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8 May 2016

Arturo Borrero Gonz lez: Continuous integration for the Debian HA stack


Good news. The Debian Continuous Integration system is just awesome.

If a developer of a package prepares and declares tests for a given package, this CI system will trigger these test from time to time.
These tests are intended to check packages 'as installed', i.e, test what the end user is going to use in a final system.

The CI system is being improved, and now it supports 2 architectures: amd64 and arm64. Also, it now implements LXC as a backend, so the level of isolation available to run tests is very good, allowing us developers to launch even more elaborated tests.

This is the case of the HA stack (pacemaker, corosync, crmsh...), and the good news is that Debian is now continuously testing these packages.

At the time of this blog post, these are the tests:

Check the CI page for corosync, pacemaker and crmsh for more details.

The basic tests for crmsh was contributed by myself, you can check the two [1][2] commits in the git packaging repo.

This means that we should be able to detect and fix issues in these software packages very early in the development cycle (very cheap and easy compared to fixing things once packages migrate to testing or even stable).

For all users of HA cluster with Debian, these are definitely good news. We have now a HA stack in a fairly different state than in previous years :-) Big step forward.

Most of my Netfilter packages also implement these tests, but that subject doesn't belong to this blogpost.

7 May 2016

Russ Allbery: remctl 3.11

The primary change in this release is porting the remctl extension to PHP 7. PHP 7.0 included a major change to the PHP API for binary extensions, which required quite a lot of porting (contributed by Nish Aravamudan). Due to the depth of the changes, the extension has been forked and the PHP 5 version of the extension should be considered frozen. Currently, they both provide the same functionality, but expect new functionality to be released only for PHP 7 or later. This release also includes numerous portability fixes for older versions of Heimdal and numerous fixes to the RPM spec, both thanks to Jeffrey Hutzelman. You can get the latest release from the remctl distribution page.

6 May 2016

Matthias Klumpp: Adventures in D programming

I recently wrote a bigger project in the D programming language, the appstream-generator (asgen). Since I rarely leave the C/C++/Python realm, and came to like many aspects of D, I thought blogging about my experience could be useful for people considering to use D. Disclaimer: I am not an expert on programming language design, and this is not universally valid criticism of D just my personal opinion from building one project with it. Why choose D in the first place? The previous AppStream generator was written in Python, which wasn t ideal for the task for multiple reasons, most notably multiprocessing and LMDB not working well together (and in general, multiprocessing being terrible to work with) and the need to reimplement some already existing C code in Python again. So, I wanted a compiled language which would work well together with the existing C code in libappstream. Using C was an option, but my least favourite one (writing this in C would have been much more cumbersome). I looked at Go and Rust and wrote some small programs performing basic operations that I needed for asgen, to get a feeling for the language. Interfacing C code with Go was relatively hard since libappstream is a GObject-based C library, I expected to be able to auto-generate Go bindings from the GIR, but there were only few outdated projects available which did that. Rust on the other hand required the most time in learning it, and since I only briefly looked into it, I still can t write Rust code without having the coding reference open. I started to implement the same examples in D just for fun, as I didn t plan to use D (I was aiming at Go back then), but the language looked interesting. The D language had the huge advantage of being very familiar to me as a C/C++ programmer, while also having a rich standard library, which included great stuff like std.concurrency.Generator, std.parallelism, etc. Translating Python code into D was incredibly easy, additionally a gir-d-generator which is actively maintained exists (I created a small fork anyway, to be able to directly link against the libappstream library, instead of dynamically loading it). What is great about D? This list is just a huge braindump of things I had on my mind at the time of writing  Interfacing with C There are multiple things which make D awesome, for example interfacing with C code and to a limited degree with C++ code is really easy. Also, working with functions from C in D feels natural. Take these C functions imported into D:
extern(C):
nothrow:
struct _mystruct  
alias mystruct_p = _mystruct*;
mystruct_p = mystruct_create ();
mystruct_load_file (mystruct_p my, const(char) *filename);
mystruct_free (mystruct_p my);
You can call them from D code in two ways:
auto test = mystruct_create ();
// treating "test" as function parameter
mystruct_load_file (test, "/tmp/example");
// treating the function as member of "test"
test.mystruct_load_file ("/tmp/example");
test.mystruct_free ();
This allows writing logically sane code, in case the C functions can really be considered member functions of the struct they are acting on. This property of the language is a general concept, so a function which takes a string as first parameter, can also be called like a member function of string. Writing D bindings to existing C code is also really simple, and can even be automatized using tools like dstep. Since D can also easily export C functions, calling D code from C is also possible. Getting rid of C++ cruft There are many things which are bad in C++, some of which are inherited from C. D kills pretty much all of the stuff I found annoying. Some cool stuff from D is now in C++ as well, which makes this point a bit less strong, but it s still valid. E.g. getting rid of the #include preprocessor dance by using symbolic import statements makes sense, and there have IMHO been huge improvements over C++ when it comes to metaprogramming. Incredibly powerful metaprogramming Getting into detail about that would take way too long, but the metaprogramming abilities of D must be mentioned. You can do pretty much anything at compiletime, for example compiling regular expressions to make them run faster at runtime, or mixing in additional code from string constants. The template system is also very well thought out, and never caused me headaches as much as C++ sometimes manages to do. Built-in unit-test support Unittesting with D is really easy: You just add one or more unittest blocks to your code, in which you write your tests. When running the tests, the D compiler will collect the unittest blocks and build a test application out of them. The unittest scope is useful, because you can keep the actual code and the tests close together, and it encourages writing tests and keep them up-to-date. Additionally, D has built-in support for contract programming, which helps to further reduce bugs by validating input/output. Safe D While D gives you the whole power of a low-level system programming language, it also allows you to write safer code and have the compiler check for that, while still being able to use unsafe functions when needed. Unfortunately, @safe is not the default for functions though. Separate operators for addition and concatenation D exclusively uses the + operator for addition, while the ~ operator is used for concatenation. This is likely a personal quirk, but I love it very much that this distinction exists. It s nice for things like addition of two vectors vs. concatenation of vectors, and makes the whole language much more precise in its meaning. Optional garbage collector D has an optional garbage collector. Developing in D without GC is currently a bit cumbersome, but these issues are being addressed. If you can live with a GC though, having it active makes programming much easier. Built-in documentation generator This is almost granted for most new languages, but still something I want to mention: Ddoc is a standard tool to generate code documentation for D code, with a defined syntax for describing function parameters, classes, etc. It will even take the contents of a unittest scope to generate automatic examples for the usage of a function, which is pretty cool. Scope blocks The scope statement allows one to execute a bit of code before the function exists, when it failed or was successful. This is incredibly useful when working with C code, where a free statement needs to be issued when the function is exited, or some arbitrary cleanup needs to be performed on error. Yes, we do have smart pointers in C++ and with some GCC/Clang extensions a similar feature in C too. But the scopes concept in D is much more powerful. See Scope Guard Statement for details. Built-in syntax for parallel programming Working with threads is so much more fun in D compared to C! I recommend taking a look at the parallelism chapter of the Programming in D book. Pure functions D allows to mark functions as purely-functional, which allows the compiler to do optimizations on them, e.g. cache their return value. See pure-functions. D is fast! D matches the speed of C++ in almost all occasions, so you won t lose performance when writing D code that is, unless you have the GC run often in a threaded environment. Very active and friendly community The D community is very active and friendly so far I only had good experience, and I basically came into the community asking some tough questions regarding distro-integration and ABI stability of D. The D community is very enthusiastic about pushing D and especially the metaprogramming features of D to its limits, and consists of very knowledgeable people. Most discussion happens at the forums/newsgroups at forum.dlang.org. What is bad about D? Half-proprietary reference compiler This is probably the biggest issue. Not because the proprietary compiler is bad per se, but because of the implications this has for the D ecosystem. For the reference D compiler, Digital Mars D (DMD), only the frontend is distributed under a free license (Boost), while the backend is proprietary. The FLOSS frontend is what the free compilers, LLVM D Compiler (LDC) and GNU D Compiler (GDC) are based on. But since DMD is the reference compiler, most features land there first, and the Phobos standard library and druntime is tuned to work with DMD first. Since major Linux distributions can t ship with DMD, and the free compilers GDC and LDC lack behind DMD in terms of language, runtime and standard-library compatibility, this creates a split world of code that compiles with LDC, GDC or DMD, but never with all D compilers due to it relying on features not yet in e.g. GDCs Phobos. Especially for Linux distributions, there is no way to say use this compiler to get the best and latest D compatibility . Additionally, if people can t simply apt install latest-d, they are less likely to try the language. This is probably mainly an issue on Linux, but since Linux is the place where web applications are usually written and people are likely to try out new languages, it s really bad that the proprietary reference compiler is hurting D adoption in that way. That being said, I want to make clear DMD is a great compiler, which is very fast and build efficient code. I only criticise the fact that it is the language reference compiler. UPDATE: To clarify the half-proprietary nature of the compiler, let me quote the D FAQ:
The front end for the dmd D compiler is open source. The back end for dmd is licensed from Symantec, and is not compatible with open-source licenses such as the GPL. Nonetheless, the complete source comes with the compiler, and all development takes place publically on github. Compilers using the DMD front end and the GCC and LLVM open source backends are also available. The runtime library is completely open source using the Boost License 1.0. The gdc and ldc D compilers are completely open sourced.
Phobos (standard library) is deprecating features too quickly This basically goes hand in hand with the compiler issue mentioned above. Each D compiler ships its own version of Phobos, which it was tested against. For GDC, which I used to compile my code due to LDC having bugs at that time, this means that it is shipping with a very outdated copy of Phobos. Due to the rapid evolution of Phobos, this meant that the documentation of Phobos and the actual code I was working with were not always in sync, leading to many frustrating experiences. Furthermore, Phobos is sometimes removing deprecated bits about a year after they have been deprecated. Together with the older-Phobos situation, you might find yourself in a place where a feature was dropped, but the cool replacement is not yet available. Or you are unable to import some 3rd-party code because it uses some deprecated-and-removed feature internally. Or you are unable to use other code, because it was developed with a D compiler shipping with a newer Phobos. This is really annoying, and probably the biggest source of unhappiness I had while working with D especially the documentation not matching the actual code is a bad experience for someone new to the language. Incomplete free compilers with varying degrees of maturity LDC and GDC have bugs, and for someone new to the language it s not clear which one to choose. Both LDC and GDC have their own issues at time, but they are rapidly getting better, and I only encountered some actual compiler bugs in LDC (GDC worked fine, but with an incredibly out-of-date Phobos). All issues are fixed meanwhile, but this was a frustrating experience. Some clear advice or explanation which of the free compilers is to prefer when you are new to D would be neat. For GDC in particular, being developed outside of the main GCC project is likely a problem, because distributors need to manually add it to their GCC packaging, instead of having it readily available. I assume this is due to the DRuntime/Phobos not being subjected to the FSF CLA, but I can t actually say anything substantial about this issue. Debian adds GDC to its GCC packaging, but e.g. Fedora does not do that. No ABI compatibility D has a defined ABI too bad that in reality, the compilers are not interoperable. A binary compiled with GDC can t call a library compiled with LDC or DMD. GDC actually doesn t even support building shared libraries yet. For distributions, this is quite terrible, because it means that there must be one default D compiler, without any exception, and that users also need to use that specific compiler to link against distribution-provided D libraries. The different runtimes per compiler complicate that problem further. The D package manager, dub, does not yet play well with distro packaging This is an issue that is important to me, since I want my software to be easily packageable by Linux distributions. The issues causing packaging to be hard are reported as dub issue #838 and issue #839, with quite positive feedback so far, so this might soon be solved. The GC is sometimes an issue The garbage collector in D is quite dated (according to their own docs) and is currently being reworked. While working with asgen, which is a program creating a large amount of interconnected data structures in a threaded environment, I realized that the GC is significantly slowing down the application when threads are used (it also seems to use UNIX signals SIGUSR1 and SIGUSR2 to stop/resume threads, which I still find odd). Also, the GC performed poorly on memory pressure, which did get asgen killed by the OOM killer on some more memory-constrained machines. Triggering a manual collection run after a large amount of these interconnected data structures wasn t needed anymore solved this problem for most systems, but it would of course have been better to not needing to give the GC any hints. The stop-the-world behavior isn t a problem for asgen, but it might be for other applications. These issues are at time being worked on, with a GSoC project laying the foundation for further GC improvements. version is a reserved word Okay, that is admittedly a very tiny nitpick, but when developing an app which works with packages and versions, it s slightly annoying. The version keyword is used for conditional compilation, and needing to abbreviate it to ver in all parts of the code sucks a little (e.g. the Package interface can t have a property version , but now has ver instead). The ecosystem is not (yet) mature In general it can be said that the D ecosystem, while existing for almost 9 years, is not yet that mature. There are various quirks you have to deal with when working with D code on Linux. It s always nothing major, usually you can easily solve these issues and go on, but it s annoying to have these papercuts. This is not something which can be resolved by D itself, this point will solve itself as more people start to use D and D support in Linux distributions gets more polished. Conclusion I like to work with D, and I consider it to be a great language the quirks it has in its toolchain are not that bad to prevent writing great things with it. At time, if I am not writing a shared library or something which uses much existing C++ code, I would prefer D for that task. If a garbage collector is a problem (e.g. for some real-time applications, or when the target architecture can t run a GC), I would not recommend to use D. Rust seems to be the much better choice then. In any case, D s flat learning curve (for C/C++ people) paired with the smart choices taken in language design, the powerful metaprogramming, the rich standard library and helpful community makes it great to try out and to develop software for scenarios where you would otherwise choose C++ or Java. Quite honestly, I think D could be a great language for tasks where you would usually choose Python, Java or C++, and I am seriously considering to replace quite some Python code with D code. For very low-level stuff, C is IMHO still the better choice. As always, choosing the right programming language is only 50% technical aspects, and 50% personal taste  UPDATE: To get some idea of D, check out the D tour on the new website tour.dlang.org.

