Search Results: "spa"

2 November 2005

Uwe Hermann: Gobby - a collaborative text editor

Gobby screenshot I have heard of Gobby many times now, but when Daniel Stone blogged about it today, I finally decided to give it a try. For those who don't yet know what I'm talking about:
Gobby is a free collaborative editor based on libobby, a library which provides synced document buffers. It supports multiple documents in one session and a multi-user chat. It runs on Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X, Linux and other Unix-like platforms.
One apt-get install gobby later, I was astounded as to how mature it already feels. I think Gobby will be of great benefit when taking notes during conferences, talks and so on. It could also prove invaluable as a pair programming tool. Anyways, I already hear you crying "but SubEthaEdit has been doing this for ages", which is true. But: There you have it. (via Daniel Stone)

1 November 2005

Julien Danjou: About RedHat and Xen inclusion in the Linux kernel

Yeah, according to eWeek, RedHat wants Xen to be part of the Linux kernel. My point of view, if anybody cares, is that it's a good point for us. Virtualization (or supervision, call it as you want to) is a new battle coming in our little world.
Why? Because it's the new easy way to secure and handle big and/or complex information system infrastructure and architecture in a cheaper way. No more need of many boxes dedicated to one job, just a few, and run as many as you want different OS and isolate them. The second argument is the possibility to manage workload flows, migrate then, freeze them and so on, in a transparent way. That's why virtualization is great and powerful in some way and because you will love it. Yeah, I confess, I love Xen, because it works. And finally, we don't want Microsoft to have this argument on its side only. ;-)

Gunnar Wolf: Lateness, angst, addiction - Trying to get hold of my life

This is by far the most stressful long period I can remember in my life. I was quite in control of things approximately until around June. Since then, things have been falling over me in a quick and heavy sucession - First of all, being co-organizer at Debconf was quite hard. I had run conferences before, but nothing ever like this - And, I should add, I never had a German boss running the show. [friend="Stockholm"], as a project leader, you really rule... But whoever works with you should be warned: It is not easy.
Gunnar's Rule of Future Life No. 2: It's easier to be the coordinator (remember I was officially the Tyrant for three years at CONSOL? :) ) than to be in the immediately subordinate team.
Back home, I expected the regular post-vacation rush, so having a hard August -trying to make everything on time- was expectable and OK. I don't remember exactly what projects was I in during August/September (I remember some minor stuff, but I think adding it all together was the mistake). There is one thing I did, though: Accepting way too many invitations as a speaker, at least one every two weeks. And, as many of you know, you cannot just travel somewhere and keep working - When I am at a conference, I want to get to talk with the people there, I want to know what are they interested in (why they invited me in the first place), and make friends with them. But this time it was (as it happens every year - Why are most conferences stuck together September-November?) just way too much.
Gunnar's Rule of Future Life No. 2: Be careful on what you accept. It's easy saying "yes" to a conference. It's hard keeping sanity afterwards.
Ok... I have been going places. For example, two weeks ago I was to San Luis Potos . Instead of staying there for two days, I left my office at 7PM, took the metro to the bus station, got the bus at 9PM, arrived at 2AM, went to my hotel, woke up at 7:30AM, had breakfast, coded for ~1hr, went to the conference theater, delivered my talk at 11AM, went for a quick lunch (which became a takeaway order) at 1:15PM, got on my bus at 2PM, arrived back in Mexico City at 7PM, got to a (fucking long) meeting at 8PM, left the meeting at 12AM, and finally got back home at 1AM. Fun, huh?
Gunnar's Rule of Future Life No. 3: Yes, it's fun to travel. It is much more fun to travel when you actually get to know the place!
...And pressure has not given way. As soon as I finish with one project, there is another one demanding my attention right away. October has been more than hectic. I had to cancel two invitations (on which I was to go to two cities each time) I was quite looking forward to, in Peru - I am very sorry, friends at Lima, Moquegua, Tacna and Arequipa... But I won't make it there this year. I am specially frustrated by not being able to make it to Concladeb in Arequipa - I really want to see DebianPeru/DebianArequipa's good work! And I am specially sorry on canceling today my trip to Moquegua, after they had already booked (and paid) for the tickets... It seems the money will not be lost after all, but I was such a pain in the ass for them, it is not fair I am cancelling... But anyway.
Gunnar's Rule of Future Life No. 4: Remember to learn from past experiences - It feels incredibly as a deja-vu from last year.
I hope I am not spoiling any surprises: Today, instead of blogging, I am supposed to be setting up the Comas server for Debconf6. Even with all of my worries, yes, I am still determined to be the man behind the show for Debconf. It will be in Oaxtepec, don't worry, and it will be a huge success. So let me finish this post quick, and it will be sooner you can register for it ;-) There are still too many points to work on Comas, though. I am setting up a tweaked version, against my will, but with the commitment to fix it transparently and soon. Oh... Yes, and I still have to coordinate with the locals here, as it's taking forever for us to open the fscking bank account so we can start receiving funds and paying money. Did I mention Debconf would be in Mexico? Ok, I will do my best not to make lateness the norm.
Gunnar's Rule of Future Life No. 5: Try not to bore your audience with too many details. Remember you have to work, and somebody might complain you lose too much time blogging!
But before I leave you alone: You might ask why do I mention the addiction in my post title... Well, because I have started treating my main addiction. It is really not easy, and I don't ever want to know what is it like to have a chemical addiction, like people who abuse drugs. If you have seen me face to face, it should be obvious: I have a very strong addiction to food. For one month already, I have been as conscious as I can every time I open my mouth - And, yes, it was not just three times a day. I have made some advances (sorry, I cannot really measure it, as home scales make it only to 120kg). Today is a big day for me: I was admitted in a pilot obesity control follow-up treatment at my University's sports health direction. I am very happy about this, as I do need mentoring and hand-holding. This is a seriously difficult process to follow, and I really hope to carry it thoroughly. Fortunately, my health has been perfect until now - But I cannot abuse myself forever.

