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9 March 2007

MJ Ray: Gov: Links for 2007-03-09

We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to promote the use of Open Document Format within the UK government.
Government documents must be available for tens if not hundreds of years. Currently much electronic documentation is stored in proprietary formats, such as Microsoft's .doc format. In order to allow future generations access to these documents it is imperative that they be in a fully documented standard. Open Document Format (ISO/IEC 26300:2006) is now the international document standard and as such should be supported by the Government.
The Weston Mercury - News: Council chief probe costs 34k
This happened in North Somerset and I remember something similar happening in West Norfolk. When will councillors stop using expensive lawyers to defend themselves at the taxpayers' expense?
opensource - epetition response
Ambivalent reply from the PM's office.
Town and parish councils
Kewstoke is used as a case study, but the link goes nowhere now...
The Irascible Professor-commentary of the day 02-08-07. Movie star teachers.
I've given up watching hero-teacher films. It's really not like that. I guess the oppressive bureaucracy of state education, with pressure from executive teachers to fiddle the student numbers, wouldn't make a good film.
The Irascible Professor-commentary of the day 03-06-07. Why I hope mhy children won't become educators.
Don't let your children grow up to become salesm^Wteachers.
NO2ID:newsletter 66
"Saturday, 10th March - King's Lynn street stall to advertise forthcoming public meeting, from 10am. Volunteers needed! Contact kings.lynn@no2id.net or text/call James on 07778 966395."
Tories want to free (software) Whitehall
The shadow chancellor gets all over the BBC as a result of his party's latest conversion.
Neighbourhood Fix-It
Another better-than-local-councils system from MySociety.
Concerto for blunt instrument: Ode to the No Longer Active
"We held a place for you // But you were busy // You've been so busy lately."

Giacomo Catenazzi: ICANN Factsheet on last DNS root server attack

Yesterday ICANN published an interesting article about last attack of root servers (6 February 2007): see http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-08mar07.htm . The paper is not so detailed and technical as one should expect, anyway it is worth to read it.

It seems that also the remaining root servers should move to anycast. I think this is good, but it will works reliable with TCP? Do someone use TCP to query DNS servers? Why is it not disabled? It seems that all root servers accept TCP ( dig @l.root-servers.net. . NS +tcp).

A side note: as you can see, root servers don't give you yet the IPv6 addresses of root servers. Now they do some test, prior to broke the root server 512-bytes packet rule. We are still away to the full IPv4/IPv6 inter-operative nets.

The last recommendation is: "ISPs should only accept DNS queries from trusted sources (i.e., their own customers) rather than allow anyone to use their servers." . This rule (on recursive queries) is already a well know rule, and I I think it is less problematic of mail-rely (ev. with SPF), but on the other side, we are moving to the point that we should trust our ISP and our ISP will firewall "non-proxied" traffic.

As last point, the fact sheet cite two wikipedia articles. Wikipedia is so good, or there are not better (updated) documentation on the net?

Christian Perrier: JB in UK and EDI

No, not talking about Julien Blache, the wonderful president of Debian France here..:-) My JB, namely Jean-Baptiste, my 19 year old son, is planning to attend a one year Bachelor of engineering term next year, in United Kingdom. From what he told us, he's seriously considering to attend it at the University of South Wales, in Glamorgan. This is great news for me as I think this abroad experience will be a great bonus for him, later, in his professionnal career. You know how parents are, right? I already enjoy in advance stories about life in Wales, the funky accent people have over there and, definitely, how great is that part of the country (I'm a rugby and beer fan, so Wales can only be great). Even funnier, JB will also attend a 2.5 months term between April and July in....Edinburgh, Scotland. So, apparently, I'll be able to see my son during Debconf and probably he'll be able to meet some of you, ladies and gentlemen (if he's not too shy). Even if he's not in computer science studies, that would be good for him to know more about these strange freaks his dad is hanging around yearly. Definitely, I will need to hook up with debian-UK people at some moment, to get hints about all this. Again, we all know how parents are, right? :-)