Dirk Eddelbuettel: RcppArmadillo 0.6.700.6.0

armadillo image A second Armadillo release 6.700.6 came out in the 6.700 series, and we uploaded RcppArmadillo 0.6.700.6.0 to CRAN and Debian. This followed the usual thorough reverse-dependecy checking of by now 220 packages using. This release is a little unusual in that it contains both upstream bugfixes in the same series (see below) but also two nice bug fixes from the RcppArmadillo side. Both were squashed by George G. Vega Yon via two focused pull request. The first ensures that we can now use ARMA_64BIT_WORD (provided C++11 is turned on too) allowing for much bigger Armadillo objects. And the second plugs a small leak in the sparse matrix converter I had added a while back. Nice work, all told! Armadillo is a powerful and expressive C++ template library for linear algebra aiming towards a good balance between speed and ease of use with a syntax deliberately close to a Matlab. Changes in this release are as follows:
Changes in RcppArmadillo version 0.6.700.6.0 (2016-05-05)
  • Upgraded to Armadillo 6.700.6 (Catabolic Amalgamator Deluxe)
    • fix for handling empty matrices by kron()
    • fix for clang warning in advanced matrix constructors
    • fix for false deprecated warning in trunc_log() and trunc_exp()
    • fix for gcc-6.1 warning about misleading indentation
    • corrected documentation for the solve() function
  • Added support for int64_t (ARMA_64BIT_WORD) when required during compilation time. (PR #90 by George G. Vega Yon, fixing #88)
  • Fixed bug in SpMat exporter (PR #91 by George G. Vega Yon, fixing #89 and #72)
Courtesy of CRANberries, there is also a diffstat report for this release. As always, more detailed information is on the RcppArmadillo page. Questions, comments etc should go to the rcpp-devel mailing list off the R-Forge page.

This post by Dirk Eddelbuettel originated on his Thinking inside the box blog. Please report excessive re-aggregation in third-party for-profit settings.

3 May 2016

Raphaël Hertzog: My Free Software Activities in April 2016

My monthly report covers a large part of what I have been doing in the free software world. I write it for my donators (thanks to them!) but also for the wider Debian community because it can give ideas to newcomers and it s one of the best ways to find volunteers to work with me on projects that matter to me. Debian LTS I handled a new LTS sponsor that wanted to see wheezy keep supporting armel and armhf. This was not part of our initial plans (set during last Debconf) and I thus mailed all teams that were impacted if we were to collectively decide that it was OK to support those architectures. While I was hoping to get a clear answer rather quickly, it turns out that we never managed to get an answer to the question from all parties. Instead the discussion drifted on the more general topic of how we handle sponsorship/funding in the LTS project. Fortunately, the buildd maintainers said they were OK with this and the ftpmasters had no objections, and they both implicitly enacted the decision: Ansgar Burchardt kept the armel/armhf architectures in the wheezy/updates suite when he handled the switch to the LTS team, and Aur lien Jarno also configured wanna-build to keep building armel/armhf for the suite. The DSA team did not confirm that this change was not interfering with one of their plans to decommission some hardware. Build daemons are a shared resource anyway and a single server is likely to handle builds for multiple releases. DebConf 16 This month I registered for DebConf 16 and submitted multiple talk/BoF proposals: I want to share the setup we use in Kali as it can be useful for other derivatives and also for Debian itself to help smooth the relationship with derivatives. I also want to open again the debate on the usage of money within Debian. It s a hard topic but we should really strive to take some official position on what s possible and what s not possible. With Debian LTS and its sponsorship we have seen that we can use money to some extent without hurting the Debian project as a whole. Can this be transposed to other teams or projects? What are the limits? Can we define a framework and clear rules? I expect the discussion to be very interesting in the BoF. Mehdi Dogguy has agreed to handle this BoF with me. Packaging Django. I uploaded 1.8.12 to jessie-backports and 1.9.5 to unstable. I filed two upstream bugs (26473 and 26474) for two problems spotted by lintian. Unfortunately, when I wanted to upload it to unstable, the test suite did not ran. I pinned this down to a sqlite regression. Chris Lamb filed #820225 and I contacted the SQLite and Django upstream developers by email to point them to this issue. I helped the SQLite upstream author (Richard Hipp) to reproduce the issue and he was quick to provide a patch which landed in 3.12.1. Later in the month I made another upload to fix an upgrade bug (#821789). GNOME 3.20. As for each new version, I updated gnome-shell-timer to ensure it works with the new GNOME. This time I spent a bit more time to fix a regression (805347) that dates back to a while and that would never be fixed otherwise since the upstream author orphaned this extension (as he no longer uses GNOME). I have also been bitten by display problems where accented characters would be displayed below the character that follows. With the help of members of the GNOME team, we found out that this was a problem specific to the cantarell font and was only triggered with Harfbuzz 1.2. This is tracked in Debian with #822682 on harfbuzz and #822762 in fonts-cantarell. There s a new upstream release (with the fix) ready to be packaged but unfortunately it is blocked by the lack of a recent fontforge in Debian. I thus mailed debian-mentors in the hope to find volunteers to help the pkg-fonts team to package a newer version Misc Debian/Kali work Distro Tracker. I started to mentor Vladimir Likic who contacted me because he wants to contribute to Distro Tracker. I helped him to setup his development environment and we fixed a few issues in the process. Bug reports. I filed many bug reports, most of them due to my work on Kali: I also investigated #819958 that was affecting testing since it has been reported to Kali as well. And I made an NMU of dh-make-golang to fix #819472 that I reported earlier. Thanks See you next month for a new summary of my activities.

