto-post to G+ as there is with Facebook. If you use G+, the only way to get stuff into it is with a keyboard. Poor integration with other Google apps is also an issue. G+ is nowhere near Google s first social app. They also have Blogger, Google Reader, Buzz, Gmail, etc. So here s the rub. These aren t integrated well, and when they have tried to integrate them, they ve done an exceedingly poor job of it. As an example: Buzz is a twitter-like service for posting updates. Very similar to what G+ does, right? Well, the best you can do is link your Buzz account to a separate tab on your profile. You can t even have your Buzz updates flow straight into G+, from what I can see. You have a separate list of followers in Buzz from G+. Reader is even worse; it has a sharing feature, but it s not G+ aware, so it goes to a reader inbox. But what takes the cake is the integration with Gmail Contacts. Sounds easy? Not entirely. When you add someone to G+, apparently it sometimes links the record with their entry in Contacts. And the help gives you the handy warning that when you remove them from G+, you have the option of removing them from Contacts, which could impact what you see on a mobile device. It is unclear what happens when it doesn t link the record, or how it decides which record to link (some people have more than one person in a family sharing phone numbers and email addresses, for instance.) One very nice feature of G+ is you can add email addresses, even if they aren t G+ members. Then when you post updates to the circle you ve added them to, G+ offers to send them an email with an update. Very handy. Except the undocumented part is that if you select Your circles (meaning all your circles), rather than individually ticking the box by each circle, they don t get the email. And they also don t get it if you set it Public. You have to select their specific circle, which is a significant difference from how people with G+ accounts are treated. And that s just an example. There are a ton of things that work one way 95% of the time, but have non-obvious exceptions. Some of these exceptions are documented in the help, and some aren t. I m still confused about the integration with Picasa. G+ help says that you can upload unlimited numbers of photos for free (though they will be downscaled at a certain point). Picasa has definite storage limits. But G+ uploads are showing up in Picasa. Do I really get free storage by uploading to the same place via a different tool? Very odd. And finally, a gripe about web standards. I ve been using Firefox/Iceweasel 3.5, which came out in Debian squeeze and is still supported there. It is also pretty darn new by corporate IT standards. And Google Plus refuses to let me log in with it, saying it s incompatible. Perhaps it can t do some fancy animation, but then again I don t really care. Seems Google has forgotten the old RFC adage: be liberal in what you accept and conservative in what you generate. If you can detect that my browser won t animate something right, then you could give me a stripped-down version of the page rather than an error message.

Bernd Zeimetz: re-indenting files with vim

Sometimes projects with a long history of committers tend to collect various styles of indentation. Unfortunately not for all programming languages exist specialized tools like indent for C/C++, so we need to find a different way to mass-indent files properly. Using vim is one of them. First you need to create a file (let's call it /tmp/indent.vim) including all the vim commands you want to run on your code. The following piece is a good start:

gg=G
:x!
Now run vim on your source code files, using the created vim script file. The following example reindents all .php files in the current folder and subfolders

find . -name '*.php' -exec vim -s /tmp/indent.vim   \;
If you don't like the result it might be that the indentation settings in you .vimrc don't suit your needs. Of course you are able to add other fancy vim commands to modify your files - like adding or modifying copyright headers.

Christoph Berg: Kudos to dh_python2

Transitioning Python modules to dh_python2 is straightforward. I removed LOADS of magic from python-radix. I especially like the complexity reduction in debian/rules, but debian/control also got some fields removed.

