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7 May 2007

Michal Čihař: Versioning scheme troubles

Current Gammu versioning scheme confuses people a lot. For some time 1.x.0 versions are stable and 1.x.y are testing. However when somebody sees 1.10.5, he things this is updated version of Gammu 1.10.0. So it's probably time to move to something more obvious starting from next development cycle. To stay as much compatible as possible with current scheme, I thing about minor change - so start testing releases on something like 1.11.90. I thing this is also quite often used (I've seen such versions in PyGTK in past) and nobody will confuse it with patch releases. Or should I switch to something completely different? I currently do not consider 1.11.0-rc1 as I'd like to keep version only numeric.

Jesus Climent: On giving away laptops

After i wrote this entry, I received few comments on my blog from people asking me to send laptops to different parts of the world. Unfortunately I cannot do that. I have one spare laptop which will be taken to Edinburgh for Debconf7 and will be given away to a fellow Debian developer (or prospective developer) in need of such piece of hardware, but it will not be sent by post. My initial call was for a similar action from people with spare hardware which can be given away. Maybe one day I could start my own NGO to send laptops around the world for the needy, but right now that is not the case.

Russell Coker: Five ways SE Linux may surprise you

Frank Mayer of Tresys has written a great article on the techtarget.com site about SE Linux. It seems mostly aimed at managers and novice users and explains how SE Linux isn’t really that difficult to use but is however a foundation technology that is needed for secure systems. Check it out!

6 May 2007

Brett Parker: Oh No! What the hell has happened to Selby?

Been watching the snooker - Selby was playing really quite well yesterday, and started the early session this morning looking promising, he seems to have lost it this evening though, which is a shame - and at 12 to 4 down starting tomorrow, he's got a hell of a lot to make up tomorrow. Higgins isn't playing to his best, but he's being more consistent than Selby, it'll be a hell of a final if they both dig in tomorrow. That is all.

Lars Wirzenius: Random thought: Free Thursday on May 10 at Teerenpeli, Helsinki

Open Tuesday is an attempt to build a regular meeting place for people interested in free software (open source), both technical and business people. The goal is to have an event the first Tuesday every month, and some company or another sponsors it by picking up the bar tab. It's fun. You meet people, and can chat about various things. Unfortunately, it isn't quite regular enough, and the website and mailing list aren't updated reliably enough, or early enough, that an event is happening. It is now Sunday evening, and I still don't know there's an event the day after tomorrow. There doesn't seem to have been one last Tuesday, which is sensible, since the first of May is a big hangover day in Finland; it's also an official holiday. Since it's fun to meet people like that, I am going to see if I can't get a "Free Thursday" event going. This is partly in competition with Open Tuesday, but a friendly kind of competition. I hope Open Tuesday will continue, since it's a different kind of event from Free Thursday. Free Thursday is simply people who want to have a drink with each other. No sponsors, no organization, no prepared talks, no web forums, no web site, just show up and have a good time. You'll have to pay for your own drinks. Free Thursday will happen the second Thursday each month at 18:00. The first event will be Thusday, May 10, at the Teerenpeli bar in Kamppi, Helsinki. In case people want to discuss or announce anything related to Free Thursday, I've set up a mailing list. E-mail free-thursday-subscribe@liw.iki.fi to subscribe, and check the archives if you're not a subscriber. Posting is free to subscribers, everyone else gets moderated; this is for preventing spam, all non-spam will be allowed through. Please come, and please spread the word. Now, if someone will start a "Net Wednesday" event, all will be perfect.

Alastair McKinstry: A Spellcheck is not enough

According to The Irish Times Weekend Supplement, todays recommended viewing includes We Love the Sky at Night, BBC1, 4.45pm
A celebration of the 50-year old astrology program, presented by the peerlesss star-gazer Patrick Moore, and featuring contributions from Jon Culshaw, Richard Branson, Myleene Klass, Charles Kennedy, Brian Blessed, Alex James, Dame Evelyn Glennie, Tim Rice and Arthur C Clarke.
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Alastair McKinstry: The God Delusion, by Richard Dawkins