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Russ Allbery: Review: The Effective Engineer

Review: The Effective Engineer, by Edmond Lau
Publisher: Effective Bookshelf
Copyright: 2015
ISBN: 0-9961281-0-7
Format: Trade paperback
Pages: 222
Silicon Valley start-up tech companies have a standard way of thinking about work. Large chunks of this come from Google, which pioneered a wide variety of new, or at least not-yet-mainstream, ways of organizing and thinking about work. The rest accreted through experience with fast-paced start-ups, engineer-focused companies, web delivery of products, and rabid turnover and high job mobility within a hothouse of fairly similar companies. A key part of this mindset is the firm belief that this atmosphere has created a better way to work, at least for software engineers (and systems administrators, although heaven forbid that one call them that any more): more effective, more efficient, more focused on what really matters. I think this is at least partly true, at least from the perspective of a software engineer. This Silicon Valley work structure focuses on data gathering, data-based decision-making, introspection, analysis, and continuous improvement, all of which I think are defensibly pointed in the right direction (if rarely as rigorous as one might want to believe). It absorbs bits and pieces of work organization techniques that are almost certainly improvements for the type of work software engineers do: Agile, Lean, continuous deployment, and fast iteration times. In other cases, though, I'm less convinced that this Silicon Valley consensus is objectively better as opposed to simply different; interviewing, for instance, is a puzzle that I don't think anyone has figured out, and the remarkable consensus in Silicon Valley on how to interview (basically, "like Google except for the bits we thought were obnoxious") feels more like a social fad than a sign of getting it right. But every industry has its culture of good ideas, bad ideas, fads, and fashion, and it's quite valuable to know that culture if you want to work in that industry. The Effective Engineer is a self-published book by Edmund Lau, a Silicon Valley software engineer who also drifted (as is so common in Silicon Valley) into mentoring, organizing, and speaking to other software engineers. Its purpose, per the subtitle, is to tell you "how to leverage your efforts in software engineering to make a disproportionate and meaningful impact." While that's not exactly wrong, and the book contains some useful and valuable tips, I'd tend to give it a slightly different subtitle: "a primer on how a Silicon Valley software engineer is expected to think about their work." This is a bit more practical, a bit less confident, and a bit less convinced of its own correctness than Lau might want to present his work, but it's just as valuable of a purpose if you want to work in the industry. (And is a bit more honest about its applicability outside of that industry.) What this book does extremely well is present, in a condensed, straightforward, and fast-moving form, most of the highlights of how start-ups and web-scale companies approach software engineering and the SWE role in companies (SWE, meaning software engineer, is another bit of Google terminology that's now nearly universal). If you've already worked in or around this industry for a while, you've probably picked up a lot of this via osmosis: prioritize based on impact and be unapologetic about letting other things drop, have a growth mindset, reprioritize regularly, increase your iteration speed, measure everything constantly, check your assumptions against data, derisk your estimates, use code review and automated testing (but not too much), automate operations, and invest heavily in hiring and onboarding. (The preceding list is a chapter list for this book.) If you're working at one of these sorts of companies, you're probably currently somewhere between nodding and rolling your eyes because no one at work will shut up about these topics. But if you've not worked inside one of these companies, even if you've done software engineering elsewhere, this is a great book to read to prepare yourself. You're going to hear about these ideas constantly, and, if it achieves nothing else at all, The Effective Engineer will give you a firm enough grounding in the lingo and mindset that you can have intelligent conversations with people who assume this is the only way to think about software engineering. By this point, you might be detecting a certain cynicism in this review. It's not entirely fair: a lot of these ideas are clearly good ones, and Lau does a good job of describing them quickly and coherently. It's a good job for what it is. But there are a couple of things that limited its appeal for me. First, it's definitely a primer. I read it after having worked at a web-scale start-up for a year and a half. There wasn't much in it that seemed particularly new, and it's somewhat superficial. The whole middle section in particular (build tools for yourself, measure everything, be data-driven) are topics for which the devil is often in the details. Lau gives you the terminology and the expected benefits, but putting any one of these techniques into practice could be a book (or several) by itself. Don't expect to come away from The Effective Engineer with much of a concrete plan for how to do these things in your day-to-day software development projects. But it's a good reminder to be thinking about, say, how to embed metrics and data-gathering hooks into the software you write. This is the nature of a primer; no 222-page book can get into much depth about the fractal complexity of doing good, fast, scalable software development. Second, there's a fundamental question raised by a book like this: effective at what? Lau tackles that in the first chapter with his focus on impact and leverage, and it's good advice as far as it goes. (Regular readers of my book reviews know that I love this sort of time management and prioritization discussion.) But measuring impact is a hard problem that requires a prioritization framework, and this is not really the book for this. The Effective Engineer is written primarily for software developers at start-ups, leaves the whole venture-capital start-up process as unquestioned background material, and accepts without comment the standard measures of value in that world: fast-deployed products, hypergrowth, racing competitors for perceived innovation, and finding ways to extract money. That's as deep into the question of impact as Lau gets: increases in company revenue. There's nothing wrong with this for the kind of book Lau intended to write, and it's not his fault that I find it unsatisfying. But don't expect The Effective Engineer to ask any hard questions about whether that's a meaningful definition of impact, or to talk much about less objective goals: quality of implementation, craftsmanship, giving back to a broader community via free software contributions, impact on the world in ways that can't be measured in market share, or anything else that is unlikely to lead to objective impact for company profits. At best he leaves a bit of wiggle room around using the concept of impact with different goals. If you're a new graduate who wants to work at Silicon-Valley-style start-ups, this is a great orientation, and likewise if you're coming from a different area of software development into that world. If you're not working in that industry, The Effective Engineer may still be moderately interesting, but it's not written for that audience and has little or nothing to say of the challenges of other types of businesses. But if you've already worked in the industry for a while, or if you're more interested in deeper discussions of goals and subjective values, you may not get much out of this. Rating: 7 out of 10

2 May 2016

Reproducible builds folks: Reproducible builds: week 53 in Stretch cycle

What happened in the Reproducible Builds effort between April 24th and 30th 2016. Media coverage Reproducible builds were mentioned explicitly in two talks at the Mini-DebConf in Vienna: Aspiration together with the OTF CommunityLab released their report about the Reproducible Builds summit in December 2015 in Athens. Toolchain fixes Now that the GCC development window has been opened again, the SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH patch by Dhole and Matthias Klose to address the issue timestamps_from_cpp_macros (__DATE__ / __TIME__) has been applied upstream and will be released with GCC 7. Following that Matthias Klose also has uploaded gcc-5/5.3.1-17 and gcc-6/6.1.1-1 to unstable with a backport of that SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH patch. Emmanuel Bourg uploaded maven/3.3.9-4, which uses SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH for the maven.build.timestamp. (SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH specification) Other upstream changes Alexis Bienven e submitted a patch to Sphinx which extends SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH support for copyright years in generated documentation. Packages fixed The following 12 packages have become reproducible due to changes in their build dependencies: hhvm jcsp libfann libflexdock-java libjcommon-java libswingx1-java mobile-atlas-creator not-yet-commons-ssl plexus-utils squareness svnclientadapter The following packages have became reproducible after being fixed: Some uploads have fixed some reproducibility issues, but not all of them: Patches submitted that have not made their way to the archive yet: Package reviews 95 reviews have been added, 15 have been updated and 129 have been removed in this week. 22 FTBFS bugs have been reported by Chris Lamb and Martin Michlmayr. diffoscope development strip-nondeterminism development tests.reproducible-builds.org Misc. Amongst the 29 interns who will work on Debian through GSoC and Outreachy there are four who will be contributing to Reproducible Builds for Debian and Free Software. We are very glad to welcome ceridwen, Satyam Zode, Scarlett Clark and Valerie Young and look forward to working together with them the coming months (and maybe beyond)! This week's edition was written by Reiner Herrmann and Holger Levsen and reviewed by a bunch of Reproducible builds folks on IRC.

Vincent Bernat: Pragmatic Debian packaging

While the creation of Debian packages is abundantly documented, most tutorials are targeted to packages implementing the Debian policy. Moreover, Debian packaging has a reputation of being unnecessarily difficult1 and many people prefer to use less constrained tools2 like fpm or CheckInstall. However, I would like to show how building Debian packages with the official tools can become straightforward if you bend some rules:
  1. No source package will be generated. Packages will be built directly from a checkout of a VCS repository.
  2. Additional dependencies can be downloaded during build. Packaging individually each dependency is a painstaking work, notably when you have to deal with some fast-paced ecosystems like Java, Javascript and Go.
  3. The produced packages may bundle dependencies. This is likely to raise some concerns about security and long-term maintenance, but this is a common trade-off in many ecosystems, notably Java, Javascript and Go.