Edd Dumbill: My preview of the O'Reilly Emerging Technology Conference 2007

I was honoured to be on the ETech 07 programme committee. Alas, I can't get there this year due to the very enjoyable reason of recent parenthood. Nevertheless, here are some of the talks I'd earmarked to attend.
Creating Addictive User Experiences (Kathy Sierra)Is it possible to say too many good things about Kathy Sierra? Any project or product built with attention to her advice about empowering users gets a huge head start to popularity and success. I was fortunate enough to spend a day with Kathy last year on a training course, and it was great to see the passion and commitment from her writing runs through her as a person, even behind the scenes.Applied Web Heresies (Avi Bryant)I'd go to this one out of insatiable curiosity. I believe that web conventions enable rapid application design (c.f. REST in Rails) but here's an argument that not following them also reaps rewards. Attend this talk prepared for involvement. I've never met a Squeaker without attitude.
Making Offline Web Applications a Reality (Zimbra)A short product talk, but taking web apps offline is an area to watch. Even if you don't think offline is that important to you, many of the same principles apply to application mobility. Take that key app data off onto your phone, watch or memory stick.Collective Intelligence, Indeterminacy, and the Illusion of Control (Charles Armstrong)More user-facing stuff. How do you give a user of a large nondeterministic piece of social software the idea that they're in control? This is an important topic to me: note how many pieces of social software fall by the wayside right away. For some, it's lack of utility, but that's influenced too by the degree of engagement and control a user feels.
No Program Left Behind: Liberating TV from the Tyranny of the Ephemeral (Tom Loosemore)There is no good reason not to listen to Tom Loosemore. Especially when he feels strongly about something. The idea of this talk is a "vision of a cheap consumer device sitting under your TV that will capture, store, and share all TV, forever." The TV industry sure needs its visionaries.
Patterns: From Fabrics to Fabrication (Dale Dougherty)Dale was responsible for getting my XML career off the ground, and you can find him at work behind some of the smartest things O'Reilly's done over the years. Make magazine was one of those, and now he's moving on to Craft. Design patterns for, er, real designs.RFID Guardian: A Personal Platform for RFID Privacy Management (Melanie Rieback)
Jamming bad RFIDs. Having just taken delivery of an RFID-enabled passport, this is starting to come home to me.Super Ninja Privacy Techniques for Web App Developers (Marc Hedlund)Despite the cute title, lots of good stuff here. Expectnation is going to end up with a truck load of user registrations, and their privacy is important to me. I imagine there'll be some good debate in the Q&A session for this talk.JavaScript: It's Happening All Over Again! (James A. Duncan)I've recently got the JS bug, thanks to JQuery. It's actually a fun and malleable language to work in. I'd go to this talk looking for fellow travellers and hints, though I'm a bit skeptical about Zimki itself.

David Welton: Tsumobi

I found this to be very interesting: http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/03/09/demo-day-y-combinators-spring-chicks/ Specifically:
Tsumobi Mobile applications have so far been nightmares to implement. It's often hard to gain adoption due to complicated installs and near impossible to get users to upgrade their version once the product has shipped. Tsumobi hopes to solve this problem by creating their own language. The new language will sit on top of J2ME and process applications downloaded (via URL) for Tsumobi enabled sites. This means that developers will be able to change Tsumobi applications on the fly and have Tsumobi enabled phones automatically get the updates just by visiting a link.
That sounds very familiar... Hecl, maybe? On one hand, I'm sort of jealous that someone is getting paid to do something I did for free (and hang out with Paul Graham, to boot). On the other, it certainly validates the idea doesn't it?

John Goerzen: Want to try living in vim

I've been an Emacs user for many years, though of course I know some vi and vim commands out of necessity.

I want to try taking the plunge by spending a month using vim only, no Emacs.