The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins is an 'Atheism Consciousness-raising book', according to the author. It makes the case for Atheism, saying Atheists should stand up and be counted, and stand against the growing tide (in the U.S. in particular) of irrationality and belief. Although as one of Atheisms most visible proponents Dawkins has 'make converts' to the cause, in this book he is mostly speaking to the converted, presenting the evidence. The book documents the main arguments in favour of God. These are dismissed fairly abruptly; while a lot of pages are taken up going into them, they are probably not a comprehensive list. A book by a theologian or believer would probably be a better source for such a list. Nevertheless, Dawkins as a scientist does consider and list the opposing arguments. As presented however, they are extremely threadbare and easily dismissed. Mostly they are backed up by a willingness for people to take God (and Theology!) seriously: since so many people believe in God, it must be taken seriously, or so the reasoning goes. Not so: the proofs of Gods existence don't stand up and should be dismissed. Dawkins makes the case that we should instead of investigating God, investigate why people believe in God, given the lack of evidence. He gives some good hypotheses in terms of Darwinian thinking: reasons why faith, accepting what your parents said without evidence, has survival benefits, that in other circumstances lead people to believe nonsense stories with faith. Another under-estimated problem is the different definitions people have for 'God' and 'religion'. Most people from a Christian / Judaic background have a habit of framing belief and Religion in terms of the religion they grew up in. They may accept that you have a different God(s), but still view God(s) as something you pray to, that intercede on your behalf, etc. By confusing all the different aspects given to 'God' in the Christian tradition, they think that if you have 'proved' one of them, all the rest follow. If you prove / claim that something created the Universe, and label that God, then, they imply, there must be one overall, kind, monotheistic God, Jesus died on the Cross for your sins, that God will change the laws of physics to suit you (miracles), etc. Not so: all you have done is label something, not proved your religion. Dawkins (rightly) dismisses Buddhism, etc. as 'principles for living' rather than religions for the purposes of this book, and we need to be careful what we call religion, too. Dawkins also makes a good case against Agnosticism. He argues we should be more forthright and say we are Strongly Atheistic rather than Agnostic. Agnosticism was created by Thomas Huxley to explain his beliefs. He defined Athiesm is a positive belief in the lack of God, a proposition for which there is no evidence. He argued that, until we have proof that God does not exist, scientifically correct to consider ourselves 'sceptics' on this matter, and neither believe nor disbelieve in God. This sounds good, however in Science there are huge numbers of theories that in practice we have no evidence for either way that Occams razor mows down for us. We don't claim to be agnostic about them, we simply ignore them until they are actually needed to explain something. Which, given modern science and Darwins explanation of evolution in particular, God no longer is. The later chapters of the book cover whether, despite the lack of evidence, belief in God or Religion is a good thing, whether religion gives a moral purpose and direction to life, and defines a sense of "Good" that Atheists cannot have. For this he goes through the Bible with a disbelieving eye, pointing to the horrors of genocide that it promotes in the Old Testament, etc. He points out that we don't actually use the bible for moral guidance, but instead decide our own morality: we pick examples from the Bible a la carte to defend our choices. We don't decide, as an Old Testament interpretation would put it, that murder of an non-Jew is acceptable; that rape of an enemy is acceptable, that killing non-believers and witches necessary. Instead we pick examples to back up what we've decided already. If you're going to do that, stop pretending the Bible is giving you moral guidance and instead accept that we decide. Dawkins underestimates the social and ethnic aspects of religion. He is overly critical of religion, blaming it for much of the worlds violence, genocides, etc. It would be truer to say that Northern Ireland, etc. are examples of ethic rather than religious strife. "God says so" is just the ultimate argument. But conversely religion is a cohesive element in most societies. I suspect that a cause of the growth of christianity in the U.S. is that its proselytising nature goes out to be inclusive in Americas highly mobile society. When work, etc. causes people and families to move across the continent, they will find a church to welcome them into the community. Its against this background that atheists are the most distrusted minority. Shared beliefs, whatever those beliefs, bring neighbours closer. James Lovelock, (co-creator with Lynn Margulis of the Gaia Hypothesis) proposes that atheists can treat Gaia as an alternative religion, something to celebrate and to give moral direction to life. This I have sympathy with, that life is important, and to be celebrated, but not to be confused with something to be prayed to, or imagine that it is biased towards towards our existence. In these times when people are again using religion as a justification for war, claiming a "clash of civilisations", this is a book worth reading, but beyond deciding whether gods exist we need to understand why people believe. The Darwinian arguments are as Richard Dawkins points out, just a start, but I think more is needed to explain religion. Tags , ,