Adeodato Sim : A real real game

I have a simple and fun game for you:
  1. Enter #debian-devel.
  2. Pick a random Spanish developer, e.g. “jordi”.
  3. Write their nick, a colon, a space, and the word “Leonor”.
  4. Watch them explode.
NP: Luis Eduardo Aute, No es en vano

31 October 2005

MJ Ray: October oddities

Tomorrow (1 November), there's a protest against the Norwich Northern Distributor Road (N25) taking place in... Ely... which seems to be where the powers that be decided is a good place for the public examination of the east of England plan. It would make too much sense to hold it in any of the main cities, wouldn't it? On the plus side, Ely is a main railway junction, so maybe people will turn out despite the terrible roads to it.
"* poof... Clippie appears * It looks like you're trying to type a job advertisement. Shall I ..."
-- darsh, replying on-list to the day's third spam
"H5N1 BIRD FLU BELIEVED TO BE FIRST VIRUS UNABLE TO SPREAD THROUGH MICROSOFT OUTLOOK Researchers Shocked to Finally Find Virus That Email App Doesn't Like"
-- Mock news release forwarded to ALUG by Tony

Uwe Hermann: Watch the stars with Stellarium

Stellarium screenshot It's late at night, so what else could I do than watch the stars? Of course, as I am such a moron geek, I don't just look out of the window — I use GPL'd software to watch the stars.
apt-get install stellarium

30 October 2005

Uwe Hermann: It's here

My video iPod Don't ask me why, but my video iPod has unexpectedly arrived yesterday instead of sometime next week as I was told. But hey, who am I to complain? Quick notes: No time for blogging, must play with iPod...