Pragmatic packages 101 In the Debian archive, you have two kinds of packages: the source packages and the binary packages. Each binary package is built from a source package. You need a name for each package. As stated in the introduction, we won t generate a source package but we will work with its unpacked form which is any source tree containing a debian/ directory. In our examples, we will start with a source tree containing only a debian/ directory but you are free to include this debian/ directory into an existing project. As an example, we will package memcached, a distributed memory cache. There are four files to create:
  • debian/compat,
  • debian/changelog,
  • debian/control, and
  • debian/rules.
The first one is easy. Just put 9 in it:
echo 9 > debian/compat
The second one has the following content:
memcached (0-0) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium
  * Fake entry
 -- Happy Packager <happy@example.com>  Tue, 19 Apr 2016 22:27:05 +0200
The only important information is the name of the source package, memcached, on the first line. Everything else can be left as is as it won t influence the generated binary packages.

The control file debian/control describes the metadata of both the source package and the generated binary packages. We have to write a block for each of them.
Source: memcached
Maintainer: Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org>
Package: memcached
Architecture: any
Description: high-performance memory object caching system
The source package is called memcached. We have to use the same name as in debian/changelog. We generate only one binary package: memcached. In the remaining of the example, when you see memcached, this is the name of a binary package. The Architecture field should be set to either any or all. Use all exclusively if the package contains only arch-independent files. In doubt, just stick to any. The Description field contains a short description of the binary package.

The build recipe The last mandatory file is debian/rules. It s the recipe of the package. We need to retrieve memcached, build it and install its file tree in debian/memcached/. It looks like this:
#!/usr/bin/make -f
DISTRIBUTION = $(shell lsb_release -sr)
VERSION = 1.4.25
PACKAGEVERSION = $(VERSION)-0~$(DISTRIBUTION)0
TARBALL = memcached-$(VERSION).tar.gz
URL = http://www.memcached.org/files/$(TARBALL)
%:
    dh $@
override_dh_auto_clean:
override_dh_auto_test:
override_dh_auto_build:
override_dh_auto_install:
    wget -N --progress=dot:mega $(URL)
    tar --strip-components=1 -xf $(TARBALL)
    ./configure --prefix=/usr
    make
    make install DESTDIR=debian/memcached
override_dh_gencontrol:
    dh_gencontrol -- -v$(PACKAGEVERSION)
The empty targets override_dh_auto_clean, override_dh_auto_test and override_dh_auto_build keep debhelper from being too smart. The override_dh_gencontrol target sets the package version3 without updating debian/changelog. If you ignore the slight boilerplate, the recipe is quite similar to what you would have done with fpm:
DISTRIBUTION=$(lsb_release -sr)
VERSION=1.4.25
PACKAGEVERSION=$ VERSION -0~$ DISTRIBUTION 0
TARBALL=memcached-$ VERSION .tar.gz
URL=http://www.memcached.org/files/$ TARBALL 
wget -N --progress=dot:mega $ URL 
tar --strip-components=1 -xf $ TARBALL 
./configure --prefix=/usr
make
make install DESTDIR=/tmp/installdir
# Build the final package
fpm -s dir -t deb \
    -n memcached \
    -v $ PACKAGEVERSION  \
    -C /tmp/installdir \
    --description "high-performance memory object caching system"
You can review the whole package tree on GitHub and build it with dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -b.

Pragmatic packages 102 At this point, we can iterate and add several improvements to our memcached package. None of those are mandatory but they are usually worth the additional effort.

Build dependencies Our initial build recipe only work when several packages are installed, like wget and libevent-dev. They are not present on all Debian systems. You can easily express that you need them by adding a Build-Depends section for the source package in debian/control:
Source: memcached
Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 9),
               wget, ca-certificates, lsb-release,
               libevent-dev
Always specify the debhelper (>= 9) dependency as we heavily rely on it. We don t require make or a C compiler because it is assumed that the build-essential meta-package is installed and it pulls those. dpkg-buildpackage will complain if the dependencies are not met. If you want to install those packages from your CI system, you can use the following command4:
mk-build-deps \
    -t 'apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes --no-install-recommends -qqy' \
    -i -r debian/control
You may also want to investigate pbuilder or sbuild, two tools to build Debian packages in a clean isolated environment.

Runtime dependencies If the resulting package is installed on a freshly installed machine, it won t work because it will be missing libevent, a required library for memcached. You can express the dependencies needed by each binary package by adding a Depends field. Moreover, for dynamic libraries, you can automatically get the right dependencies by using some substitution variables:
Package: memcached
Depends: $ misc:Depends , $ shlibs:Depends 
The resulting package will contain the following information:
$ dpkg -I ../memcached_1.4.25-0\~unstable0_amd64.deb   grep Depends
 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.17), libevent-2.0-5 (>= 2.0.10-stable)

Integration with init system Most packaged daemons come with some integration with the init system. This integration ensures the daemon will be started on boot and restarted on upgrade. For Debian-based distributions, there are several init systems available. The most prominent ones are:
  • System-V init is the historical init system. More modern inits are able to reuse scripts written for this init, so this is a safe common denominator for packaged daemons.
  • Upstart is the less-historical init system for Ubuntu (used in Ubuntu 14.10 and previous releases).
  • systemd is the default init system for Debian since Jessie and for Ubuntu since 15.04.
Writing a correct script for the System-V init is error-prone. Therefore, I usually prefer to provide a native configuration file for the default init system of the targeted distribution (Upstart and systemd).

System-V If you want to provide a System-V init script, have a look at /etc/init.d/skeleton on the most ancient distribution you want to target and adapt it5. Put the result in debian/memcached.init. It will be installed at the right place, invoked on install, upgrade and removal. On Debian-based systems, many init scripts allow user customizations by providing a /etc/default/memcached file. You can ship one by putting its content in debian/memcached.default.

Upstart Providing an Upstart job is similar: put it in debian/memcached.upstart. For example:
description "memcached daemon"
start on runlevel [2345]
stop on runlevel [!2345]
respawn
respawn limit 5 60
expect daemon
script
  . /etc/default/memcached
  exec memcached -d -u $USER -p $PORT -m $CACHESIZE -c $MAXCONN $OPTIONS
end script
When writing an Upstart job, the most important directive is expect. Be sure to get it right. Here, we use expect daemon and memcached is started with the -d flag.

systemd Providing a systemd unit is a bit more complex. The content of the file should go in debian/memcached.service. For example:
[Unit]
Description=memcached daemon
After=network.target
[Service]
Type=forking
EnvironmentFile=/etc/default/memcached
ExecStart=/usr/bin/memcached -d -u $USER -p $PORT -m $CACHESIZE -c $MAXCONN $OPTIONS
Restart=on-failure
[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
We reuse /etc/default/memcached even if it is not considered a good practice with systemd6. Like for Upstart, the directive Type is quite important. We used forking as memcached is started with the -d flag. You also need to add a build-dependency to dh-systemd in debian/control:
Source: memcached
Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 9),
               wget, ca-certificates, lsb-release,
               libevent-dev,
               dh-systemd
And you need to modify the default rule in debian/rules:
%:
    dh $@ --with systemd
The extra complexity is a bit unfortunate but systemd integration is not part of debhelper7. Without those additional modifications, the unit will get installed but you won t get a proper integration and the service won t be enabled on install or boot.

Dedicated user Many daemons don t need to run as root and it is a good practice to ship a dedicated user. In the case of memcached, we can provide a _memcached user8. Add a debian/memcached.postinst file with the following content:
#!/bin/sh
set -e
case "$1" in
    configure)
        adduser --system --disabled-password --disabled-login --home /var/empty \
                --no-create-home --quiet --force-badname --group _memcached
        ;;
esac
#DEBHELPER#
exit 0
There is no cleanup of the user when the package is removed for two reasons:
  1. Less stuff to write.
  2. The user could still own some files.
The utility adduser will do the right thing whatever the requested user already exists or not. You need to add it as a dependency in debian/control:
Package: memcached
Depends: $ misc:Depends , $ shlibs:Depends , adduser
The #DEBHELPER# marker is important as it will be replaced by some code to handle the service configuration files (or some other stuff). You can review the whole package tree on GitHub and build it with dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -b.

Pragmatic packages 103 It is possible to leverage debhelper to reduce the recipe size and to make it more declarative. This section is quite optional and it requires understanding a bit more how a Debian package is built. Feel free to skip it.

The big picture There are four steps to build a regular Debian package:
  1. debian/rules clean should clean the source tree to make it pristine.
  2. debian/rules build should trigger the build. For an autoconf-based software, like memcached, this step should execute something like ./configure && make.
  3. debian/rules install should install the file tree of each binary package. For an autoconf-based software, this step should execute make install DESTDIR=debian/memcached.
  4. debian/rules binary will pack the different file trees into binary packages.
You don t directly write each of those targets. Instead, you let dh, a component of debhelper, do most of the work. The following debian/rules file should do almost everything correctly with many source packages:
#!/usr/bin/make -f
%:
    dh $@
For each of the four targets described above, you can run dh with --no-act to see what it would do. For example:
$ dh build --no-act
   dh_testdir
   dh_update_autotools_config
   dh_auto_configure
   dh_auto_build
   dh_auto_test
Each of those helpers has a manual page. Helpers starting with dh_auto_ are a bit magic . For example, dh_auto_configure will try to automatically configure a package prior to building: it will detect the build system and invoke ./configure, cmake or Makefile.PL. If one of the helpers do not do the right thing, you can replace it by using an override target:
override_dh_auto_configure:
    ./configure --with-some-grog
Those helpers are also configurable, so you can just alter a bit their behaviour by invoking them with additional options:
override_dh_auto_configure:
    dh_auto_configure -- --with-some-grog
This way, ./configure will be called with your custom flag but also with a lot of default flags like --prefix=/usr for better integration. In the initial memcached example, we overrode all those magic targets. dh_auto_clean, dh_auto_configure and dh_auto_build are converted to no-ops to avoid any unexpected behaviour. dh_auto_install is hijacked to do all the build process. Additionally, we modified the behavior of the dh_gencontrol helper by forcing the version number instead of using the one from debian/changelog.