Gunnar Wolf: Free Software must migrate to become Free Culture

Cineast and Free Culture activist Nina Paley wrote some days ago a rantifesto on why the FSF has a double standard: Why are the Freedoms guaranteed for Free Software not guaranteed for Free Culture?, by not following its own very strict rules on software when it comes to culture as a whole. Her post was widely circulated, and got (at least) one reply by fellow Debian Developer Wouter Verhelst, largely agreeing with her, and an anti-rantifesto by Joe Brockmeier Which was promptly answered again by Wouter with a very fun and inspired post, written from the right angle: From the viewpoint of a person who is both a programmer and a musician, and understands the concepts at hand. I'd love to write a longer, better thought post But I'm tired and frankly stressed by many things, so I am just echoing their very interesting discussion to other people who might want to read it. I have been thinking and writing bits on that subject over the last couple of months. An example of that was the talk I gave at the Senate ~6 weeks ago. Following that talk, I wrote a short article for Revista Z calo (a widely circulated magazine mainly dealing with Mexican politics and social issues) called simply Software libre, cultura libre (full text available, but in Spanish only You can try reading an automated translation if it suits you). I wrote the article, mind you, with very limited time, and I'll be the first to recognize the prose was quite poor this time :( Anyway My point is that our nature is to share culture, to build it in a collaborative fashion, and having the Internet as a practically zero-cost, zero loss medium with which we can interchange our creativity with other like-minded people will naturally boost creativity. Free Software emerged before other Free Culture groups just because programmers had privileged access to Internet in the 80s and early 90s; as network access and digital creation tools have got to more people, it's just natural for all kinds of free culture to grow. Software is just a form of knowledge. Code is just a notation for a certain kind of ideas, just as the mathematical or musical notations. I believe (and hope) it's just unavoidable for us all to eventually switch to a mainly free cultural creation system.

Jaldhar Vyas: Google^wBraincells Summer^wChaturmasa of Code

Barring a miracle, it looks like I won't be going to Debconf 11 this year which is a shame as that is a part of the world I have yet to visit. Anyway it got me thinking, I've neglected a lot of my Open Source activities this past year or so what with struggling to stay in good financial shape. As Chaturmasa started today in which we take up additional religious duties, I thought it might be a good time to recommit to getting all my projects up to speed again. So during the next four months I aim to (in no particular order) Hopefully by writing this down here in public, I will be able to shame myself into getting most if not all of this done.

Kees Cook: aliens hat-tip

Picked up a Doctor Who comic today and saw a nice hat-tip to (or composite ship design plagiarism of) Aliens. The Colonial Marines ship Sulaco , from Aliens, 1986:
aliens ship The Scavengers ship, from the Doctor Who Spam Filtered story, 2011:
drwho art Such a great ship. Not even remotely made to look aerodynamic. And to make this almost related to Ubuntu and Debian, here was my command line to remove exif data from the image I took with my phone: mogrify -strip spam-filtered.jpg

2011, Kees Cook. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 License.
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DebConf team: Behind the scenes with the DebConf team (Posted by Moray Allan)

This Thursday we ll be running a special IRC session, Behind the scenes with the DebConf team . Details: This is an open session aimed at anyone who would like to find out more about how DebConf is organised. Of course, we d love you to get involved in organising it yourself, by helping out at DebConf11 or helping plan future DebConfs, but it s also fine to attend the session just because you are curious!