Sadly the vim documentation isn't very helpful for me in a number of areas. I'm hoping someone can point me to some resources or recipes that will help with:


8 March 2007

Joey Hess: embedding debian

Here are some scenarios for ways that I want to use Debian on semi-embedded and embedded devices. So far there's not a good way to accomplish most of these, and each scenario needs at best a different approach, from flashybrid to Embdebian to ADS root builder to hand hacked images. That will change, I hope, if the grand unified scheme I'm plotting comes to fruition. If some of these scenarios interest you, please check out the design at http://wiki.debian.org/RootSync. openmoko First, install Debian to a 2 gb microSD card in the phone, using d-i. Bog-standard Debian install (except for it being g-i running on a cell phone!), standard partitioning. Boot the install and use it for a while. Install more stuff and tweak the system. Now you want to remove that microSD card, to save power. So, unmount it, and remove it. Debian continues running; all the files you normally use, including everything needed to boot the system, have already been copied over to the flash. If the flash gets too full, just delete any files you don't need right now. If you later find you're missing a file, just plug the microSD back in, mount it, and you can access the file again. This is also an easy way to do a backups, a simple command can sync your changes up to the microSD card. Also the microSD card can be plugged into a different openmoko phone, chrooted into, a command run, the phone rebooted, and it's been taken over, now running the same Debian install. Great party trick. ;-) slug with a 32 mb USB stick This is my sister's nslu2 box, that only does one thing, really: Dial up to the internet and route packets to the access point. It's also nice to get Debian security updates from time to time. And I don't want to have a noisy hard drive on it, so it runs from a small USB stick. The initial install is done to USB drive, then I add the USB stick to the picture, boot the nslu2 up, configure ppp, run it, and I can remove the drive, it's ready to run in embedded mode from the USB stick. Later I need to apply a security update, so I plug in the USB drive, mount it, run aptitude, and I'm done, just unmount the USB drive again, and the USB stick now has updated versions of the necessary files. true embedded system development A company is creating a real embedded arm system, it needs to run from 64 mb of flash, with a fair chunk for their own application, and a fair chunk free for user data. An engineer is using his development system to work on creating the jffs2 filesystem that will go on the production hardware. He starts by untarring the Debian armel port to a drive, and copies in the custom application. Then he sets up an empty jffs2 filesystem on mtdblockN. After rebooting the system, the jffs2 contains the files needed to boot Debian on its own. The engineer runs the custom application, and the jffs2 is now ready to run that too. But it's getting a bit tight for space on the jffs2. Time for busybox. He runs "busybox install [long list of busybox commands]", replacing lots of core commands with their smaller busybox versions. After a few reboots, all the init scripts are hacked up to work with the busybox stuff. (Argh.. Debian should work with it by default. Anyone want patches?) Maybe he goes on to run mklibs or do something with uclibc. This might take a few iterations to get right, but he doesn't worry about screwing up the system -- he knows that at any point he can delete all the files on the jffs2, reboot, and be back to his unmodified system on the disk drive. Once everything is ready, he can load the jffs2 onto production hardware and the new embedded system is ready to be tested and qualified. slug thick client My nslu2 box, used for handling some USB devices like my UPS, security camera, etc. When the network is up, and the storage server is up, it can nfs mount root, but that doesn't work when the power goes out and the server needs to come down. I want it to keep working in that case, as a kind of detached thick client. After hacking nfs root support into d-i at some future point :-) I have it booting with nfs root already. There's around 3 mb of unused flash on the slug, so I set up a jffs2 partition using that, and through some trial and error get the right files on there to let the system keep running in a degraded mode when the nfs mount goes down. 3 mb does fill up pretty quickly if the camera notices motion, but it's good enough, so I decide not to put a USB stick on the box.

Jacobo Tarrío Barreiro

From the po-debconf language ranking page: Catalan and Italian defeated; now after Danish! Afterwards, I will rest.