Automatic builds As memcached is an autoconf-enabled package, dh knows how to build it: ./configure && make && make install. Therefore, we can let it handle most of the work with this debian/rules file:
#!/usr/bin/make -f
DISTRIBUTION = $(shell lsb_release -sr)
VERSION = 1.4.25
PACKAGEVERSION = $(VERSION)-0~$(DISTRIBUTION)0
TARBALL = memcached-$(VERSION).tar.gz
URL = http://www.memcached.org/files/$(TARBALL)
%:
    dh $@ --with systemd
override_dh_auto_clean:
    wget -N --progress=dot:mega $(URL)
    tar --strip-components=1 -xf $(TARBALL)
override_dh_auto_test:
    # Don't run the whitespace test
    rm t/whitespace.t
    dh_auto_test
override_dh_gencontrol:
    dh_gencontrol -- -v$(PACKAGEVERSION)
The dh_auto_clean target is hijacked to download and setup the source tree9. We don t override the dh_auto_configure step, so dh will execute the ./configure script with the appropriate options. We don t override the dh_auto_build step either: dh will execute make. dh_auto_test is invoked after the build and it will run the memcached test suite. We need to override it because one of the test is complaining about odd whitespaces in the debian/ directory. We suppress this rogue test and let dh_auto_test executes the test suite. dh_auto_install is not overriden either, so dh will execute some variant of make install. To get a better sense of the difference, here is a diff:
--- memcached-intermediate/debian/rules 2016-04-30 14:02:37.425593362 +0200
+++ memcached/debian/rules  2016-05-01 14:55:15.815063835 +0200
@@ -12,10 +12,9 @@
 override_dh_auto_clean:
-override_dh_auto_test:
-override_dh_auto_build:
-override_dh_auto_install:
    wget -N --progress=dot:mega $(URL)
    tar --strip-components=1 -xf $(TARBALL)
-   ./configure --prefix=/usr
-   make
-   make install DESTDIR=debian/memcached
+
+override_dh_auto_test:
+   # Don't run the whitespace test
+   rm t/whitespace.t
+   dh_auto_test
It is up to you to decide if dh can do some work for you, but you could try to start from a minimal debian/rules and only override some targets.

Install additional files While make install installed the essential files for memcached, you may want to put additional files in the binary package. You could use cp in your build recipe, but you can also declare them:
  • files listed in debian/memcached.docs will be copied to /usr/share/doc/memcached by dh_installdocs,
  • files listed in debian/memcached.examples will be copied to /usr/share/doc/memcached/examples by dh_installexamples,
  • files listed in debian/memcached.manpages will be copied to the appropriate subdirectory of /usr/share/man by dh_installman,
Here is an example using wildcards for debian/memcached.docs:
doc/*.txt
If you need to copy some files to an arbitrary location, you can list them along with their destination directories in debian/memcached.install and dh_install will take care of the copy. Here is an example:
scripts/memcached-tool usr/bin
Using those files make the build process more declarative. It is a matter of taste and you are free to use cp in debian/rules instead. You can review the whole package tree on GitHub.

Other examples The GitHub repository contains some additional examples. They all follow the same scheme:
  • dh_auto_clean is hijacked to download and setup the source tree
  • dh_gencontrol is modified to use a computed version
Notably, you ll find daemons in Java, Go, Python and Node.js. The goal of those examples is to demonstrate that using Debian tools to build Debian packages can be straightforward. Hope this helps.

  1. People may remember the time before debhelper 7.0.50 (circa 2009) where debian/rules was a daunting beast. However, nowaday, the boilerplate is quite reduced.
  2. The complexity is not the only reason. Those alternative tools enable the creation of RPM packages, something that Debian tools obviously don t.
  3. There are many ways to version a package. Again, if you want to be pragmatic, the proposed solution should be good enough for Ubuntu. On Debian, it doesn t cover upgrade from one distribution version to another, but we assume that nowadays, systems get reinstalled instead of being upgraded.
  4. You also need to install devscripts and equivs package.
  5. It s also possible to use a script provided by upstream. However, there is no such thing as an init script that works on all distributions. Compare the proposed with the skeleton, check if it is using start-stop-daemon and if it sources /lib/lsb/init-functions before considering it. If it seems to fit, you can install it yourself in debian/memcached/etc/init.d/. debhelper will ensure its proper integration.
  6. Instead, a user wanting to customize the options is expected to edit the unit with systemctl edit.
  7. See #822670
  8. The Debian Policy doesn t provide any hint for the naming convention of those system users. A common usage is to prefix the daemon name with an underscore (like _memcached). Another common usage is to use Debian- as a prefix. The main drawback of the latest solution is that the name is likely to be replaced by the UID in ps and top because of its length.
  9. We could call dh_auto_clean at the end of the target to let it invoke make clean. However, it is assumed that a fresh checkout is used before each build.

Michal &#268;iha&#345;: Weekly phpMyAdmin contributions 2016-W17

Last week was quite split into many smaller tasks - working on our libraries (both SQL parser and motranslator got new releases with bug fixes), fixing bugs for upcoming 4.6.1 and working on documentation. From the libraries side, probably most visible is release of motranslator 1.0, just to claim it's now stable enough. Let's see if somebody else will pick it up as well or it will stay only for our use. Most time was however spent on our documentation. We've agreed to move wiki from our server to GitHub wiki and reduce content available on the wiki. So far it's really mixture of user documentation, notes and developer documentation. The final shape should be that wiki will contain only developer documentation and all end user documentation will go to our documentation. So far I've gone through about half of user docs pages, deleted duplicated ones and moved content to our documentation. It is most visible on the user guide which now contains way more information and hopefully it will get more complete in near future. Handled issues:

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30 April 2016

Chris Lamb: Free software activities in April 2016

Here is my monthly update covering a large part of what I have been doing in the free software world (previously):
Debian My work in the Reproducible Builds project was covered in our weekly reports. (#48, #49, #50, #51 & #52)
Uploads
  • redis (2:3.0.7-3) Adding, amongst some other changes, systemd LimitNOFILE support to allow a higher number of open file descriptors.


FTP Team

As a Debian FTP assistant I ACCEPTed 135 packages: aptitude, asm, beagle, blends, btrfs-progs, camitk, cegui-mk2, cmor-tables, containerd, debian-science, debops, debops-playbooks, designate-dashboard, efitools, facedetect, flask-testing, fstl, ganeti-os-noop, gnupg, golang-fsnotify, golang-github-appc-goaci, golang-github-benbjohnson-tmpl, golang-github-dchest-safefile, golang-github-docker-go, golang-github-dylanmei-winrmtest, golang-github-hawkular-hawkular-client-go, golang-github-hlandau-degoutils, golang-github-hpcloud-tail, golang-github-klauspost-pgzip, golang-github-kyokomi-emoji, golang-github-masterminds-semver-dev, golang-github-masterminds-vcs-dev, golang-github-masterzen-xmlpath, golang-github-mitchellh-ioprogress, golang-github-smartystreets-assertions, golang-gopkg-hlandau-configurable.v1, golang-gopkg-hlandau-easyconfig.v1, golang-gopkg-hlandau-service.v2, golang-objx, golang-pty, golang-text, gpaste, gradle-plugin-protobuf, grip, haskell-brick, haskell-hledger-ui, haskell-lambdabot-haskell-plugins, haskell-text-zipper, haskell-werewolf, hkgerman, howdoi, jupyter-client, jupyter-core, letsencrypt.sh, libbpp-phyl, libbpp-raa, libbpp-seq, libbpp-seq-omics, libcbor-xs-perl, libdancer-plugin-email-perl, libdata-page-pageset-perl, libevt, libevtx, libgit-version-compare-perl, libgovirt, libmsiecf, libnet-ldap-server-test-perl, libpgobject-type-datetime-perl, libpgobject-type-json-perl, libpng1.6, librest-client-perl, libsecp256k1, libsmali-java, libtemplates-parser, libtest-requires-git-perl, libtext-xslate-perl, linux, linux-signed, mandelbulber2, netlib-java, nginx, node-rc, node-utml, nvidia-cuda-toolkit, openfst, openjdk-9, openssl, php-cache-integration-tests, pulseaudio, pyfr, pygccxml, pytest-runner, python-adventure, python-arrayfire, python-django-feincms, python-fastimport, python-fitsio, python-imagesize, python-lib389, python-libtrace, python-neovim-gui, python3-proselint, pythonpy, pyzo, r-cran-ca, r-cran-fitbitscraper, r-cran-goftest, r-cran-rnexml, r-cran-rprotobuf, rrdtool, ruby-proxifier, ruby-seamless-database-pool, ruby-syslog-logger, rustc, s5, sahara-dashboard, salt-formula-ceilometer, salt-formula-cinder, salt-formula-glance, salt-formula-heat, salt-formula-horizon, salt-formula-keystone, salt-formula-neutron, salt-formula-nova, seer, simplejson, smrtanalysis, tiles-autotag, tqdm, tran, trove-dashboard, vim, vulkan, xapian-bindings & xapian-core.

