"Most regulations already mandate that. This requirement conflicts with how performant are low temperature heating systems, as most solar ones... so, to be safe, they're less efficient."Joe Buck commented:
"If you have small children, and set your hot water heater at 60C, expect to take them to the hospital with second-degree burns on a regular basis."Even if it was 60C at a tap, it will still take 6 seconds to burn, according to Burn Safety: Hot Water Temperature, but I was talking about storage tanks, not a water heater. Sorry if that was unclear. After running around the house floors and walls to get to a tap from the storage tanks, it's never going to be at 60C unless your pipes are super-insulated or your water flow is very fast (unlikely, as most tank-fed systems won't have much head).
"50C water temperature? Quite a bad idea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legionella"which is confirmed by Legionella at Reliance Worldwide with the advice:
"Keep stored hot water above 60C"Thanks for the info! If someone has a livejournal account, can you let the original poster know, please? etbe: fluorescent lights and why it's worth saving resources mentions dimmers, but I've written about dimmable flourescents before (summary: only 110V have traditional dimmers, but there are integrated-controller ones in Europe and specialist bulbs ) Lars Wirzenius: Energy meter is a good idea. I've also seen clamp-meters which mean you avoid unplugging, but they're much more expensive.
"Did you know that the Councils in the area that used to be Avon want to know what you think about how they should spend our money to deal with our rubbish? They've got together and produced a plan for the West of England and want your views by Friday March 23rd. North Somerset Friends of the Earth think this consultation is rubbish because it's been badly publicised (did you know about it?) and it seems the Councils have already made up their minds. Their plan accepts that the only way to reduce the amount of waste going to landfill is to dispose of it by burning it or digesting it biologically rather then by promoting the "3Rs", Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. Their plan describes seven types of treatment facility and then prioritises them with pyrolysis/gasification and burning (sorry "Energy from Waste") as their favourites. Call that choice??!!"Read more at GoWeston
You Are 40% Nerdy |
You’re a little nerdy, but no one would ever call you a nerd. You sometimes get into nerdy things, but only after they’ve become a part of mainstream culture. |
You Are 20% Nerdy You are definitely not nerdy - in fact, you probably don't know any nerds. You probably care a little too much about your image. No one will know if you secretly watch Star Trek reruns! How Nerdy Are You?I think most of my few points are linked to debian development... this is partly why the idea of more "social conformance" testing for new maintainers worries me. It could mean I'll always stand out like a bizarre blue-haired hacker.
I think the best thing is to point to my FDL page rather than repeat the argument here.""I'll join FSFE when they stop promoting non-free-software like the notorious FDL."This is not something which I have heard of before; could you possibly expand a little on this?"
"I don't think this is appropriate, or wise. Further, it makes me want to not support FSF Europe."Pretty early on, FSFE's Jonas Oberg wrote:
"Actually, this is news to all of us. [...] if there's no way to liberate the hardware before sending it out, we might well have to withdraw those prizes from the raffle to avoid sending non-free software to anyone."but the flamefest continues unabated. As is sadly common on free software-related lists, the moderators have not stepped in with the fire blankets yet. (Some also found it worth reposting old lies about debian, which drew me onto the list to rebut them. sigh Way to go FSF fans.) Aside: Savannah has suffered a hardware failure in case you were wondering where cvs.savannah.* went.
"That line 754 came across pretty horrible, TBH. I didn't have much time to think my reply through, and it shows. What I wanted to say is that for the bits the NMs are actually involved in (ID check, T&S, P&P, etc), P&P is what takes up the most time. Waiting for an AM, waiting for the FD to check the report, and waiting for the DAM to figure it out and say "okay" all does, indeed, take much longer than that, on average."I still don't understand how this matches the NM statistics that show the AM processing step (which includes ID check, T&S and P&P IIRC) has a shorter median than waiting for DAM. Waiting for DAM is what often takes up most time. During the audience discussion, I was told by a 2007 DD that they spent a year waiting for DAM, just like I did back in 2002. (I also was re-tested about free software while seeing NMs with very questionable philosophies get fast-tracked past me - I don't know if those still happen.) NM is still broken, but it's somehow not a campaign topic in this year's DPL election AFAICS. Elsewhere, gustavo posted that his no-show was because he was in a car crash - I think that's a fair reason for missing the debate. I'll hop on IRC after 1400 and see if I can record his answers.
"A technical solution to a social problem - a cron job that will send the email every two months, 6 text files with a template saying that nothing has been done and I just need to remember to write something good into those files before they are sent."I like that idea! A few technical questions brought some interesting reminders about work that is actually already underway, but maybe not very visible, then there was a question about other distributions. Predictably, most of the focus fell on Utnubu and other derivatives, with a few mentions of Gentoo too. The targetted questions brought a few amusing replies: at least one candidate seems to say that they won't pursue a past comment if elected, while Anthony Towns seems to see the new FDL and CC licences and GPL'd Java as personal achievements. The cage fight (or open discussion, as it is more usually known) spent most of its time emphasising and clarifying points from earlier. It only seemed to be at the end when it cut new ground, with questions about demographics and $10million. Finally, closing summaries again showed the differences of approaches and views. Then that was that and the participants logged off into the night...
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