Jacobo Tarrío Barreiro: Climbing positions

From the po-debconf language ranking page: Catalan and Italian defeated; now after Danish! Afterwards, I will rest. (I’m going after the 12th position. Three weeks ago I had fewer than 2800 strings translated. Not bad for a language you didn’t even know existed).

Brett Parker: Of remote controlled aircraft...

Holger, Don't be silly!, of course computers are 100% secure, and they'd (of course) use very stringent access methods to the system... you know, something like telnet with a banner saying "please don't hax0r us, we will trace you and sue you" or something ;)

Jesus Climent: When is the madness going to stop?

From ThisIsLondon After [the so-called ‘uninterruptible autopilot system’] has been activated, the aircraft will be capable of remote digital control from the ground, enabling operators to fly it like a sophisticated model plane, manoeuvring it vertically and laterally. Once triggered, no one on board will be able to deactivate the system. Currently, all autopilots are manually switched on and off at the discretion of pilots. The latest move to combat airline terrorists follows The Mail on Sunday’s disclosure three weeks ago that scientists in Britain and Germany are developing a passenger-monitoring device. This will use tiny cameras linked to specialist computers to record every twitch, blink, facial expression or suspicious movement made on board flights in order to identify potential terrorists. So they want me to fly on a (possibly) remote controled plane with cameras controling every move i make. “Big Brother”, anyone? Seriously, how many people feel this is going too far? How many terrorist threats have we had on board in the last 6 years to justify this measures? Isn’t enough what we have to already go through every time we want to fly? No liquids, no shoes, no soul, no personal life… Pff…

Joey Hess: openmoko and n800

I wonder why I have such a better feeling about the OpenMoko than the Nokia n800. I feel that I know the OpenMoko already just by reading Harald's blog and browsing its wiki. It's a pretty stock arm system, boots with uboot, system in jffs2 flash, interesting interface to the necessarily proprietary cell phone stuff, all the hardware will work with only lightly modified linux kernels and the kdrive X server. Major downside of no wifi, though bluetooth is available, and if there's power, a USB wifi dongle could be used. Afrer putting in a similar amount of time googling for info about the n800, I'm still left in the dark on a number of points. I don't know what the boot loader is, what kernel or X modifications are needed, whether non-free drivers might be needed for some hardware, etc. IIRC the n700 had some issues along those lines. Of course, the reason I care about this stuff is that I can't conceive of owning a linux PDA or cell phone and not putting Debian on it, and I don't mean running Debian in a chroot, which is as far as I've heard of people getting with either the n800 or the n700. The GUI stuff for both these is pretty nice, and would make nice Debian packages. I, however, want to use ion. Note: See discussion for some notes based on feedback.

David Welton: Padova, Italy -> Innsbruck, Austria

It's official! If all goes well, Ilenia and I should be settling in to an appartment in Innsbruck, Austria by April 2nd. She has been hired to work with Andreas Villunger's group, which is a great opportunity for her, and also for me to work on some things that are not yet public... We've got a lot of good friends here in Padova, and not seeing them very regularly will be the hardest part of leaving. However, Innsbruck is only about 4 hours away, and Ilenia managed to find us a place on short notice that has a guest bedroom, so we hope to have lots of visitors!

Junichi Uekawa: cowdancer bug 413912.

It was a bit tough. The question is about 'what file descriptor is safe to use for cowdancer?'.cowdancer is a preloaded library, and will be loaded with all applications under cowdancer control.The answer to this question will depend on the application behavior. The obviously wrong fds to use are 0, 1, and 2 which are standard input/output file descriptors,and people assume many things about them, and that was why 'screen' ./configure script failed to function within cowdancer.Using file descriptor 3 might feel safe, but applications are free to assume 3 is usable and issue, dup2 or close instructions on it.Hmmm...