11 July 2011

Michael Prokop: Creating 32bit Debian packages in 64bit environments

i386 systems are dying off and therefore building 32bit Debian packages in 64bit environments is important if you still need packages for i386. For some recent projects I had to set up 64bit-only environments with the need to provide 32bit packages for i386 as well as according i386 Linux kernel packages. 1) Common Debian packages Just prepend the linux32 command to the build commands and use the -a386 option of dpkg-buildpackage(1). So use linux32 dpkg-buildpackage -ai386 , linux32 git-buildpackage -ai386 , linux32 debuild -ai386 , or whatever build tool you prefer to work with. I personally like using git-buildpackage -S together with cowbuilder. When using cowbuilder it s easy to get i386 Debian packages:
# create initial cow base directory, needs to be executed just once:
cowbuilder --create --basepath /var/cache/pbuilder/wheezy32.cow \
   --architecture i386 --distribution wheezy --mirror http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian
# the "debbuildopts -b" says I want a binary-only build, see dpkg-buildpackage(1):
linux32 cowbuilder --build --basepath /var/cache/pbuilder/wheezy32.cow \
   ~/foobar_0.42.dsc --debbuildopts "-b"
2) Debian Kernel packages If you re building your own kernel images you might be aware of setting ARCH for the common make targets, like:
ARCH=i386 make oldconfig
To build a linux-image Debian package you can use upstream s deb-pkg target, like:
ARCH=i386 make deb-pkg
This should provide you according linux-headers, linux-firmware-image, linux-libc-dev and linux-image i386 Debian packages. But if you need the according source and doc packages as well you might prefer make-kpkg of kernel-package instead, using options like:
DEB_HOST_ARCH=i386 setarch i386 make-kpkg --revision "$KERNELVERSION" \
  --cross-compile - --arch=i386 --us --uc --initrd \
  --rootcmd fakeroot kernel-image kernel-headers kernel-doc kernel-source
3) Debian linux-2.6 kernel packages If you re interested in building Debian kernel images the same way as the Debian kernel team does (AKA linux-2.6) make sure to check out the kernel-handbook. After installing essential software packages I had to set up some symlinks for building:
apt-get install build-essential fakeroot devscripts fakeroot
apt-get build-dep linux-2.6
ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.4 /usr/bin/i486-linux-gnu-gcc-4.4
ln -s /usr/bin/ld /usr/bin/i486-linux-gnu-ld
ln -s /usr/bin/ar /usr/bin/i486-linux-gnu-ar
ln -s /usr/bin/objcopy /usr/bin/i486-linux-gnu-objcopy
ln -s /usr/bin/nm /usr/bin/i486-linux-gnu-nm
ln -s /usr/bin/objdump /usr/bin/i486-linux-gnu-objdump
ln -s /usr/bin/strip /usr/bin/i486-linux-gnu-strip
Then executing:
apt-get source linux-2.6
cd linux-2.6*
debuild -ai386 -us -uc
provided the according Debian packages (linux-doc, linux-headers, linux-image, linux-libc-dev, linux-manual, linux-patch-debian, linux-source, linux-support and linux-tools). 4) Out-of-tree kernel module packages If you want to build external modules which are available as $MODULENAME-source in Debian (e.g. tp-smapi-source) using module-assistant then use the DEB_HOST_ARCH environment variable, like:
DEB_HOST_ARCH=i386 m-a -v --text-mode -k /home/mika/linux-$KERNELVERSION -l $KERNELVERSION build tp-smapi
If the external module is not available for use with module-assistant then compile the module running:
make -C /lib/modules/$KERNELVERSION/build M=$(pwd)
whereas /lib/modules/$KERNELVERSION/build is pointing to the build directory of your 32bit kernel.

Thorsten Glaser: [Update] Hilfe gesucht: Mitarbeiter berwachung

Deutsche Version dieses Postings read the English Version instead Der Leiter der Abteilung Systemadministration einer Firma, welche in diesem Artikel ungenannt bleiben soll, wo der Zufall es will, da ich f r sie arbeite, m chte uns Mitarbeiter dazu zwingen, das Feature der persistenten Historie (also einen niedergeschriebenen Verlauf der abgesetzten Befehle) der Shell (Kommandozeile) auf allen Systemen zu benutzen. Nun hat die mksh dies vern nftigerweise, w hrend immer noch verf gbar, standardm ig aus Gr nden der Privatsph re deaktiviert, und ich finde, dies sollte sich nicht ndern. Es kann ja nicht sein, da man mir beim Arbeiten ber die Schulter guckt; was kommt als n chstes, Video berwachung der B ros? (Seine Argumentation l uft darauf hinaus, da er nachvollziehen/verstehen kann, wie ich (ha! ich! nicht die anderen, nein, ich!) ein Problem das letzte Mal gel st habe; es ist aber nichts anderes als rekonstru eren zu k nnen, wer wann was eingetippt/gemacht hat. Naja, Argumentationen sind eh relativ, andere jagen Flugzeuge in ihre eigenen Verteidigungsministerien, welche gerade zuf llig umgebaut werden ) Ich habe dies nat rlich in die F hrungsetage eskaliert, und unser Gesch ftsf hrer versteht meine Bedenken und m chte nun ein Gespr ch anraunen, um eine L sung zu finden. Die meisten meiner Kollegen im Bereich Systemadministration denken leider nichtmals dr ber nach, obschon ich in anderen Bereichen Gleichgesinnte gefunden habe. Einen Betriebsrat haben wir auch gro er Fehler, ich wei nicht (aber ich s e eh nicht drin, ich hasse Politik jeder Art). Dies l t mich in dringender Not, Argumente wider diese Total berwachung aller (insbesondere auf der Kommandozeile arbeitenden also besonders mich) Kollegen zu finden, idealerweise solche, die durch deutsches Recht gest tzt sind. Wenn ihr solche habt, bitte mailt die schnell an meine eMail-Adresse, welche da nicht junk@mirbsd.org lautet, sondern mit einem tg vor dem Klammeraffen (dies dient der Abwehr unerw nschter Werbemails). Vielen Dank bereits im Voraus! Update 12.07.2011: Wir haben geredet, und wie viele kommentierten keine L sung auf rechtlicher Ebene gefunden, sondern stattdessen, nachdem wir festgestellt hatten, da mir dieses Problem sehr am Herzen liegt, nach anderen L sungen f r das eigentliche Ziel des Chefadmins gesucht; dies z hlt als ein Entgegenkommen auf Seiten der Firma. Ich habe zugestimmt, meine L sungen in kleine Skripte zu verpacken und ins VCS zu committen f r das Herausfinden, wann was auf einem Server ge ndert wurde, im Fehlerfall, denken wir uns gerade ohnehin was aus. Danke an alle, die kommentiert haben!