29 October 2005

Erich Schubert: Debian booth at the Systems

Debian again hat a booth at the "Systems" fair in Munich. This is mostly a B2B fair, and the focus is on "ready to use" products. So there are few new product announcements happening here, and not this big audience as of IFA or CeBIT. Still it is an important fair for the medium and small sized businesses. Noone expects a PSP to be introduced there... I staffed the booth on tuesday morning, and I intended to staff it on Friday morning, too (but was unable to do so). We were rather few people this year; also the organizational contribution of Jens (who died this summer) was missed a lot. Thanks to Michael Banck for organizing most things, and to all the other contributors such as Michael Ablassmeier and Simon Richter. See Michael Bancks blog posting for a complete list. Thanks also to e.g. the wikipedia staff, who managed to staff our booth for a few minutes while I went to the entrance to give Simon a free pass. Tuesday morning was rather quiet, few people coming by, most of which are either already happy Debian users or at least know of it. Few donations, albeit the few LinuxTag DVDs left were gone (for a donation of at least 2 Euro) by noon. While I remember people asking all the time about the pretty posters with Ayo's artwork last year, and we had a bigger stock of them this time, noone asked while I was there. So on overall, I don't think it paid off for the project. :-( A couple of people had technical questions which I was usually able to give the relevant pointers for solving them. The recurring question "when is sarge going to be released" was obviously not an issue any more; one guy asked when etch was going to be released and I was able to quickly pull out the announcement by the release team with the end-of-2006 schedule. I was rather disappointed with the few people coming by, but probably tuesday morning was a rather unrepresentative time. The only two "important" conversations I had there was with someone from a PHP magazine who are interested in including a Sarge+PHP5+MySQL5 CD with an upcoming issue (I can't do that, I hope they'll find someone else to prepare the CD for them!) and with the people from LiMux (the upcoming linux switch of the city of munich) which sounded (to me) much like the current delay of the project is mostly due to management issues than due to Debian/GNU/Linux lacking some features. They couldn't really tell me what the Debian project could do to support LiMux. Debian being used for LiMux is something I'm really looking forward to, and I would have loved to see a demo of it at the Systems, but apparently the project isn't that far yet. :-( I didn't see much of the Systems otherwise - I had to hurry back to the university when I left the booth, so I didn't visit any other booth. The last few times it wasn't too interesting for me anyway, since none of the products (except the OSS projects) is targeted at my audience obviously. And I'm not the type to walk around to collect as many free CDs and ball pens as possible. I remember that last year you could have your face "imprinted" in a block of transparent resin with small bubbles or so; no idea if that was free or at a low charge, though. You used to get popcorn and such stuff at a couple of booths etc. - and a lot more of such stuff back in DotCom times - but it never interested me too much. And last year I think a conference hotel had the booth opposite of us and gave away free beer... anyway, I didn't even check if the LiMux booth maybe had one of these nice munich-penguin pins... I had considered to walk around and ask for sponsorship at a coupld of places for some projects I'm invovled in, but I don't think I'm good at that anyway... So my feelings are rather mixed. I really hope we'll have more people for the booth next year, because I'll not be available then: I'll hopefully be in finishing my diploma thesis by then.

Michael Banck: 29 Oct 2005

Systems 2005 Another year, another Systems. This year, however, sadly the first time without Jens, so organization was harder than usual. C&L again provided an Open Source area where we had a booth along with GNOME, KDE, the several BSDs, PostgreSQL and some smaller Open Source projects. As we were not able to build up the booth on Sunday already, there was only a pretty bad location left on Monday, facing towards the wall. Roland Stigge provided a huge 1,5 by 1,5 metre Debian swirl banner, which we mounted in the vicinity of the (too small for that) booth. Michael Ablassmeier brought a Shuttle PC and a TFT display so we could show visitors around the Debian desktop and point them towards further information on the internet. Credativ again kindly shipped posters and flyers. We sold the former and distributed the latter to passing visitors. Unfortunately, Credativ did not receive any LinuxTag DVDs this year, and we were unable to obtain some from other people (apparently they are spared for LinuxWorldExpo in Frankfurt next month, though most visitors there should know Debian already I guess), so we only had about 30 DVDs, which were left from the pack I took back from LinuxTag myself. We sold those for 2 EUR, and later distributed some shiny new Breezy CDs the GNOME booth acquired on Thursday and had some Sarge CDs pressed at a nearby CD production booth which we sold for 2 EUR as well. After some initial doubts on whether we would be able to properly man the booth, it turned out that the local Debian community was enough to guarantee presence except for Friday morning. Michael Ablassmeier, Erich Schubert, Simon Richter, Roland Stigge and Rene Engelhard manned the booth besides me. So we were in the fortunate position that we had two people at the booth most of the time while shuffling around personnel, while most other booths were operated by the same one or two people throughout the week. This year, almost all people I asked (I usually offered a flyer and asked "Do you know Debian already?" to all passing visitors, unless they quickly tried to run through our territory) knew about Debian at least somewhat, and surprisingly many people said they had Debian installed and were happy with it. Thanks to the Sarge release and the almost-official amd64 archive (the respective lack of which were by far the most prominent questions last year), we had almost no recurring questions to answer; probably the most frequent question was about Ubuntu and our relationship with it, but those were pretty scarce and I expected much more of that. Likewise, only very few people were unhappy about Debian (far outweighed by the happy bunch), and most of that seemed to be due to specific technical issues rather than any general reservations about the Debian development or community processes. Most of the remaining questions were pretty specific, e.g. people having issues installing Debian on their hardware or trying to do some exotic stuff. To summarize, it was a nice having a booth again and getting in touch with visitors and users. I did not see much else of Systems this year due to being busy with university as well, but I do not think it would have been worth it anyway. Murray Cumming and Joerg Kress (who were managing the GNOME booth) helped me dismantle the booth and carry back the hardware and leftovers on Friday evening and we decided to have dinner together at a nice pub in Munich.