7 March 2007

Jan Wagner: last weekend on CLT

Reduced the work queue after the nice weekend on CLT, I have some time to write a summary. After 2 years I was able to be there again, cause I blocked the weekend early in my timetable.
The event was organized quite well like it was all the time before. We stayed over night in a gym with round about 100 men and 5 women, really interesting, no more details! :)
The CLT was visited really good and there was many folks at debian booth. The range of questions did vary from rookie to advanced. Anyways … the question when etch will be released did hit us quite often.
The talks I visited was really good and very interesting. I did count 6 talks and one workshop held by debian folks.
The social event was a lot of fun and the buffet was nice. Debian scrounged, supported by team(ix) folks, at the game … the task was, to find linux commands in a text. We got place one, tree and the consolation prize. We found more commands than the organization committee, but we missed “ssh” .. what a blame … ;)
In summary I meet really interesting people, the event was quite well and I got too less spleep. Hopefully see you again there next year. , ,

Russell Coker: features of BMW 5 and 7 series

I was reading the brochure about the BMW 530i Touring (which seems to be the BMW name for what is known as a "Station Wagon" in Australia or an "Estate" in Europe). I looked at the brochure on the "Touring" because I am interested in a Station-Wagon - the Sedan version of the 5 series is almost the same in every way other than size and shape.

Here are some of the interesting features:
Adaptive headlights, they turn in to a corner when the car is cornering (showing where you are about to go instead of showing you the scenery off the road) and the high-beam switches off when an oncoming vehicle is detected.

Head-up display for speed, navigation, and other driver-relevant information.

Park distance control (PDC). Gives audio and visual alerts when you are about to hit something at low speed.

Eight air-bags of which only the necessary ones will inflate in a collision, and the inflation power will be determined by the severity of the collision.

Dynamic stability control (DSC), traction control, corner brake control, and more. Described as "all of the known features of DSC".

Seat-belt pre-tensioners in the rear and pyro-technic tensioners for front seat belts.

Rain sensor that turns on headlights, and optional head-light washers.

According to it's brochure the 7 series has bumpers that regenerate their original shape in collisions of speeds up to 6Km/h and a tire defect indicator. Apart from that there doesn't appear to be much benefit over the 5 series apart from more luxury features.

To get the PDF files from BMW Australia (without following my links which BMW will probably break soon) you have to fill in a form with "contact details". To enter that form you need a browser that works with their javascript (which means not Konqueror) so that you can enter your postcode and be prompted with a list of suburbs that match the post-code. The second-last page of that process allows you to download PDF files and it seems to indicate that your data will not be stored if you don't continue past the stage where you download the PDF files. It would be good if BMW could get smart and make their PDF files as easy to download as Mercedes does.

In terms of safety features it seems that the 7 series offers little over the 5 series. By comparing the brochures it seems to me that the Mercedes S series (as described in my previous blog post) has many more safety features than any BMW. Assuming that the BMW documents are accurate they don't seem to compare well with the Mercedes S class. From a quick search on drive.com.au (the best web site for buying used cars in Australia) it seems that the Mercedes keeps it's value better than the BMW - other people apparently share my opinion of the relative merits of the cars.

In future posts I'll summarise the features of some other cars that I consider interesting.