Daniel Stender: What I've worked on for Debian this month

This month I've worked on the following things for Debian: To begin with that, I've set up a Debhelper sequencer script for dh-buildinfo1, this add-on now can be used with dh $@ --with buildinfo in deb/rules instead of having to explicitly call it somewhere in an override. Debops I've set up initial Debian packages of Debops2, a collection of fine crafted Ansible roles and playbooks especially for Debian servers, shipped with a couple of convenience and wrapper scripts in Python3. There are two binary packages, one for the toolset (debops), and the other for the playbooks and roles of the project (debops-playbooks). The application is easy to use, just initialize a new project with debops-init foo and add your server(s) to foo/ansible/inventory/hosts belonging to groups representing services and things you want to employ on them. Like the group [debops_gitlab] automatically installs a complete running Gitlab setup on one or a multitude of servers in the same run with the debops command4. Use other groups like [debops_mariadb_server] accordingly in the same host inventory. Ansible runs agent less, so you don't have to prepare freshly setup servers with nothing special to use that tool randomly (like on localhost). The list of things you could deploy with Debops is quite amazing and you've got dozens of services at your hand. The new packages are currently in experimental because they need some more fine tuning, like there are a couple of minor error messages which recently occur using it, but it works well. The (early staged) documentation unfortunately couldn't be packaged because of the scattered resp. collective nature of the project (all parts have their own Github repositories)5, and also how to generate the upstream tarball remains a bit of a challenge (currently, it's the outcome of debops-init)6. I'll have this package in unstable soon. More info on Debops is coming up, then. Hashicorp's Packer I'm very glad to announce that Packer7 is ready being available in unstable, and the two year old RFP bug could be finally closed8. It's another great and much convenient devops tool which does a lot of different things in an automated fashion using only a single "one-argument" CLI tool in combination with a couple of lines in a configuration script (thanks to Yaroslav Halchenko for the tip). Packer helps creating machine images for different platforms. This is like when you use e.g. Debian installations in a Qemu box for testing or development purposes. Instead of setting up a new virtual machine manually like installing Debian on another computer this process could be automated with Packer, like I've written about in this blog entry here9. You just need a template containing instructions for the included Qemu-builder and a preseeding script for the Debian installer, and there you go drinking your coffee while Packer does all the work for you: downloading the installation ISO image, creating the new virtual harddrive, booting the emulator, running the whole installation process automatically like answering questions, selecting things, rebooting without ISO image to complete the installation etc. A couple of minutes and you have a new pre-baked virtual machine image like from a vendoring machine, a fresh one everytime you need it. Packer10 supports a number of builders for different target platforms (desktop virtualization solutions as much as public cloud providers and private cloud software), can build in parallel, and also the full range of common provisioners can be employed in the process to equip the newly installed OSs. Vagrant boxes could be generated by one of the included postprocessors. I'll write more on Packer here on this blog, soon. There were more then two dozens of packages missing to complete Packer11, which is the achievement of combined forces within the pkg-go group. Much thanks esp. to Alexandre Viau who have worked on the most of the needed new packages. Thanks also to the FTP-masters which were always very quick in reviewing the Go packages, so that it could be proceeded to build and package the sub dependent new ones always consecutively. Squirrel3 I've didn't had the most work with it and just sponsored this for Fabian Wolff, but want to highlight here that there's a new package of Squirrel12 now available in Debian13. Squirrel is a lightweight scripting language, somewhat comparable to Lua. It's fully object-oriented and highly embeddable, it's used in a lot of commerical computer games under the hood for implementing intelligence for bots next to other things14, but also for the Internet of Things (it's embedded in hardware from Electric Imp). Squirrel functions could be called from C++15. I've filed an ITP bug for Squirrel already in 2011 (#651195), but always something else got in the way, and it ended up being an RFP. I'm really glad that it got picked up and completed. misc There were a couple of uploads on updated upstream tarballs and for fixing bugs, namely afl/2.10b-1 and 2.11b-1, python-afl/0.5.3-1, pyutilib/5.3.2-1, pyomo/4.3.11327-1, libvigraimpex/1.10.0+git20160211.167be93dfsg-2 (fix of #820429, thanks for Tobias Frost), and gamera/3.4.2+svn1454-1. For the pkg-go group, I've set up a new package of github-mitchellh-ioprogress (which is needed by the official DigitalOcean CLI tool doctl, now RFP #807956 instead of ITP due to the lack of time - again facing a lot of missing packages), and provided a little patch for dh-make-golang updating some standards16. For Packer I've also updated azure-go-autorest and azure-sdk as team upload (#821938, #821832), but it came out that the project which is currently under heavy development towards a new official release broke a lot in the past weeks (and no Git branching have been used), so that Packer as a matter of fact needed a vendored snapshot, although there have been only a couple of commits in between. Docker-registry hat the same problem with the new package of azure-sdk/2.1.1~beta1, so that it needed to be fixed, too (#822146). By the way, the tool ratt17 comes very handy for automatically test building down all reverse dependencies, not only for Go packages (thanks to Tianon Gravi for the tip). Finally, I've posted the needed reverse depencies as RFP bugs for Terraform18 (again quite a lot), Vuls19, and cve-dictionary20, which is needed for Vuls. I'll let them rest a while waiting to get picked up before working anything down.

Daniel Stender: My work for Debian in April

This month I've worked on the these things for Debian: To begin with that, I've set up a Debhelper sequencer script for dh-buildinfo1, this add-on now can be used with dh $@ --with buildinfo in deb/rules instead of having to explicitly call it somewhere in an override. Debops I've set up initial Debian packages of Debops2, a collection of fine crafted Ansible roles and playbooks especially for Debian servers (servers which run on Debian), which are shipped with a couple of helper and wrapper scripts in Python3. There are two binary packages, one for the toolset (debops), and the other for the playbooks and roles of the project (debops-playbooks). The application is easy to use, just initialize a new project with debops-init foo and add your server(s) to foo/ansible/inventory/hosts belonging to groups representing services and things you want to employ on them. For example, the group [debops_gitlab] automatically installs a complete running Gitlab setup on one or a multitude of servers in the same run with the debops command4. Other groups like [debops_mariadb_server] could be used accordingly in the same host inventory. Ansible works without agent, so you don't have to prepare freshly setup servers with nothing special to use that tool randomly (like on localhost). The list of things you could deploy with Debops is quite amazing and dozens of services are at hand. The new Debian packages are currently in experimental because they need some more fine tuning, e.g. there are a couple of minor error messages which recently occur using it, but it works well. The (early staged) documentation unfortunately couldn't be packaged because of the scattered resp. collective nature of the project (all parts have their own Github repositories)5, and also how to generate the upstream tarball remains a bit of a challenge (currently, it's the outcome of debops-init)6. I'll have this package in unstable soon. More info on Debops is coming up, then. HashiCorp's Packer I'm very glad to announce that Packer7 is ready being available in unstable, and the RFP bug could be finally closed after I've taken it over8. It's another great and much convenient devops tool which does a lot of different things in an automated fashion using only a single "one-argument" CLI tool in combination with a couple of lines in a configuration script (thanks to Yaroslav Halchenko for the tip). Packer helps creating machine images for different platforms. This is like when you use e.g. Debian installations in a Qemu box for testing or development purposes. Instead of setting up a new virtual machine manually the same way as installing Debian on another computer this process can be completely automated with Packer, like I've written about in this blog entry here9. You just need a template which contains instructions for the included Qemu builder and a preseeding script for the Debian installer, and there you go drinking your coffee while Packer does all the work: download the ISO image for installation, create the new virtual harddrive, boot the emulator, run the whole installation process automatically like with answering questions, selecting things, reboot without ISO image to complete the installation etc. A couple of minutes and you have a new pre-baked virtual machine image like from a vendoring machine, another fresh one could be created anytime. Packer10 supports a number of builders for different target platforms (desktop virtualization solutions as much as public cloud providers and private cloud software), can build in parallel, and also the full range of common provisioners can be employed in the process to equip the newly installed OSs with services and programs. Vagrant boxes could be generated by one of the included postprocessors. I'll write more on Packer here on this blog, soon. There were more then two dozens of packages missing to complete Packer11, which is the achievement of combined forces within the pkg-go group. Much thanks esp. to Alexandre Viau who have worked on the most of the needed new packages. Thanks also to the FTP masters which were always very quick in reviewing the Go packages, so that it could be proceeded to build and package the sub dependent new ones always consecutively. Squirrel3 I've didn't had the major work of that and just sponsored this for Fabian Wolff, but want to highlight here that there's a new package of Squirrel12 now available in Debian13. Squirrel is a lightweight scripting language, somewhat comparable to Lua. It's fully object-oriented and highly embeddable, it's used in a lot of commerical computer games under the hood for implementing intelligence for bots next to other things14, but also for the Internet of Things (it's embedded in hardware from Electric Imp). Squirrel functions could be called from C++15. I've filed an ITP bug for Squirrel already in 2011 (#651195), but always something else had a higher priority, and it ended up being an RFP. I'm really glad that it got picked up and completed quickly afterwards. misc There were a couple of uploads on updated upstream tarballs and for fixing bugs, namely afl/2.10b-1 and 2.11b-1, python-afl/0.5.3-1, pyutilib/5.3.2-1, pyomo/4.3.11327-1, libvigraimpex/1.10.0+git20160211.167be93dfsg-2 (fix of #820429, thanks to Tobias Frost), and gamera/3.4.2+svn1454-1. For the pkg-go group, I've set up a new package of github-mitchellh-ioprogress (which is needed by the official DigitalOcean CLI tool doctl, now RFP #807956 instead of ITP due to the lack of time, again a lot of missing packages are missing for that), and provided a little patch for dh-make-golang updating some standards16. For Packer I've also updated azure-go-autorest and azure-sdk as team upload (#821938, #821832), but it came out that the project which is currently under heavy development towards a new official release broke a lot in the past weeks (no Git branching have been used), so that Packer as a matter of fact needed a vendored snapshot, although there have been only a couple of commits in between. Docker-registry has the same problem with the new package of azure-sdk/2.1.1~beta1, so that it needed to be fixed, too (#822146). By the way, the tool ratt17 comes very handy for automatically test building down all reverse dependencies, not only for Go packages (thanks to Tianon Gravi for the tip). Finally, I've posted the needed reverse depencies as RFP bugs for Terraform18 (again quite a lot), Vuls19, and cve-dictionary20, which is needed for Vuls. I'll let them rest a while waiting to get picked up before working anything down.