28 October 2005

Erich Schubert: Gmail issues

With all the hype that was around it, I got myself a GMail account some time ago, when they were rather "rare". While the UI is still very good for a webmail, it has also a lot of things I do not like. I don't use it heavily - not for personal emails, but only to recieve some mailing lists I don't want to clutter my regular mail (and there are no privacy issues there... Google will index them in the list archives anyway), and to recieve some off-site notifications by some servers (it's always better to get warning emails etc. off-site so you can still access them when the site is down... oh, and if you have an email relay, try to setup a direct transport for your email, so it works if there is something wrong with your email relay, too!) My top issues with gmail are: I used gmails feedback function before, but didn't get any reply.

Per-Arne Hellarvik: OK...I know I'm smart...But this was fun..

All-Around Awesome


You have:
77% SCIENTIFIC INTUITION and
77% EMOTIONAL INTUITION
The graph on the right represents your place in Intuition 2-Space. As you can see, you scored well above average on emotional intuition and well above average on scientific intuition. (Weirdly, your emotional and scientific intuitions are equally strong.)


Your Emotional Intuition
score is a measure of how well you understand people, especially their
unspoken needs and sympathies. A high score score usually indicates
social grace and persuasiveness. A low score usually means you're good
at Quake.

Your Scientific Intuition
score tells you how in tune you are with the world around you; how well
you understand your physical and intellectual environment. People with
high scores here are apt to succeed in business and, of course, the
sciences.



Try my other test!
The 3 Variable Funny Test
It rules.






My test tracked 2 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:
free online datingfree online dating
You scored higher than 80% on Scientific
free online datingfree online dating
You scored higher than 82% on Interpersonal
Link: The 2-Variable Intuition Test written by jason_bateman on Ok Cupid, home of the 32-Type Dating Test

Gunnar Wolf: Yet Another Meme

Nice one, Mike! I would have liked to end up being more humane, though ;-)



  
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
  

      Much More Scientific

      

You have:
77% SCIENTIFIC INTUITION and
47% EMOTIONAL INTUITION

    

      
The graph on the right represents your place in Intuition 2-Space. As you can see, you scored about average on emotional intuition and well above average on scientific intuition.Keep
in mind that very few people score high on both! In effect, you can
compare your two intuition scores with each other to learn what kind of
intuition you're best at. Your scientific intuition is stronger than
your emotional intuition.


Your Emotional Intuition
score is a measure of how well you understand people, especially their
unspoken needs and sympathies. A high score score usually indicates
social grace and persuasiveness. A low score usually means you're good
at Quake.

Your Scientific Intuition
score tells you how in tune you are with the world around you; how well
you understand your physical and intellectual environment. People with
high scores here are apt to succeed in business and, of course, the
sciences.



Try my other test!
The 3 Variable  Funny Test
It rules.




    

      
    










  



   My test tracked 2 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:
free online datingfree online dating
You scored higher than 80% on Scientific
free online datingfree online dating
You scored higher than 7% on Interpersonal


  


Link: The 2-Variable Intuition Test written by jason_bateman on Ok Cupid, home of the 32-Type Dating Test