Jordi Mallach: Cal otada and lunar eclipse in Picamoixons

Last weekend I had great fun during my first cal otada with my Friends in Picamoixons, very near Valls in Tarragona. While it's already a tradition for my friends, this was the first time I went there, after having missed many other opportunities probably due to my overcommitment to triathlon training a few years ago. So on Friday we drove up North to Catalunya, and arrived quite late to Frago's house in the center of the town, where we slept in two packed rooms and the terrace after getting some beers in Dune. Early next morning we met Frago's friends and bought the necessary vegetables and wine for our great lunch, and soon after we were in the middle of some olive field outside Picamoixons, where we prepared a big fire and the cal ots. A cal ot is a special type of onion which grows in the area, which ends up being very long and thin. After cutting part of the green leaves, they are cooked over the flames, which carbonises the first few layers of the onion, but leaves the inner part ready for consumption. After this, you just need to pull from the inner leaves to get rid of the burnt stuff and eat the rest with a delicious and typical sauce for cal ots. So far, so good. What if your group of friends has extended the tradition, allowing for extra fun bits? In our cal otades, after you've peeled the cal ot, you keep the carbonised stuff. It's valuable ammo, which will soon be thrown at others' faces. Trying to remain clean is futile, you soon are covered by sauce and black stuff all over your head and clothes. This was real fun! After eating part of the group went up a mountain to visit an arab tower, which helped me not to get totally drunk before the night. When it got dark, we were all back to our positions around the fire, chatting and listening to varied music, while we waited for the lunar eclipse. The eclipse was impressive, seen from the country side, with absolutely no luminic contamination. My friend Jordi carefully prepared his camera to do a good photograph series of the event, and the results were impressive. When the eclipse was about to be full, it was great to see a miriad of stars appear in the sky, previously hidden by the perfect full moonlight. We were just too lucky that the weather fixed up just on time to have a completely clear sky.



The lunar eclipse, as seen from the Catalan countryside. Pics by Jordi Jover. Many were quite tired by 3 or so, so we started setting up tents and went to sleep by 4. Sunday was a slow day, dedicated to cleaning up our stuff and eating leftovers cooked on a new fire. We were back in Val ncia at 8PM or so and even after showering and cleaning my hair with shampoo, my head still smelled like smoke. Actually, I think it might still smell a tiny bit today. In short, a lovely weekend, which I hope to repeat next year. Too bad the lunar eclipse bit will be missing for quite a few more years. :)

Jordi Mallach: Cal otada and lunar eclipse in Picamoixons

Last weekend I had great fun during my first cal otada with my Friends in Picamoixons, very near Valls in Tarragona. While it's already a tradition for my friends, this was the first time I went there, after having missed many other opportunities probably due to my overcommitment to triathlon training a few years ago. So on Friday we drove up North to Catalunya, and arrived quite late to Frago's house in the center of the town, where we slept in two packed rooms and the terrace after getting some beers in Dune. Early next morning we met Frago's friends and bought the necessary vegetables and wine for our great lunch, and soon after we were in the middle of some olive field outside Picamoixons, where we prepared a big fire and the cal ots. A cal ot is a special type of onion which grows in the area, which ends up being very long and thin. After cutting part of the green leaves, they are cooked over the flames, which carbonises the first few layers of the onion, but leaves the inner part ready for consumption. After this, you just need to pull from the inner leaves to get rid of the burnt stuff and eat the rest with a delicious and typical sauce for cal ots. So far, so good. What if your group of friends has extended the tradition, allowing for extra fun bits? In our cal otades, after you've peeled the cal ot, you keep the carbonised stuff. It's valuable ammo, which will soon be thrown at others' faces. Trying to remain clean is futile, you soon are covered by sauce and black stuff all over your head and clothes. This was real fun! After eating part of the group went up a mountain to visit an arab tower, which helped me not to get totally drunk before the night. When it got dark, we were all back to our positions around the fire, chatting and listening to varied music, while we waited for the lunar eclipse. The eclipse was impressive, seen from the country side, with absolutely no luminic contamination. My friend Jordi carefully prepared his camera to do a good photograph series of the event, and the results were impressive. When the eclipse was about to be full, it was great to see a miriad of stars appear in the sky, previously hidden by the perfect full moonlight. We were just too lucky that the weather fixed up just on time to have a completely clear sky.



The lunar eclipse, as seen from the Catalan countryside. Pics by Jordi Jover. Many were quite tired by 3 or so, so we started setting up tents and went to sleep by 4. Sunday was a slow day, dedicated to cleaning up our stuff and eating leftovers cooked on a new fire. We were back in Val ncia at 8PM or so and even after showering and cleaning my hair with shampoo, my head still smelled like smoke. Actually, I think it might still smell a tiny bit today. In short, a lovely weekend, which I hope to repeat next year. Too bad the lunar eclipse bit will be missing for quite a few more years. :)

Eddy Petrișor: The game Oolite was liberated

Yet another liberated game: Oolite, a clone of Elite.