Russell Coker: permalinks in wordpress, Apache redirection, and other blog stuff

When I first put my new blog online I didn’t think to set the custom permalinks option to avoid having /index.php in all URLs (which wastes a few bytes and looks nasty). So I decided to change to better URLs but unfortunately many people have already bookmarked the bad URLs. I wanted to give a HTTP 301 redirection when someone uses the old index.php version (so that bookmarks get updated) and then redirect to the PHP file. Unfortunately having a redirection from ^/index.php to a version without it and then a local rewrite to include index.php again doesn’t seem to work (any advice would be appreciated). So I put the following in my /etc/wordpress/htaccess file (the location for such things in Debian) so that foo.php is used instead where foo.php is a sym-link to index.php. I’m wondering whether I should file a bug report against the Debian package requesting that a sym-link be in the package to facilitate such things - if it’s not possible to do what I desire without the symlink.
RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /
#RewriteCond % REQUEST_URI  ^/index.php/?(.*$) [NC]
#RewriteRule . /%1 [R=301,L]
RewriteCond % REQUEST_FILENAME  !-f
RewriteCond % REQUEST_FILENAME  !-d
#RewriteRule . /foo.php%1 [L]
RewriteRule . /index.php%1 [L]
Update: I am now using the permalink-redirect plugin (thanks for the tip Method) which solves the problem of the obsolete URLs as well as solving the problem of having two representations of the URL (with and without a trailing slash). I have updated the above htaccess file sample to reflect my new configuration (with the old settings commented out for the benefit of people who don’t want the permalink-redirect plugin). The way Wordpress allows the table prefix to be stored in the MySQL configuration section is very handy. Some time ago I asked for advice on a blog server for multiple users and Wordpress-MU was recommended, but it seems that for most situations where you want multiple blogs the non-MU version of Wordpress will do the job. It seems that the main benefit of Wordpress-MU is that setting up multiple blogs doesn’t require running shell scripts, which for the cases I’m most interested in doesn’t compete with the benefit that the non-MU version has of being packaged in Debian. On the topic of Wordpress in Debian, it’s a pity that none of the plugins are packaged in Debian. I plan to create a repository for plugins and themes that I use if no-one else has started such a repository. I believe that a repository of Debian packages for such things will provide significant benefits to users, including updates for security reasons and having plugins that are known to work (some of the plugins appear to only work on Windows). Also there are a few issues that I would like to improve in Wordpress. One is that the Uncategorised category is selected by default so if I select another category and forget to de-select Uncategorised then it’s a little confusing. Another is that the categories are displayed in the side-bar without mentioning the number of matching posts. The way blogger lists the number of posts per category (and sorts the categories in order) is much more convenient. Also another advantage of blogger is the handling of archives where you can click on a month to see a list of the names of all posts in that month. I’m not about to go back, but it would be nice to have those features. Does anyone have any ideas how to solve these problems?

Evan Prodromou: 15 Flor al CCXV

Today is my one-year blogging anniversary. I started this blog on Journal/15 Flor al CCXIV, kind of trepidatiously and with ambiguous intentions. Now, a year later, I feel much more confident in the format and clear in my purpose. I've varied between an almost maniacally consistent one-post-per-day regimen to a more impressionistic, when-I-feel-like-it once-a-week schedule. I'll admit that I'm happier with the more frequent update schedule; I feel like I deliver more to the reader that way. I think the main thing I've enjoyed from having this blog has been the personal satisfaction in frequent and informal writings on my own schedule and to my own whim. Working with wikis makes a lot of my life about careful collaboration and consensus gathering, and having a place where I can speak out with my own voice on my own thoughts is really refreshing... and addictive. Most of all, I've enjoyed how having this blog has connected me with new people, and with friends I already had, in new and different ways. This year of blogging has been contemporaneous with a deepening of my connection with the Montreal technology community, and I can't help but think there's some causation involved. I think that my blogging is bringing me into a common medium and a common language with a group of people I want to spend time with. I've had some side effects I didn't anticipate, either. My family has started reading this blog, which means they know how I'm doing and what I'm up to more often than when I do once-a-week phone calls. And my more extended family -- aunts, uncles, cousins -- also read regularly. I can only wonder what they think about my complaints over various, say, Scheme module formats, but they seem to like it, too. Even Maj's mother reads it (hi Rita!). I think that m-c's 10 reasons to blog really hold true for me; it's good reading with a year's perspective behind me. I'm looking forward to the next year and what it has in store. tags:

Great day It was actually a great day for a blogiversary. Last night, Maj went out with her friend Sam for Sam's birthday, so this morning Amita June had a very quiet breakfast and then went out to Best Buy to do some shopping. I just bought a Canon MP600 printer, and toner cartridges weren't included in the package, so I had to go buy more. (Later, while configuring the printer, I found the toner packages in the bottom of the box. D'oh!) Amita fell asleep on the way home, so I just dropped her in bed. Maj and I walked through a brisk but sunny Montreal weekend afternoon down to the me dia offices, where Creacamp was already in full swing. There were lots of old friends and new ones, and the offices were light and airy and nicely connected. There was a talk by Guylaine Couture about her painted books, and by Luce Beaulieu about her awesome codesigner business, POSCH. Both really interesting. Of course my favourite talk was Anne-Marie's, about her great video series Music Spins the World (or La musique spin le monde). It's an incredible first-person series about her travel adventures with various rockstars to obscure and dangerous parts of the globe. A-M is becoming quite the rock diva, but I'm glad she's staying down-to-earth about it. You can check her work on 33mag.tv. Tonight I had a great time, too. Alex Roberts and Jon Phillips of Creative Commons are in town for the awesome Libre Graphics Meeting being held at the cole Polytechnique this weekend. The event seems great -- bringing together developers from all the great Open Source/Open Content graphics projects together in one room to talk. Jon and Alex met me and Niko at Concordia to see the Montreal premiere of the Helvetica movie. Helvetica is a great documentary about the history of this ubiquitous, unassuming font that epitomizes the modernist view of typography and design. The movie gives Helvetica a personality all its own, and in the process explicates the history of graphic design over the last fifty year. It also introduces us to a rogue's gallery of design and typography legends, all of whom are amusingly and passionately opinionated about design in general and Helvetica in particular. It has that characteristic of great documentaries: it illuminates the camera obscura of global culture through the pinhole of its narrow subject, a single font. Incredible. After the movie the four of us went to La Banquise, the landmark 24-hour poutine parlour right near my house. Alex and Jon indulged deeply in the local specialty -- they each got poutines with lots of bacon and ground beef -- and we all chatted about San Francisco, Web culture, Creative Commons and the cast of characters that surround it. A great, fun time. tags:

5 May 2007

Alexander Schmehl: Bug #422411

Do you remeber that scene from Star Wars: A new Hope, where Obi Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader finally meeth for their light saber duell? And Vader says: I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete.? Felt a bit like that, when I today filled a rc bug against one of my old application managers packges... *evil grin*

Erich Schubert: OpenSolaris negative publicity

It's scary how much negative publicity a single user can cause for a whole project...90% of the time when I read about OpenSolaris, it's by a highly aggressive troll, also known as the "author" of cdrecord (the term "current upstream maintainer" is probably more appropriate).And it's always the same blah-blah, how much superior Solaris is to Linux.But what is much worse is the way he posts and hist persistence. (I'd link some postings, but they're all in german at Heise). At Heise News, whenever there is a posting related to Linux (e.g. because of Berlin considering a Linux migration, or a posting about ZFS), he reiterates that you shouldn't be using Linux but OpenSolaris. And then flames anybody who again mentions Linux or GNU. Because as we all know, GNU tar is bad, and POSIX tar is the only god...One reason to avoid OpenSolaris is just to keep a distance from him. I'm sure that there are some good things in OpenSolaris, too. And that there are some smart people working on it. But you have to understand: I'd be more willing to setup a FreeBSD, NetBSD or OSX system (or even a windows system) than maybe having to deal with him when I run into some problem where I might need assistance. When doing FL/OSS development, I want a nice community around me, and the part I see of the OpenSolaris community is not very well-behaved.You might want to read this blog posting on Linux and Solaris scalability by DaveM for some comments on similar Solaris FUD. Seems like J.S. isn't the only aggressive advocate who prefers to flame instead of trying to impress with technical issues, professionalism and personality.