28 April 2016

Michal &#268;iha&#345;: Weblate 2.6

Going back to faster release cycle, Weblate 2.6 has been just released. There is improved support for Python 3 or brand new HTTP REST API. Full list of changes for 2.6: If you are upgrading from older version, please follow our upgrading instructions. You can find more information about Weblate on https://weblate.org, the code is hosted on Github. If you are curious how it looks, you can try it out on demo server. You can login there with demo account using demo password or register your own user. Weblate is also being used https://hosted.weblate.org/ as official translating service for phpMyAdmin, OsmAnd, Aptoide, FreedomBox, Weblate itself and many other projects. Should you be looking for hosting of translations for your project, I'm happy to host them for you or help with setting it up on your infrastructure. Further development of Weblate would not be possible without people providing donations, thanks to everybody who have helped so far! The roadmap for next release is just being prepared, you can influence this by expressing support for individual issues either by comments or by providing bounty for them.

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Holger Levsen: Voctomix available in Debian sid

Yesterday evening CarlFK prodded me to package Voctomix, which is a live video mixer written by the Chaos Communication Congress' Video Operation Crew. It's written in Python using GStreamer and was started when they realised dvswitch was not suitable anymore for them. The DebConf16 video team plans to test it in Cape Town (for covering the BoF room), so I figured I'd help now with packaging the software. Less than 24h after I started, voctomix made it through NEW and is now available in sid and hopefully will be available in stretch soon too! And by DebConf16 it should also finally be available in jessie-backports. Wheeehooo! Thanks to Stefano Rivera who helped me with some dh_python3 detail and the Debian ftpmasters for letting it though NEW so quickly (and btw, for their general awesome work on NEW processing in the last years too!) - may the winkekatze be with you! ;-)

Dirk Eddelbuettel: RcppRedis 0.1.7

A new release of RcppRedis arrived on CRAN today. And just like for the previous release, Russell Pierce contributed a lot of changes via several pull requests which make for more robust operations. In addition, we have started to add support for MessagePack by relying on our recently-announced RcppMsgPack package.
Changes in version 0.1.7 (2016-04-27)
  • Added support for timeout constructor argument (PR #14 by Russell Pierce)
  • Added new commands exists, ltrim, expire and pexpire along with unit tests (PR #16 by Russell Pierce)
  • Return NULL for empty keys in serialized get for consistency with lpop and rpop (also PR #16 by Russell Pierce)
  • Minor corrections to get code and hget and hset documentation (also PR #16 by Russell Pierce)
  • Error conditions are now properly forwarded as R errors (PR #22 by Russell Pierce)
  • Results from Redis commands are now checked for NULL (PR #23 by Russell Pierce)
  • MessagePack encoding can now be used which requires MessagePackage headers of version 1.0 or later; the (optional) RcppMsgPack package can be used.
Courtesy of CRANberries, there is also a diffstat report for the most recent release. More information is on the RcppRedis page.

This post by Dirk Eddelbuettel originated on his Thinking inside the box blog. Please report excessive re-aggregation in third-party for-profit settings.

27 April 2016

Stig Sandbeck Mathisen: Using LLDP on Linux. What's on the other side?

On any given server, or workstation, knowing what is at the other end of the network cable is often very useful. There s a protocol for that: LLDP. This is a link layer protocol, so it is not routed. Each end transmits information about itself periodically. You can typically see the type of equipment, the server or switch name, and the network port name of the other end, although there are lots of other bits of information available, too. This is often used between switches and routers in a server centre, but it is useful to enable on server hardware as well. There are a few different packages available. I ve looked at a few of them available for the RedHat OS family (Red Hat Enterprise Linux, CentOS, ) as well as the Debian OS family (Debian, Ubuntu, ) (Updated 2016-04-29, added more recent information about lldpd, and gathered the switch output at the end.)

ladvd A simple daemon, with no configuration needed. This runs as a privilege-separated daemon, and has a command line control utility. You invoke it with a list of interfaces as command line arguments to restrict the interfaces it should use. ladvd is not available on RedHat, but is available on Debian. Install the ladvd package, and run ladvdc to query the daemon for information.
root@turbotape:~# ladvdc
Capability Codes:
    r - Repeater, B - Bridge, H - Host, R - Router, S - Switch,
    W - WLAN Access Point, C - DOCSIS Device, T - Telephone, O - Other
Device ID        Local Intf Proto Hold-time Capability Port ID
office1-switch23 eno1       LLDP  98        B          42
Even better, it has output that can be parsed for scripting:
root@turbotape:~# ladvdc -b eno1
INTERFACE_0='eno1'
HOSTNAME_0='office1-switch23'
PORTNAME_0='42'
PORTDESCR_0='42'
PROTOCOL_0='LLDP'
ADDR_INET4_0=''
ADDR_INET6_0=''
ADDR_802_0='00:11:22:33:44:55
VLAN_ID_0=''
CAPABILITIES_0='B'
TTL_0='120'
HOLDTIME_0='103'
my new favourite :)

lldpd Another package is lldpd , which is also simple to configure and use. lldpd is not available on RedHat, but it is present on Debian. It features a command line interface, lldpcli , which can show output with different level of detail, and on different formats, as well as configure the running daemon.
root@turbotape:~# lldpcli show neighbors
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LLDP neighbors:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Interface:    eno1, via: LLDP, RID: 1, Time: 0 day, 00:00:59
  Chassis:
    ChassisID:    mac 00:11:22:33:44:55
    SysName:      office1-switch23
    SysDescr:     ProCurve J9280A Switch 2510G-48, revision Y.11.12, ROM N.10.02 (/sw/code/build/cod(cod11))
    Capability:   Bridge, on
  Port:
    PortID:       local 42
    PortDescr:    42
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Among the output formats are json , which is easy to re-use elsewhere.
root@turbotape:~# lldpcli -f json show neighbors
 
  "lldp":  
    "interface":  
      "eno1":  
        "chassis":  
          "office1-switch23":  
            "descr": "ProCurve J9280A Switch 2510G-48, revision Y.11.12, ROM N.10.02 (/sw/code/build/cod(cod11))",
            "id":  
              "type": "mac",
              "value": "00:11:22:33:44:55"
             ,
            "capability":  
              "type": "Bridge",
              "enabled": true
             
           
         ,
        "via": "LLDP",
        "rid": "1",
        "age": "0 day, 00:53:23",
        "port":  
          "descr": "42",
          "id":  
            "type": "local",
            "value": "42"
           
         
       
     
   
 

lldpad A much more featureful LLDP daemon, available for both the Debian and RedHat OS families. This has lots of features, but is less trivial to set up.

Configure lldp for each interface
#!/bin/sh
find /sys/class/net/ -maxdepth 1 -name 'en*'  
    while read device; do
        basename "$device"
    done  
    while read interface; do
         
            lldptool set-lldp -i "$interface" adminStatus=rxtx
            for item in sysName portDesc sysDesc sysCap mngAddr; do
                lldptool set-tlv -i "$interface" -V "$item" enableTx=yes  
                    sed -e "s/^/$item /"
            done
           
            sed -e "s/^/$interface /"
    done

Show LLDP neighbor information
#!/bin/sh
find /sys/class/net/ -maxdepth 1 -name 'en*'  
    while read device; do
        basename "$device"
    done  
    while read interface; do
        printf "%s\n" "$interface"
        ethtool $interface   grep -q 'Link detected: yes'    
            echo "  down"
            echo
            continue
         
        lldptool get-tlv -n -i "$interface"   sed -e "s/^/  /"
        echo
    done
[...]
enp3s0f0
  Chassis ID TLV
    MAC: 01:23:45:67:89:ab
  Port ID TLV
    Local: 588
  Time to Live TLV
    120
  System Name TLV
    site3-row2-rack1
  System Description TLV
    Juniper Networks, Inc. ex2200-48t-4g , version 12.3R12.4 Build date: 2016-01-20 05:03:06 UTC
  System Capabilities TLV
    System capabilities:  Bridge, Router
    Enabled capabilities: Bridge, Router
  Management Address TLV
    IPv4: 10.21.0.40
    Ifindex: 36
    OID: $
  Port Description TLV
    some important server, port 4
  MAC/PHY Configuration Status TLV
    Auto-negotiation supported and enabled
    PMD auto-negotiation capabilities: 0x0001
    MAU type: Unknown [0x0000]
  Link Aggregation TLV
    Aggregation capable
    Currently aggregated
    Aggregated Port ID: 600
  Maximum Frame Size TLV
    9216
  Port VLAN ID TLV
    PVID: 2000
  VLAN Name TLV
    VID 2000: Name bumblebee
  VLAN Name TLV
    VID 2001: Name stumblebee
  VLAN Name TLV
    VID 2002: Name fumblebee
  LLDP-MED Capabilities TLV
    Device Type:  netcon
    Capabilities: LLDP-MED, Network Policy, Location Identification, Extended Power via MDI-PSE
  End of LLDPDU TLV
enp3s0f1
[...]