Thorsten Glaser: [Update] Big Brother , or: Help wanted arguments against monitoring employees

English version of this posting lese stattdessen die deutsche Version The head system administrator of a henceforth unnamed company I happen to be employed at wants to force us to use the shell s persistent history feature disabled by default in mksh as is sensible, for privacy reasons on all systems, so he can retrace what we do (of course, his wording was more like, so he can reconstruct how I fixed a problem the last time it occurred yeah, sure). Now I ve escalated this to the boss, since this just cannot happen, what ll be next, video monitoring our offices or what and the boss said he sees my concerns and would like a meeting to get an agreement between all parties involved. Most sysadmin coworkers actually don t even think about this, they are sheeple, really; but my project manager (for when I m not a sysadmin but a programmer) and the leaderess of our QA department agree with me, luckily. Now I m in dire need of arguments, especially German-Legalese, to fight this total surveillance of employees, mostly targetted at these who use the command line almost exclusively, which I m a prime example of. Please mail me at my address, which is not junk@mirbsd.org but with tg instead of the waste part here to catch address grabbers (sending mail to that address yields a 24-hour total blacklist of your IPv4 address I ve yet to get enough spam via IPv6 to say filtering it is worth the cost). Thanks in advance!


Update 2011-07-12: We talked, and it was agreed to not force a shell history; instead I will now put problem solutions into smallish scripts and commit them into the sysadmin SCM. It was not solved using legal arguments, as many people commented would have been difficult; instead, they acknowledged that I was concerned with this, and we searched for a different solution to the head sysadmin s original concerns (apparently, to figure out how to fix things without reinventing the fix every time, and to find out what was changed on a server in case it breaks).

Thorsten Glaser: New releases

You might have noticed the release of mksh R40 recently, after more than a year of development. Well, stay tuned for both R40b (with accumulated fixes) and R41 (intent to speed up array handling a lot and prepare for what we postponed to mksh R42 now associative, multi-dimensional arrays). You should also upgrade, if you have not yet done so, to kwalletcli 2.11. Finally, jupp 3.1.15 was left out to the world, including Minix 3 users this time, by special request of one of these on our mailing list. In addition to the MidnightBSD mport which has been there in like forever and the MirPort and the FreeWRT package, in December 2011 a user submitted it to FreeBSD ports, and Benny is going to add it to NetBSD pkgsrc soon, he said. (He also updated their mksh source package. Thanks!) I ve been asked by two people, independent from each other, when I ll upload it to Debian proper, instead of the private-repo packaging. Maybe I should indeed do that, comments?

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