Clint Adams: Plots against plots

Joey, in a hilarious exposition about thread patterns, mentions k00ks, which reminds me of movie adaptations. Every time good books get turned into movies or things one seems to call miniseries even when they aren't, deep, thoughtful critical analysis sparks discussions that I am somehow forced to endure. Oh my god, that was so wrong. The book was very specific about how many steps there were, and Peter Jackson just went and changed it for no reason. There was a book? That was good. It was exactly like the movie. No, it wasn't. The book didn't have Dumbledore crossdressing, Hermione being a dirty little slut, and Harry sodomizing Hagrid and all the animals. Well, it had the same feel. What you have to do is not think of it as having anything to do with the book. Then you might enjoy it. It's a movie. Enjoy the movie. It's a movie. I can't believe they didn't do anything about Sunny's teeth. It's like Even Cowgirls Get The Blues, only botched in the opposite way. Then there's the fun game of sitting around and arguing about which adaptation of Dune is the worst: some version of the movie, or the SCI Fi Channel miniseries. Who ever thought that hats would enter into a discussion like that? Not I. I still have some hope for the 18-hour Italian version featuring Salvador Dali, assuming they can resurrect Dali and start making the movie again. Speaking of the SCI Fi Channel and their high-quality programming, I made the mistake of watching Legend of Earthsea, a miniseries with two whole parts. Don't worry about this movie wrecking the books for you; it bears little resemblance to the Earthsea books by Ursula K. LeGuin. Apparently Ursula noticed this too, because she complained about the adaptation. It looks to me that she's being far too kind. My guess is that they took a a few of the books, ripped out some random pages, shuffled them, and gave them to the people who made the BeastMaster TV show, with instructions that didn't make sense in any language. The best part of this miniseries for me was the point at which I was screaming at the guy on the screen (who was obviously a Hampshire student at some point) to go back and get his hackeysack. Now I read that they're going to take religion out of the His Dark Materials adaptation. As Kaki would say histrionically, Kill me now.

Mike Hommey: The 2-Variable Intuition Test

Very Well-Rounded You have:
62% SCIENTIFIC INTUITION and
62% EMOTIONAL INTUITION
The graph on the right represents your place in Intuition 2-Space. As you can see, you scored above average on emotional intuition and above average on scientific intuition. (Weirdly, your emotional and scientific intuitions are equally strong.)
Your Emotional Intuition score is a measure of how well you understand people, especially their unspoken needs and sympathies. A high score score usually indicates social grace and persuasiveness. A low score usually means you’re good at Quake. Your Scientific Intuition score tells you how in tune you are with the world around you; how well you understand your physical and intellectual environment. People with high scores here are apt to succeed in business and, of course, the sciences.


Try my other test!
The 3 Variable Funny Test
It rules.

My test tracked 2 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:
free online dating free online dating
You scored higher than 30% on Scientific
free online dating free online dating
You scored higher than 36% on Interpersonal
Link: The 2-Variable Intuition Test written by jason_bateman on Ok Cupid, home of the 32-Type Dating Test

MJ Ray: Alug web site development

ALUG had a kit-meet last Sunday and there's some description of what happened on the mailing list. A week or two ago, there was some discussion about improving the ALUG wiki. I think it was broken while trying to cure the repeated spam attacks while I was abroad in the summer. The immediate problem has been fixed now and there was an offer of renovation, which I'm trying to take up. Around the same time, I outlined some planned improvements for the main site which are described on their own page now. The release announcement provoked a typical discussion about how the site needs rewriting to do things it already does. :-/ I hate it when that happens. All the world's a webmaster these days. One practical improvement idea and one good suggestion so far, too, so maybe it's worth it :-) A retheme competition was started at Brett Parker's web site, and there's a later version of my entry too.

NOKUBI Takatsugu: xpkg - ipkg cross build framework

I treid to use X/Qt 2 on Zaurus. So I need to build many binary packages from CVS HEAD. X/Qt has a good cross build framework, named xpkg. It looks like Portage or ports/pkgsrc but be specific for cross build. By the way, I got too many writeback spam, so I installed anti-spam plugin, but it seems to shut all writbacks out... X-)

27 October 2005

Jesus Climent: Board Games. Dspam package. Music (and a rant).

board games Bought myself the European version of "Ticket to ride" in preparation for the winter to come. Also, some Carcassonne updates ("The dragon and the princess" and "The count") since i believe i have all the rest. Maybe i should also get "The city", but it is a standalone game, so i need to read some reports. dspam Dspam is back. We have a coordinated effort to get it out in less than a week. I had a package more or less ready, but since two non-developers are working on it, too, i stepped out and right now i am more an observer than an active packager, while i clean (read janitor) some things from time to time. Also, too much work is keeping me from doing other Debian stuff, including coordination of DC6. music I have recently discovered beatport.com. I have refused to access it before, due to its Flash (yep, chilling effect) interface. It is crack for the following reasons: So, please, beatport, if you are out there and listen to your users, do something about it. However, the music selection they have rocks (even if it is crappy electronic music).