on the switch side On the switch, it is a bit easier to see what s connected to each interface:

office switch On the switch side, this system looks like:
office1-switch23# show lldp info remote-device
 LLDP Remote Devices Information
  LocalPort   ChassisId                 PortId PortDescr SysName
  --------- + ------------------------- ------ --------- ----------------------
  [...]
  42          22 33 44 55 66 77         eno1   Intel ... turbotape.example.com
  [...]
office1-switch23# show lldp info remote-device 42
 LLDP Remote Device Information Detail
  Local Port   : 42
  ChassisType  : mac-address
  ChassisId    : 00 11 22 33 33 55
  PortType     : interface-name
  PortId       : eno1
  SysName      : turbotape.example.com
  System Descr : Debian GNU/Linux testing (stretch) Linux 4.5.0-1-amd64 #1...
  PortDescr    : Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I217-LM
  System Capabilities Supported  : bridge, router
  System Capabilities Enabled    : bridge, router
  Remote Management Address
     Type    : ipv4
     Address : 192.0.2.93
     Type    : ipv6
     Address : 20 01 0d b8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01
     Type    : all802
     Address : 22 33 44 55 66 77

datacenter switch
ssm@site3-row2-rack1> show lldp neighbors
Local Interface    Parent Interface    Chassis Id          Port info          System Name
[...]
ge-0/0/38.0        ae1.0               01:23:45:67:89:58   Interface   2 as enp3s0f0 server.example.com
ge-1/0/38.0        ae1.0               01:23:45:67:89:58   Interface   3 as enp3s0f1 server.example.com
[...]
ssm@site3-row2-rack1> show lldp neighbors interface ge-0/0/38
LLDP Neighbor Information:
Local Information:
Index: 157 Time to live: 120 Time mark: Fri Apr 29 13:00:19 2016 Age: 24 secs
Local Interface    : ge-0/0/38.0
Parent Interface   : ae1.0
Local Port ID      : 588
Ageout Count       : 0
Neighbour Information:
Chassis type       : Mac address
Chassis ID         : 01:23:45:67:89:58
Port type          : Mac address
Port ID            : 01:23:45:67:89:58
Port description   : Interface   2 as enp3s0f0
System name        : server.example.com
System Description : Linux server.example.com 3.10.0-327.13.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Mar 4
System capabilities
        Supported  : Station Only
        Enabled    : Station Only
Management Info
        Type              : IPv6
        Address           : 2001:0db8:0000:0000:0000:dead:beef:cafe
        Port ID           : 2
        Subtype           : 2
        Interface Subtype : ifIndex(2)
        OID               : 1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.1.2

Joey Hess: my Shuttleworth Foundation flash grant

Six months ago I received a small grant from the Shuttleworth Foundation with no strings attached other than I should write this blog post about it. That was a nice surprise. The main thing that ended up being supported by the grant was work on Propellor, my configuration management system that is configured by writing Haskell code. I made 11 releases of Propellor in the grant period, with some improvements from me, and lots more from other contributors. The biggest feature that I added to Propellor was LetsEncrypt support. More important than features is making Propellor prevent more classes of mistakes, by creative use of the type system. The biggest improvement in this area was type checking the OSes of Propellor properties, so Propellor can reject host configurations that combine eg, Linux-only and FreeBSD-only properties. Turns out that the same groundwork needed for that is also what's needed to get Propellor to do type-level port conflict detection. I have a branch underway that does that, although it's not quite done yet. The grant also funded some of my work on git-annex. My main funding for git-annex doesn't cover development of the git-annex assistant, so the grant filled in that gap, particularly in updating the assistant to support the git-annex v6 repo format. I've very happy to have received this grant, and with the things it enabled me to work on.

Niels Thykier: auto-decrufter in top 5 after 10 months

About 10 months ago, we enabled an auto-decrufter in dak. Then after 3 months it had become the top 11th remover . Today, there are only 3 humans left that have removed more packages than the auto-decrufter impressively enough, one of them is not even an active FTP-master (anymore). The current score board:
 5371 Luca Falavigna
 5121 Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
 4401 Ansgar Burchardt
 3928 DAK's auto-decrufter
 3257 Scott Kitterman
 2225 Joerg Jaspert
 1983 James Troup
 1793 Torsten Werner
 1025 Jeroen van Wolffelaar
  763 Ryan Murray
For comparison, here is the number removals by year for the past 6 years:
 5103 2011
 2765 2012
 3342 2013
 3394 2014
 3766 2015  (1842 removed by auto-decrufter)
 2845 2016  (2086 removed by auto-decrufter)
Which tells us that in 2015, the FTP masters and the decrufter performed on average over 10 removals a day. And by the looks of it, 2016 will surpass that. Of course, the auto-decrufter has a tendency to increase the number of removed items since it is an advocate of remove early, remove often! .:) Data is from https://ftp-master.debian.org/removals-full.txt. Scoreboard computed as:
  grep ftpmaster: removals-full.txt   \
   perl -pe 's/.*ftpmaster:\s+//; s/\]$//;'   \
   sort   uniq -c   sort --numeric --reverse   head -n10
Removals by year computed as:
 grep ftpmaster: removals-full.txt   \
   perl -pe 's/.* (\d 4 ) \d 2 :\d 2 :\d 2 .*/$1/'   uniq -c   tail -n6
(yes, both could be done with fewer commands)
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Michal &#268;iha&#345;: motranslator 1.0

After two months since it's announcement I think it's good time to release 1.0 version of motranslator. This release doesn't bring any major changes, it's more to indicate that the library is stable :-). The motranslator is a translation library used in current phpMyAdmin master (upcoming 4.7.0) with focus on speed and memory usage. It uses Gettext MO files to load the translations. It also comes with testsuite (100% coverage) and basic documentation. Recommended way to install it is using composer from Packagist repository:
composer require phpmyadmin/motranslator
The Debian package will be available probably at point phpMyAdmin 4.7.0 will be out, but if you see need to have it earlier, just let me know.

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26 April 2016

Pau Garcia i Quiles: Is KDE the right place for Thunderbird?

For years, Mozilla has been saying they are no longer focused on Thunderbird and its place is outside of Mozilla. Now it seems they are going to act on what they said: Mozilla seeks new home for e-mail client Thunderbird. The candidates they are exploring are the Software Freedom Conservancy, The Document Foundation, and I expect at least the Apache Software Foundation to be a serious candidate, and Gnome to propose. Some voices in KDE say we should also propose the KDE eV as a candidate hosting organization. What follows is my opinion, not the official opinion of the eV or the board s, or the KDE Community s opinion. Take it with a grain (or more) of salt. I am not so sure. I am trying to think what the KDE eV can offer to Mozilla to be appealing to them and if my analysis is correct, we are too far and Thunderbird would pose many risks to the other projects in KDE. (I am blurring the lines between KDE eV , KDE community , KDE Frameworks , etc as it has no relevance for the discussion) Thunderbird is an open source project/product with a lot of commercial users and has (still has?) many paid contributors. IMHO what Mozilla is looking for is an organization with a well-oiled funding machine, able to campaign for money (even if in a tight circle, something like ours Patron program), and accept and process funds in a way that directly benefits Thunderbird. I e. hiring developers to implement X or Y, or work on some area full-time, or at least, half-time. KDE does not work like that. KDE has few commercial users (other than distros, if you want to count them as commercial users). Other than Blue Systems, I don t think we have any developer working for KDE. Also, the eV is not exactly a well-oiled funding machine. We have been talking about that for years. And we do not hire developers directly to work on X or Y (at most, we pay for part of the expenses of sprints). All of that makes me think we are not the right host for Thunderbird. But it does not stop there! Let s say Thunderbird comes to KDE and suddenly we are offered USD 1 M from several organizations who want to be Patrons of Thunderbird , or influence Thunderbird, or whatever. First problem: do we allow funds to go to a specific project rather than the eV deciding how to distribute them? AFAIK we do not allow that and at least one KDE sub-project has had trouble with that in the past. Then there is the thing about Patrons of Thunderbird : no such thing. Either you are a Patron of KDE, including Plasma Mobile, OwnCloud, and whatnot, or you are nothing. You cannot be a Patron of Partial KDE, namely Thunderbird . Influencing, did I say? The eV is by its own rules not an influencer on KDE s direction, just an entity to provide legal and economic support. Quite the opposite from what Mozilla does today for Thunderbird. Even if funders would not mind all that, there is the huge risk this poses for all the other projects. With as little as USD 200K donated towards Thunderbird (and USD 200K is not much for a product with so many commercial users, which means a healthy ecosystem of companies making money on support, development, etc, and thus donating to somehow influence or be perceived as important players), Thunderbird becomes the most important project in KDE. How would we manage this? In any sensible organization, Thunderbird would become the main focus and all the other KDE projects would be relegated. Even if we decide not to, external PR would make that look like it happened. For all those reasons, I think KDE is not the right place for Thunderbird at the moment. It would require a big change in what the eV can do and how it operates. And that change may be for good but it s not there now and it will not be by the time Mozilla has to decide if KDE is the right place. All that, and I have not even talked about technology and what any sensible Thunderbird customer would think today: what is the medium and long-term roadmap? Migrate Thunderbird users to Kontact/KDE PIM? Port Thunderbird to Qt + KF5, maybe including moving to QtWebEngine? Will Windows support be deteriorated by that change? Or maybe the plan is to cancel KMail and Akregator? Those are second-thoughts, unimportant right now. Update If you want to contribute to the discussion, please join the KDE-Community mailing list.

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