David Moreno Garza: To Edinburgh

I just booked and paid my tickets to reach Edinburgh next month and attend DebConf7. I’ll be flying to New York on June, 16th through Delta from MEX. Then, I’ll go over the Atlantic with Flyglobespan, from JFK to Liverpool John Lennon Airport. From there, I’m still not completely sure, but I guess I’ll go by train to Edinburgh. Same way to return, on Sunday 24th, after spending a Saturday night in NYC. There’s a small thing that it’s still worrying me. I got the best deal ever from the US to the UK with Flyglobespan, but their first transatlantic flight will be by the end of May and I’m travelling in the middle of June. So, I’m bit skeptical on the matter. But reaching the UK from the US for only 550 USD, return, was impressive and I took the chance. If I don’t appear on DebConf on Sunday 17th around midday, it’ll be because I’ll be in NYC waiting for some answers from Flyglobespan. Anyway, I just moved and this travel expense was not easy. Actually, I wasn’t considering to attend, but after receiving sponsorship, I reconsidered and well, it couldn’t be possible at all without the support of the DebConf orga team, Gunnar, who lent me the sponsorship money for faster and local moves; my employer who is paying the MEX-JFK-MEX flight, but after all, my beloved fianc e, Raquel, who has been an incredible support for a guy like me (a fat, lazy, farty, stupid, anger-tending dude). I really, couldn’t be the happiest person I am today, without you: I love you, peque :-). Have I mentioned that any Debian friend visiting Mexico City can crash on our apartment? Yes! Just like bubulle’s hotel in Paris! ;-)

4 May 2007

Cord Beermann: private Spamstats April 2007



you see my Spamstats for the time i run an own server for my domain.

The input consists mainly from cord@Wunder-Nett.org that is in existence since mid-1996, and a (tuned) catch all on cord.de.



In 05/2004 i had a big downtime due to broken Harddisk and/or cheap IDE-Cables (which was finally solved in 2006).

In 11/2004 i became Debian-Listmaster, and forwarded the listmaster-mails to my system.

In 08/2005 i stopped forwarding listmaster-Mail and the admin-mail from LUG-OWL and let them drop into a local Mailbox on the specific servers.

In 06/2006 The power supply of my server died, and HaJo had a fitting spare device, so i took it to the local hardware gods (C&M sorry, only Flash) and they put implanted it, they also replaced all Fans (6 of which 4 were stuck) and replaced the IDE-Cables. Now i even could switch on DMA without risking a crash. (Man, 3years of crippled server). As you see, the system is now able to accept even more spam.

In 12/2006 i added greylisting on my server. My 2nd MX currently doesn't do greylisting.


Management-summary: With massive filtering i can keep mail somewhat useable for me.

Evan Prodromou: 14 Flor al CCXV

Tomorrow is my 1-year anniversary for having this blog. I started it with a post on Journal/15 Flor al CCXIV, and tomorrow is the same date, one year later. There's a lot going on on that day, though! First, it's Free Comic Book Day. That means you can walk into any participating comic book store and walk out with a free comic book. Cool! I'm going down to my nearby comics store, the small and cool Millenium. But there are more in the area, so I made a My Maps of Montreal comic book stores participating in Free Comic Book Day. My Maps is pretty boss. Second, tomorrow is the launch of the Design Montr al. Montreal was recently named a UNESCO City of Design, and tomorrow designers in Montreal will be opening their doors to the public. It seems like it should be a pretty fun event, with a wind-up party at the SAT. Cool. I'm going to be going to Creacamp, the new BarCamp-style event we have in Montreal to showcase creative women d'ici. It may be one, two, or three of us coming (Maj and Amita June are still on the fence), but I'm definitely going to come. tags:

Ross Burton: Die Libgnome Die

I just committed to Evince a patch which makes the use of libgnome optional, meaning that Evince is now buildable on a pure GMAE system (obligatory screenshot). As GMAE has GConf and gnome-vfs, and gnome-keyring is trivial enough to leave in, the patch turned out to be quite simple: So the only regressions are that the keyboard accelerators are not saved, there is no session management (until session management lands in GTK+), and if gnome-vfs wants a password you don't get a password dialog. In my opinion only the last regression is actually a problem, and I want to fix that at some point. Thanks to the Evince maintainers for their rapid review! NP: Position Correction, TZU

Gon ri Le Bouder: Svn Build stat

During the last two week I improved the status package for the Debian Game Team. I rewrote it from scratch with mod_perl + Catalyst. It uses a database to store the build reports and It’s able to build packages from more than one repository. It can also use other computers as build host. But there is still tone of things to improve and this is a short TODO list : http://nana.rulezlan.org/svnbuildstat/. Thanks : Glandium for the bug graphs, Rapha l Semeteys and Walid Nouh for there build hosts and the mentors.debian.net guys for the CSS :).