Joey Hess: thread patterns

Here's how to subscribe to mailing lists with a combined total posts of 2000 or more per day, and live. It's all about pattern recognition. Threaded mail readers such as mutt sort emails into a tree based on which emails are replies to other emails. The mail index displays this tree of messages with the author of each indicated. Since the Subject field rarely changes, mutt does not display it unless the thread's subject changes. Combining these elements of author names, thread trees, and occasional subject changes produces patterns that the brain can use to quickly identify important and useless sets of mail messages, without actually reading anything, and without resorting to complicated and fragile killfile and scoring systems. Some patterns are very simple. For example, this is the "take it to private email" pattern. This pattern can be thread-killed on sight; if you're feeling generous, read the last two messages in the thread.
bob    +-> Foo
fred     +->
bob        +->
fred         +->
bob            +->
fred             +->
bob                +->
fred                 +->
bob                    +->
fred                     +->
This is the "think before you post" pattern.
bob    +-> Foo
bob      +->
This is the "blindingly obvious answer" pattern. If you're bored you can read any one message to get the gist. Sometimes many of the replies will be worth reading to get a broad overview of all possible responses to a given obvious question. Most times not.
bob    +-> Foo?
fred     +->
alice    +->
george   +->
nancy    +->
steven   +->
nick     +->
Here's a deceptively simple pattern, the "uninteresting message". It might be worth checking the post date to make sure that it's not just the beginning of one of the above patterns of course. And if you're feeling generous, you can read some small fraction of them.
bob    +-> Foo?
This might be a worthwhile thread. Notably because it's short, has a reasonable mix of participants, and seems to come to some kind of conclusion.
bob    +-> Foo
fred     +->
alice      +->
bob          +->
george         +->
bob              +->
nancy    +->
fred       +->
And here's a transformation of that same thread featuring "too late for the party syndrome"
bob    +-> Foo
fred     +->
alice      +->
bill       +->
bob          +->
george         +->
bill             +->
bill         +->
nancy    +->
fred       +->
bill         +->
bill       +->
bill     +->
This is a perfect time to er, threadkill bill. Or if feeling generous, read the second or third of his many replies to see what's got him so worked up. To see more sophisticated patterns, you need to categorise participants of the mailing list. A few people almost always manage to turn even a useless thread into something interesting, or have viewpoints that are good foils for your own. Learn to recognise the names of these interesting posters without thinking about it (I'll name them in uppercase below). Similarly, some people never contribute anything useful, and can be filed under the label of k00k. If there are more k00ks than interesting posters it's probably time to leave the list. Most people won't fit in either category. Some people change category depending on the subject. Here's the same potentially worthwhile thread as before, but now the people matter.
bob    +-> Foo
fred     +->
k00k       +->
bob          +->
george         +->
bob              +->
NANCY    +->
fred       +->
Suddenly, three messages of the thread become worth reading, and the larger k00k-tainted subthread's likelyhood of being valuable drops substantially. Similarly, this thread can be ignored.
k00k   +-> Foo
bob      +->
fred       +->
k00k         +->
alice  +->
k00k     +->
And this thread has a high potential for being interesting.
bob    +-> Foo
fred     +->
bob        +->
NORRIS       +->
george         +->
bob              +->
NANCY    +->
fred       +->
This thread, a variation of "take it to private email", increases bob's chances of being a k00k. Or he's really right and everyone else is wrong.
alice  +-> Foo
fred     +->
bob        +->
nancy        +->
bob            +->
alice            +->
bob                +->
fred                 +->
bob                    +->
fred                     +->
bob                        +->
This thread is a hard case to call, it depends on how good the interesting poster is in deflecting k00kitude. There could be as many as three worthwhile messages in here; I'll flag them.
  k00k   +-> Foo
  bob      +->
* NANCY      +->
  k00k         +->
* bob          +->
* NANCY          +->
It might be worth reading the interesting poster here, but probably only for a laugh, and it's just as likely that they've been cruelly trolled into answering, especially if an instance of the "blindingly obvious answer" pattern is grafted onto one of the subthreads.
k00k   +-> Foo
NORRIS   +->
k00k       +->
NORRIS       +->
So far the Subject has been ignored, and generally it's more important to look at the thread structure than the subject, but there are useful exceptions. It might be worth checking out the differently named subthread here, on the other hand its close proximity to the k00k likely means its a useless tangent.
bob    +-> Foo
fred     +->
k00k       +->
bob          +->
george         +-> Bar (was: Foo)
bob              +->
fred               +->
fred           +->
tony     +->
fred       +->
Here is not just one thread, but a collection of threads. This pattern, typically associated with a much larger thread than shown here, is a sure sign that a thread has gone pear-shaped and unless the followup thread has a lot of interesting posters in it, there's not much hope for the lot. (k00ks also spawn disconnected threadlets; such threadlets should be ignored.)
 k00k   +-> Foo
 bob      +->
 NANCY      +->
 k00k         +->
 bob          +->
 NANCY          +->
 bob    +-> About foo..
 tony     +->
 k00k       +->
 alice  +-> That foo thing
That's enough patterns to get started with, but they really come into their own when picked out of larger threads in an overloy long ongoing discussion. A few examples can be found in this segment of 23 lines of a much longer thread.
bob                                                       
k00k                                                      
tony                                                      
k00k                                                      
tony                                                      
k00k                                                    +-
bob                                                  
k00k                                                +-> Bar
john                                    +-> Bar
nick                                  +-> Bar
barney                                  +->
nick                                      +->
nancy                                       +->
NORRIS                                        +->
nancy                                           +->
SAM                                           +->
nick                                            +->
NORRIS                                            +->
oliver                                          +->
john                                    +->
frank                                     +->
john                                        +->
tom                                           +-> Mumble
bob                                             +->
Part of this thread is useless by two criteria; it has far too much k00k in it, and it's nested so deep that mutt doesn't bother to try to draw the thread indicators. The next bit though shows some signs of being interesting despite its fairly deep nesting. And the tangent might be worth keeping an eye on. Those are the thread patterns that I know I know. I suspect there are many others that I also know, since I can typically read mail with the d key as fast as mutt will scroll, stop at the interesting spots, and not miss much. If you know of other patterns, send them my way. Finally, even if you prefer to read every post, please do us all a favour, imagine your reply is already in the thread structure, and look for patterns like "take it to private email", "blindingly obvious answer", "too late for the party syndrome", and k00k influenced posts.