I am the maintainer of the package; it was introduced as a non-free game in Debian, but a week ago upstream has announced that the game is now relicensed with a dual model licensing with GPL and cc-nc-sa 2.0 (the old license). Also, the change applies retroactively to the 1.65 release while further releases will be licensed GPL only and GPL/cc-nc-sa 3.0 for the code and data, respectively.

I have prepared the packages (oolite 1.65-5 and oolite-data 1.65-2) and Simon Richter agreed to make the honorary upload :-) tomorrow morning.

I hope he doesn't forget to build the packages by passing the '-sa' parameter to dpkg-buildpackage :-) and that these packages will reach Etch just in time for release.


As a bonus to this change, the game will be autobuilt on amd64, too.

(BTW, why isn't there any amd64 buildd in the non-free buildd network? Any technical reason?)

Update: the amd64 build seems that was behind in January when I installed the game on my new laptop. 1.65-4 seems that has been built a month ago, much later than the other arches.

Update: It seems that the package is on a positive trend on popularity: a constant rise in the number of oolite package installations is visible...

Eddy Petrișor: "I forgot the PIN of my card" and what results from that

I forgot the PIN of my card recently, I dug into the "safe place where the PIN is written" and found that ... (let's say) I don't have it there anymore.

I went to the bank determined to reset my PIN and go on with my life. Here is a short version of the dialog:

- Hello. Your ATM has blocked my card. I would like it back.
- Ok, here you have it, but first, please tell my the secret word you wrote on the form when you made the card.
- Of course... [blabla]
- Ok. The card is unblocked, you will be able to use it in about 15 min.
- Well, yes. I would like to reset my PIN number since I forgot it.
- What kind of card do you have?
- Maestro
- I am sorry, for this type of card, we can't reset the PIN number. We will have to make another card.
- I am sorry, I think there is a misunderstanding here. Are you telling me that I have to make another card just because I want to reset my PIN?
- Yes, for this type of card is not possible to reset the PIN. We have to make another one. We don't have the list of PIN numbers for this kind of cards, so we can't reset the PIN.

[That sounds like "for other types of cards, we have the PIN numbers for every card out there listed on a tally sheet, but we don't for the type of card you have", put in another form. Spooky, huh?]

... If you had the PIN you could change it at the ATM, but we can't do that since we don't have the PIN number.

- Didn't you think that resetting the PIN is a feature useful enough to have?
- [here the broken recorder model enters the scene] For your type of card we can't reset he PIN, we will have to....

[more question from my side trying to understand why is it not possible to just ignore the old PIN and overwrite the information on the card were, of course, fruitless]

[after some time, I gave up]
- OK, how much will it take for the new card to be created?
- Two weeks.
- What? Anyway... how much will that cost?
- 7 RON (approx. 2 or 2.5$)
- OK. Can I withdraw now money from my account?
- Yes
- OK, good, at least that. I would like 500RON. Also, I would like to start the card change procedure.
- Of course.
[The guy gives me the money and starts to look into the system to start the "new card" procedure. Before giving me the money, I asked if he needed my ID or something, but I am not sure if he would have had asked me by himself, if I didn't...]
- There is a small problem...
- Oh, really? Let me guess, it is not possible to start the procedure from this sales point and I will have to go to another one...
- Yes. This card was created at the sales point in Calea Doroban ilor, through a corporate contract and I don't have access to that contract from here... Actually, if I think of it... your employer made that card for you, isn't it?
- Yes.
- In that case you will have to go to your employer and ask for a new card...

GREAT!

On the positive side, at least I can withdraw money from my account... OTOH, I didn't ask if having the card with me would be necessary to withdraw money, so I am not sure if, in the case I will have to give the card to my employer, I will be able to get any cash from the bank...

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