John Goerzen: Jacob Update



That's a picture of Jacob in his "suit", with his soft shoes. Both came from Indiana.

He's been really growing, and is big. He's about 7 months old now, and is a lot of fun to play with.

Sunday was child dedication day at church, and Jacob was dedicated that day, wearing his suit. (Here is an explanation of Mennonite child dedication if you're curious)

We took him to the front of the church (along with another family who also had a newborn). We promised to nurture him as a child from God, said a few words, and then the pastor -- as he always does -- carried Jacob down the sanctuary aisle.

Jacob watched as the pastor introduced him to the congregation. He said "these will be your Sunday School teachers, mentors, and friends." He pointed out Jacob's grandparents. And he said, "These are the pews your Great Grandpa Alvin sat in. If he were here today, I know he'd be proud of you."

After it was over, we went back to our seats, breathed a sigh of relief that Jacob wasn't screaming during the whole thing. And promptly had to take him to the nursery because he started screaming right about then.

Alastair McKinstry: Gliese 581 : Transit tonight ?

Greg Laughlin from UCO Lick pointed out that there is a transit possible of Gliese 581c on May7. Looking at the ephemeris, its at 17:13 UT, though: not very good for those of us in Ireland. Yesterdays Nature (subscription required) shows that someone is going one better:
On 26 April, just three days after the planet's existence was revealed, Dimitar Sasselov of Harvard University began using the small Canadian space telescope MOST (Microvariability and Oscillations of Stars) to observe Gliese 581. Sasselov predicts that, if the geometry is right, his team should see the star dim on 7 May as the planet passes in front of it.
They reckon on 50/1 against a transit, on geometrical grounds. Good luck to them though. The point of all of this is that the current planetary detections of Gliese 581b and 581c are Doppler radial velocity measurements. While they tell us the period, they only give us a lower bound on the mass : 581c is at least 5 Earth masses, but could be much more (its M Sin(i), where i is the inclination relative to us is unknown). We also don't know the radius of the planet : the figure quoted in the news articles to date is just a guess based on 5 Earth masses and current theory. A transit measurement, where the planet passes in front of the star, could answer these questions. But it occurs to be we could get numbers tonight: there is a transit (alignment) of Gliese 581b tonight at 22:40 UT. Much more favourable to those of us in Europe. A transit of GL 581b, the big neighbour of Gl 581c, would tell is that a transit of 581c is likely, and would give us an accurate mass for 581b, and from this, a measure of the inclination. So we could also calculate the mass of 581b. Unfortunately I don't have a photometer or CCD. Anyone else up for it? Clear Skies over Ireland forecast , too ... Tags ,

3 May 2007

Romain Francoise: Xen security (or lack thereof)

Interesting paper by Tavis Ormandy (of Gentoo/Google fame) about the security of various virtualization products; one of the conclusions is that Xen is secure as long as hardware virtualization is not used: Xen's HVM mode uses a QEMU-based emulator to provide emulated devices, and is thus probably vulnerable to QEMU's many security flaws... To make matters worse, this emulator (xen-ioemu) runs in dom0 with ring0 privileges.

I don't use Xen's HVM mode even on hardware that supports it but if I did, I'd be migrating my domains away from it right now. And since QEMU is used in quite a few similar products (KVM, anyone?), this is probably just the start of a long series of headaches.

Gerfried Fuchs: Chumbawamba

Kind reminder right at the start: the Grossstadtgeflüster concert on my birthday is going to happen coming sunday—if you want to celebrate with me or just enjoy nice electro pop, get your tickets now. But this entry is meant to be about another band that I love quite well, Chumbawamba. You most propably have heard some of their songs somewhere, Tubthumping was aired quite well. But I guess many people don't know much about their political background, which makes them even more interesting. Like their Enough is Enough (Kick It Over) which they wrote at the time when the austrian government was put together not by the main voted party but by the second and third, where the second is a rather right winged party, to make people start thinking again. Or their Pass It Along which they put online in a rather genious mp3 remix containing some quite interesting quotes and point of views from some of the "important" people in music business.
Hopefully you'll like their songs (including the other non-album tracks they put online for download) and agree with me that they are worth the support.

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