26 October 2005

Paul van Tilburg: Internship

I have fixed my Hobix setup, so I can write again. There was some problem/incompatibility with the new Ruby 1.8.3 in sid concerning the YAML implementation. A lot has happened in the past 7 weeks so I don’t know really where to start. I think I’ll start with the current hot item in my life: the internship that I am arranging. I’m planning to visit Scotland, Edinburgh in particular. There, at the Heriot-Watt University I will work on MathLang under the supervision of Fairouz Kamareddine (in Scotland) and Rob Nederpelt (here at the TU/e). MathLang is a mathematical language that will provide support for checking well-formedness and allow for better formalisation while also being usable in the digital world. What my exact assignment will be, I do not know yet, I will hear the specifics soon. For now I know that it has something to do with LaTeX, TeXmacs and Guile GNOME implementation-wise. I really am excited about going there for three months already, but there is still a lot of stuff to arrange, both financially and formally. I received an extra scholarship today from a faculty institute which helps a lot in the financial department. Now, if I could just have all the form stuff done, I am ready for the local long-term holiday arranging kinda stuff :). Stay tuned…

Joachim Breitner: Evil Self-Irony

Regular readers might remember me ranting about how evil google is. It seems that they are not only evil, but also very self-ironic. Check out their newest product, conquering yet another product field:

My favourite quotes are

No personally identifiable information of any kind related to your consumption of Google Gulp or any other current or future Google Foods product will ever be given, sold, bartered, auctioned off, tossed into a late-night poker pot, or otherwise transferred in any way to any untrustworthy third party, ever, we swear. See our Privacy Policy.
and
This “limited release” beta product is available to anyone who turns in a used Google Gulp bottle cap at any local retailer. If you don’t have any Gulp caps, ask a friend to give you one.
I’m looking forward to all my mailing lists being spammed with “I have Gulp caps to give away”!

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