Erich Schubert: Google Hangouts drops XMPP support
Update: today I've been receiving XMPP messages in the Google+
variant of Hangouts. Looks as if it currently is back (at least while you
are logged in via XMPP - havn't tried without pidgin at the same time yet).
Let's just hope that XMPP federation will continue to be supported on the
long run.
It's been all over the internet, so you probably heard it already:
Google Hangouts no longer receives messages from XMPP users. Before, you
could easily chat with "federated" users from other Jabber servers.
While of course the various open-source people are not amused -- for me,
most of my contacts disappeared, so I then uninstalled Hangouts
to get back Google Talk (apparently this works if Talk was preinstalled in
your phones firmware) -- this bears some larger risks for Google:
- Reputation: Google used to have the reputation of being open. XMPP support was open, the current "Hangups" protocol is not. This continuing trend of abandoning open standards and moving to "walled garden" solutions will likely harm the companies reputation in the open source community
- Legal risk of an antitrust action: Before, other competitors could interface with Google using an indepentend and widely accepted standard. An example is United Internet in Germany, which operates for example the Web.de and GMX platforms, mail.com, the 1&1 internet provider. By effectively locking out its competitors - without an obvious technical reason, as XMPP was working fine just before, and apparently continues to be used at Google for example in AppEngine - bears a high risk of running into an antitrust action in Europe. If I were 1&1, I would try to get my lawyers started... or if I were Microsoft, who apparently just wanted to add XMPP messaging to Hotmail?
- Users: Google+ is not that big yet. Especially in Germany. Since 90% of my contacts were XMPP contacts, where am I likely going to move to: Hangouts or another XMPP server? Or back to Skype? I still use Skype for more Voice calls than Google (which I used like twice), because there are some people that prefer Skype. One of these calls probably was not using the Google plugin, but an open source phone. Because with XMPP and Jingle, my regular chat client would interoperate. An in fact, the reason I started using Google Talk the first place was because it would interoperate with other networks, too, and I assumed they would be good at operating a Jabber server.
In my opinion, Google needs to quickly restore a functioning XMPP
bridge. It is okay if they offer add-on functionality only for
Hangout users (XMPP was always designed to allow for add-on functionality); it
is also okay if they propose an entirely new open protocol to migrate
to on the long run, if they can show good reasons such as scalability issues.
But the way they approached the Hangup rollout looks like a big #fail to me.
Oh, and there are other issues, too. For example
Linus
Torvalds complains about the fonts being screwed up (not hinted properly) in
the new Google+, others complain about broken presence indicators
(but then you might as well just send an email, if you can't tell whether the
recepient will be able to receive and answer right away), but using Hangouts
will apparently also (for now -- rumor has it that Voice will also be replaced
by Hangups entirely) lose you
Google Voice support.
The only thing that seems to give positive press are the easter eggs...
All in all, I'm not surprised to see over 20% of users giving the lowest
rating in the Google Play Store, and less than 45% giving the highest rating
- for a Google product, this must be really low.
After arriving yesterday, and doing the obligatory jetlagged wander around

This was a good year for plums in the garden, both for the yellow plums and
for the Italian prunes - enough so that it took some doing to figure out what
to do with them all. Since I'm not in a hurry to set up a still and make
slivovic, and you can only pawn so many plums off on friends and neighbors,
I had on the order of 15 pounds of Italian prunes to dispense with.
With our change of diet to eliminate extra carbs, Patty and I have both been
experimenting with reduced-carb desserts in the kitchen. And I've always
been fond of central European (e.g., German) desserts, which tend to be
sweetened much more lightly than American equivalents. Indeed, my earliest
impression of "coffee cake" comes from the home of an elderly couple who
were friends of the family, who served a delicious plum cake in their home.
She was from Bavaria, so I guess she probably wouldn't have called it
Zwetchgendatschi like the Austrians do (if they even really call it that; I
have my suspicions that this is a made-up name designed to poke fun at the
foreigners). Maybe she would have called it Pflaumenkuchen. The Internet
calls it
Last year,
So, it's now over.
After two weeks of DebCamp+DebConf, followed by two weeks touring over
to the best places in Nicaragua with my beloved Elisabeth (our first
long holidays as a couple without children since....1987!), my
best holidays EVER are over.
I visited a wonderful country. I met wonderful people. And I have to
come back as I left un unachieved volcano climb (some could think I
did that on purpose just to have an excuse for coming back)...:-)
I'll probably try to blog about all this in a soon-to-come very long
bubullish post (IOW: full of typos and Frenglish) for those of you who
aren't tired of these.
Now, doh, I have two gardens to clean out before resuming work in less
than two weeks.
Many community driven projects have a problem with overgrown
bureaucratic processes reducing the desire and ability of casual
contributors to contribute. Debian has struggled with this problem,
with efforts like Debian Maintainers and sponsorship to address it,
but it's insidious and difficult to completely overcome. I recently
ran into this problem again with Wikipedia, where I'm a casual
contributor (I probably average an edit a month).
I moved 

